Episode Transcript
[00:00:10] Speaker A: All right, everybody, welcome back to the good old Hockey podcast. We're here. We're honestly kind of throwing mean galley off a little bit. We're here on a Wednesday night recording. Other than that, in a while, but in the spirit of playoffs and all the craziness that's been going on, uh, we wanted to keep the content fresh for you guys. So wanted to wait after Tuesday. Uh, hopefully this would be a more celebration episode than anything, but it's not. And we're here. But we'll get into that. And then we got some trade, trade news today, which is also pretty cool.
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[00:02:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Honestly, that's what they want. That's what they wanted. They got it.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: But probably will go to seven.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. For real. But before we get into the Stanley cup galley, how was your weekend?
[00:02:14] Speaker B: Weekend was pretty good.
I know we. We went hard in the paint the weekend before, so didn't go downtown. I strayed away from downtown. I spent way too much that weekend before, but yeah, Friday night I didn't do too much. Just chilled girlfriend. And then Saturday, went to a barbecue, had a great time, tossed some bags, played some pongs, ended up at Jim's alibi, how to do some karaoke, some sun higher by Creed.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: Had to.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: I didn't had have to, but I wanted to. But it was a choice. But kind of had to for myself, maybe.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Kick ass. There's a video of it out there, but yeah, Jim's Alibaba was a good time. And then, honestly, underrated bar and Boise, I will give that to them. I had. I always drive by it. I've drove by it a million times, and I've been in there once or twice, but it was probably pretty drunk in college at some point. But yeah, just went in, went in there on Saturday night with the boys and we let loose, man. It's a good time. And they have a nice outdoor area, too, so I'll give that to them. Shout out Jim's alibi for a good time. Good karaoke time.
Sunday. I don't even remember what I didn't do too much, but how was your weekend?
[00:03:32] Speaker A: It was good. Friday, went to a Boise Hawks game, which was fun.
Yeah, those times are always fun. If you guys didn't see it. Cody went kind of viral on Instagram with his I can throw 70. Didn't throw 70. But the things off. So we're going to be testing it soon. For real this time. But yeah, that was fun on Friday and then Saturday, my dad's birthday. So I went up and they have a car show in his, what's called his little neighborhood, I guess you could say, where they live.
So that's the car show. And then Saturday was Father's day, so I went to Topgolf. And then also, well, after that, oh, then we just had dinner with the family. So pretty chill weekend. Nothing crazy, but watched a lot of hockey these past couple days and.
Yeah.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Speaking of Boise Hawks, we're gonna, sometime in the future, probably early July, we're going to be doing a 999. For those who don't know that, it's nine beers, nine hot dogs, and nine endings. And we're going to. We're going to live stream it and have a good time. So I'm excited for that. That's down the road, though.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that's going to be fun. After all the craziness of the off season and everything is kind of settled. All the dust is settled. We're going to get together and do a 999 challenge, which I'm extremely scared for. I don't know if anyone has done it, whoever's watching, but I don't know what to expect. I'm honestly really scared. So we'll see but do you have anything else to add before we get into this cup final?
[00:05:02] Speaker B: No, I'm excited for that challenge, but, yeah, that's after the draft. That's after the Stanley Cups been raised by who knows who, but can get into that. Games four and five happen. Panthers didn't look as good, but you, if you want to get into that.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think. Well, the last time we talked was after games one and two, game three, Florida looked great, but, you know, that's way in the past now. And games four and five. I don't know what's happened. I really don't like, I don't know. I don't know if Zucchini still watching and I think he's very an optimistic fan. I'm kind of a pessimist and I, I get scared. I see stuff like this happen. I see Connor McDavid do what he does and I get scared because I do. I have 80, $80 potentially on this series.
And I was so confident after game three. I was like, nice. Fucking hit a future bet on the Staley cup winner.
And now I'm in paranoia because I don't know. I really don't. I just thought this game five, like, we watched game five at end zone, and I think by the time we got there, Panthers had starting to. They woke up a bit, but before that, I thought they looked like they just didn't want to win. I don't know. What did you think?
[00:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. Games four or game four at least. I think it's obviously down zero three to the Panthers at Whalersburg. So I think they just put it all, put it all on the ice for a better team. I don't think the Panthers really showed up too, too much. I know a lot of people are like, oh, they want to win it in Florida. Well, game five came around and they look flat, at least at the beginning of the game. Yeah, I think they turned it up a little bit more, especially in the second period.
It was pretty sweet to see them almost tied up going into the third, but then, yeah, third was just tough, man. I can't believe, like, Edmonton shut them down that hard. And then Kachuk's freaking empty net, save for nothing. I feel like they were going to score.
I was, I was optimistic about it. I thought game five had, was a lot better for the Panthers, but, yeah, the Edmonton Oilers look like a different team right now. I know I was seeing a lot of statistics and posts from, from ESPN and all over the place about, you know, when the Oilers. Oilers lose three games in a row. They do really good after, so fingers crossed that doesn't happen, especially from myself as a Flames fan, I'm I'm going to be so sadly cup, but yeah, good. But yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's going to be a really good game six. I don't think that. I feel like a lot of people are like, oh, the Oilers are at home. But, I mean, we saw game three that the Panthers can definitely win in Edmonton. So I think game six is going to be really, really good.
But if not, if they do end up losing, I still think game seven is anyone's. But I don't know if my heart can take that for, for my nerves.
[00:08:01] Speaker A: To be honest, that, too. Like, I get, you know, game four, I understood. It's like, it's incredibly hard to sweep a team in the finals. I get that it's incredibly tough to sweep a team in the playoffs, let alone the finals. So I get it right. Game four, they're probably exhausted. They want to win that cup, and they got caught flat footed. But game five, to come out like they did, and I don't know that Edmonton did, did not look dominant this, like, this entire series at all. Like, you know, I think game one, they had a couple games here and there. I think it's been a good series so far, but I just, I don't know that you can say that the Oilers have been great because at least before these past two games, don't take this out of context. I might clip this, but it might get taken out of context. But adding context before these past two games, they have looked dominant. In game four and game five, they looked like they were the better team, but Florida, I don't know what happened. I don't know if it's just the the excitement, because they're like, oh, my God, like, we were one win away. We're so close, and it's like, oh, if they win this game, is it, like, doesn't matter? But I don't know, man. Like, I don't think you give this Oilers team a chance, and they already kind of have given them a chance to come back and make history because I don't know that, what, 1942 was the last time this happened when a team.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: And that was like, I love hockey, but that was a long time ago, and I'm not going to count that as a thing in the modern era. Like, that's never happened, so.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: And not only that, I feel like game four was tough, especially for Bobrovsky. I mean, getting scored eight goals, right? I think it was eight goals.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: Damn, man. Like, that's. That's a tough blow he had. He's been having a great playoff so far.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: Great series so far. Uh, so I feel like that was tough, and, I mean, last night let in four goals, plus the empty nets of five goals. Um, so he's going to need a rebound or else the Panthers are kind of in some deep water right now, and. Yeah, like you said, they gave him a chance, and I hope the oilers don't capitalize on it. Um, I am pretty worried, though, because McDavid showed that he is on another level than maybe any other player has ever played in this league. Um, but, yeah, man, I feel like game six is going to be tight. I'd smash that under on that. Um, because it's going to be.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: It's going to. It's going to be a dogfight for sure, but we'll, we'll see. I'm I'm really unsure how the series is going to go because Edmonton does have the momentum right now, but the Panthers just need one game. They just need one game. So two more games to go. Uh, game seven is going to be freaking June 24, which is four days before the drill.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: We leave three days after the cup is raised if it goes to game seven.
Just crazy.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: We're gonna have. We're gonna have to be doing some scrambling, if that's the case. But also, I know we brought this up in the past, especially about this series, dude, it's, like, such a long series, and it's probably because of the travel, but, I mean, for a game to be played on Tuesday night and then given all the way to Friday night, I mean, damn, it's, it's probably nice for the players. They're probably getting some good rest, but also, it's got to be some weird nerves on top of, like, the fans, fans, all these fan bases and hockey fans are just kind of on edge waiting for this result to happen, seeing what's going to happen. Game six. And also, I mean, from, from last night until game six, there's going to be a ridiculous amount of dick riding for, for the Oilers and, and David, I mean, I'm, I'm already getting annoyed by his playoffs, but to be fair, McDavid's really good, so. But as a flame, saying, it's annoying always.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: It is. And it's like, I want to take my Panthers hat off for a second and, like, look at this on the outside and not hate on the Oilers.
And in all honesty, like, we're witnessing greatness before our eyes, and everyone always hates on greatness, and I get it. And guess what? I'm hating on McDavid because he's pissing me off. I want this series to be over. I want four to have that cup over their head already. And I want my $80. I want my wallet to be dollar 80 a little bit more when we go to Vegas. So I would love for the series to be over on Friday, but I just don't know. Like, in Edmonton and giving this team the juice and the energy to be coming back. Stuart Skinner somehow is just now.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: I know.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: And, you know, I mean, he only, what? He let in two goals or three goals last night, and, you know, a lot of those goals from the Panthers were good shots, good goals. I wouldn't really fault him.
Bobrovsky looked like swiss cheese in game four, so I don't know. But let's talk about Connor McDavid for a second, because this guy is on another level. He passed Gretzky for all time playoff assists ever. Gretzky had 31. I believe McDavid now has 34, 35. I don't know. Exactly. Sorry.
But regardless, he passed Gretzky, which was a record that I don't think anyone thought was ever going to happen. Steve, what's up, man?
I don't think that was a record that we saw was ever going to be broken. And now this man is five points away from tying Wayne Gretzky's record of all time most points in a playoff, which is 47. Dave's got 42 points.
[00:13:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he's. He's got the most for any active player, too.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: Yes, he does. He's.
Yeah.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Even freaking Crosby and Malkin.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: Yep. He passed Malkins.
Game five, I think, or game four. Sorry.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: That is ridiculous. And that's crazy that he's five points away from. From just tying Wayne Gretzky's postseason points record.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: I mean, seven and he's.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah, like, he's. He's probably going to do it if it goes to seven. I would. I would be kind of shocked if he does at least tie it in game six. That would have to be a pretty crazy game, which isn't out of the cards, but, yeah, man, I feel like McDavid. I feel like he's a lock for the con smite no matter who wins, which is kind of. It's kind of crazy because, I mean, there's been a lot of good players on both of these teams especially. I mean, I feel like if you're going to give it to anyone except for McDavid and say the Panthers win, it's going to give it.
But Broski, even then, such a good. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, I think he's a lock for the cons. Might. I think this is one of the best playoff performances we've ever seen. Yeah, but he's gonna have to win it. I think he's gonna have to win it to really show his dominance and for it to go down as the best one, because if it doesn't. Yeah, I mean, there's, there's a lot of other great performances, at least by goalies, points wise. I don't know. Probably. Probably not.
But, yeah, man. I mean, Gretzky or, pardon me, McDavid is looking like MC Jesus out there.
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: Back to back four point games is crazy. Like, what?
[00:15:31] Speaker A: I'm also curious. Like, I mean, this may get some backlash, but if he was on a more complete team, like, I know Edmonton's playing great right now. They've, you know, turned it around since December, but, like, on paper, if he was on a team that had just a little bit more depth, not a whole lot. They have some good players and, you know, dry cyttle, even though he's been kind of quiet, nudge Evan Bouchard like, they have a solid team. They just. If he was on, like, a star studded roster, I'm curious what that team would do.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: I don't think the Oilers are there yet. I think they could be, but we've clearly seen that this is, this is his Stanley Cup.
I know it's a team sport, but this, if they win, this is McDavid Stanley cup. Um, and this isn't to badmouth the rest of the Oilers. It's not like their ass or anything. Like, they've played great. They've played what they needed to do to enhance him. But let's be honest. This is his cup.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: If they win, dude, he's been involved in 52.5% of all the Oilers goals in the playoffs this year. Yeah. I mean, has had a point and we haven't. I mean, who knows what the stats are like when he's on the ice. It's probably, like, 60 or 70% of the like. This guy is. He's a legend. I mean, as much as I dislike the Oilers, and I dislike McDavid Bean on the Oilers, gotta give respect where it's, you know, due. And, yeah, man. I mean, McDavid is. He's on another level. I think he's cemented himself as, you know, the next one. Like, he is the best player in the league right now.
I mean, you could argue he's, he's better than, you know, Gretzky and play wise, but, I mean, that's a whole nother conversation we could talk about. But, I mean, yeah, man, this guy is on another level. His speed, his stick handling, his hockey iq is shot. I mean, he's incredible. So, yeah, man, I know we were.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: If Corey Perry's scoring, you know, that this guy's next level.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Hey, I mean, Corey Perry's not bad, but he is.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: Yeah. 39 year old Corey Perry is scoring because of Mc. Like, even that, that play that I'm talking about specifically, like, no serious, no hate to Corey Perry, but, like, I mean, all four pan four Panthers were on McDavid, locked eyes on him, and we're like, we're going to shut him down. He gets through every single one of them. And Perry's backdoor and credit to him for being able to keep up with McDavid, but Perry's then right there, backdoor, ready for the past, for McDavid, and, you know, props to both of them, but just an insane play, and it's, it's, it's one of those things where you just have to, you have to put your, your hat down. As a dude who has his money on the Panthers, like, I feel like this is how I feel when I was watching the warriors play LeBron James, and he came back on that three one. It's just like, it's so frustrating. You're like, all you need is one guys, and this other dude who's from another planet is just carrying his team with him, you know? And I want to, I want to make sure that people know that it's not that the Oilers are bad and he's the only good player. Like, it's their solid team, but this guy is carrying them.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: And then I feel like if the Panthers end up winning this series, that's going to be, I mean, honestly regarded as an upset, in my opinion. I mean, just how strong the Oilers have been in the playoffs. I think they kind of lack the goaltending, but offensive power and, like, offensive wise, this team is insane. We, I don't think we, I have ever seen a team that I've been alive for in the playoffs that scores this much, can swing a game completely around just by their own series. So, I mean, I feel like in the NHL playoffs, there's a lot, it's a lot about defense, it's a lot about goaltending. There's really low scoring games compared to the regular season, but this, this team is just doesn't give a fuck about that. I mean, they, they are all gas, no breaks. So, I mean, it's going to be really impressive that Florida is able to cap this off just because, I mean, they have the best player in the world doing the best player in the world things right now for them right now. So, yeah, man, it's, it's, it's going to be crazy. I'm excited for game six. It sucks we have to wait so long.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: But that's the thing for me. Like, last point is just the anticipation and, like, maybe it's getting to the players, too. I'm sure it is. And the travel. The travel, I know for a fact, is getting to these players. They're exhausted. We don't even know the injury reports yet. Like, who knows what the Panthers are dealing with, what the Oilers are doing. Conor McDavid could have a broken hand for all we know, and he's doing what he's doing. We don't even know. But yes, Steve, reverse sweep would definitely blow my mind as well if this does happen, because just crazy. But to wait until Friday for this game, like, oh, my God, it's just, it's, it's painful, but I'm excited. Friday will be a fun night to watch the game. You know, it's a weekend, and when the Panthers win in six, it'll be fun for them. Not in Edmonton, though, honestly, if the Panthers want a game plan, here's, here's what I suggest to them. Once you guys win in game six on Friday, you get on, on a direct flight right away, take the PJ all the way to Vegas and go party there. Rub it in their face. Rub it in their face from last year. Go to Vegas, Edmonton. You're not going to really do much out on the town. Sorry, Edmonton, but you're not. Go to Vegas. Go rub it in all those guys face that, you know, you lost to last year and go have the time of your life because you don't know how many cups you're going to win. So. But with that, do you have any other.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: I'm worried for that flight. Yeah. Last thing I wanted to say is whoever wins a cup, I'm worried for the flight back, honestly, because I don't think, I don't think either of these teams are going to celebrate in an opposing city.
But if it does end up happening in Florida, I mean, obviously that's going to be a tough fight for the Oilers, but either way, I mean, going back to Edmonton or going back to Florida after winning, these players are going to be drinking. They're going to be on a plane for seven plus hours at least. So, I mean, yeah, I'm worried for, yeah, hopefully there's going to be some, but, I mean, who's going to be the person that's like, hey, stop drinking like, we're on a flight, you might die. I don't think it's going to happen, but, no, I am worried for that. I was thinking about that the other day, like, holy shit, someone's going to have to step in for, for some, some management, these players, when they're on their flight after. I think that couple in, if it happens.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Honestly, like, I think Florida would go back, like, yeah, like you said, I think both teams would go back to their respective city, but even then, it's a six hour flight. Like, they get done. These games are done. If they're in Edmonton on Friday, game has been finished around, like, 09:00 p.m. our time in mountain time. So if they're up in Edmonton, it's 09:00 p.m. they're finished. They got to take a six hour flight back to Florida to celebrate if they win.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: And Stanley cup celebrations are, they're hard. I mean, they're the best in all sports. I mean, players drink a lot and there's party and, like, no other, like, any other championship. So, um, yeah, it's going to be, gonna be crazy. I'm I'm excited for this, for this finish. It's tough. It's happening almost in July, but for real. Yeah, man, let's let's definitely move on, though.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:55] Speaker B: I'm down to talk about these trades and this team right here, even though they aren't going to make the playoffs in the next win.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's kick it off with that then. Um, go ahead. You got the floor. Markstrom gets traded to New Jersey Devils. What were your initial thoughts when you saw that pop up on your screen?
[00:23:13] Speaker B: So when I saw, it was this morning, I saw that Markstrom is going to New Jersey, and I was, I was shocked in a way that it was happening right now. And one, too. Today is a really weird day to have all these trades. Not going to lie. I mean, there's, there's some pretty big trades that are happening today. So a little mini trade deadline on June 19. But, yeah, man, I mean, my initial thoughts were like, okay, we're going to get a good haul. Like, I just know that there were some rumors going around this past trade deadline that Mark Sherman was going to get shipped for a first and Alexander Holtz, who's freaking stud of a prospect.
But when I saw that haul back, I mean, I'm glad we got a first round pick that's really good. But getting Kevin ball, I mean, I'm not the biggest on him necessarily. I feel like Markstrom is a very good player, but the more I, I let it digest today, I still think this is a pretty good haul for Calgary for a 34 year old. I mean, Kevin Ball is a six foot six left handed defenseman. I mean, he's only 23 years old, too.
I think he's got a lot of room to grow. But if he can turn into like a top four defenseman, stay at home defenseman, that's big and, you know, hard to get shots past. I think this is going to be a win for Calgary, but there's a lot of to be determined. I mean, Jacob Markstrom could really be the key to success for New Jersey because we talked about it all the season, like, they lack their goaltending. They have really good defense, they have really good offense, but then their goaltending is just not there. I mean, iffy on defense, I'll give him that. But it's going to be interesting.
I will say with this, a lot of people are coming at Craig Conroy, the GM of the flames, saying, what? Like, what is this, hall and all that? But we'll say Markstrom kind of holds the cards. He has a no no trade clause, so for him to waive that for New Jersey, I think that's, that's okay. And then also, I mean, the one thing about it, though, is I don't think he's going to, he's going to go to Ottawa. There was a lot of talk about him going to Ottawa. Um, I didn't ever see that panning out, but I'm glad that we were able to get this much for him just because goalies don't get a lot in the market right now. But I don't know, what's your, what's your thoughts on this trade?
[00:25:34] Speaker A: I mean, I think as tough as it is, like you said, as a flames fan, to see what you're getting back, I think realistically, like, you know, I think for the long term, I don't see Markstrom helping them in the next two, three years. So I think getting some return out of it while he's still valuable is worth every penny. And, you know, a first round pick is a first round pick.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: You don't know what that guy's going to turn out to be. And also getting a prospect like Kevin Ball, I don't know how your guys's farm system is, like, how deep you guys are in the defenseman category, but someone like that, I mean, when you wrote that down here, you said six first round draft picks in the next three years is awesome.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And that's really good for the, for, for the rebuild for Calgary. So, I mean, all in all, I became a fan of this trade throughout the day. I thought we were going to get a bigger haul, but now that I step back and look at it, maybe if you do this a couple years ago or maybe last year, they're going to get a lot more for Markstrom. But, yeah, for what, how old he is? And, and also, he kind of had, I mean, he had a good year last year. I mean, it's hard to say because he was on the flames, wasn't that good of a team, but, I mean, this guy's a Vesna candidate or Vesna finalist, I want to say two years ago. So this is going to be a good addition for New Jersey. I think that they, for right now, they won this trade, and I think I could say that about the, to Foley trade with a Sharon Govich last year, too. But I think that next year is going to see, I mean, if, if the devils don't do shit and their goal tending shit and Markstrom shit, this is a bad trade. I mean, they gave up a first, they gave up a good defensive prospect, but it could totally flop the other way. But I will say, like I said, I mean, Sharon Govich and to fully trade happen and everyone said New Jersey won that.
I feel like right now people are kind of weary of that, saying that New Jersey won this one, um, because of that. So I'm kind of wary of it. I'd give it an a grade for New Jersey, and then I'd probably say a b minus for Calgary. Um, just because I think they could have got, they could have squeezed out a little bit more, um, out of New Jersey. Maybe another prospect, maybe another draft pick. Um, but, yeah, man, Jacob Marshall, he was a, he was a good goalie for the, for the flames for a while, and it's sad he's leaving. I know he was a great goalie. I mean, he was, he was there for, I want to say, four or five years. So hats off to Markstrom.
Sad that he left, but I don't know what. Would you grade this trade?
[00:28:20] Speaker A: I'd bump up Calgary's grade a little bit higher. B to b plus. I think. I think it is like you said, I mean, Markham, you probably could have got it in a better hall, but at the same time, you know, he's 34 and. Yeah, realistically for your guys's future as the Calgary flames, you know, I think it's in this retooling rebuilding stages. I don't think it's a full rebuild, but it's a little bit of a retool thing.
So, you know, I'd give it an a definitely for the devils. I think it works for them perfectly.
But I think, yeah, the flames maybe could have gotten a little bit better, but sometimes you gotta, you gotta take what you, what you can get at this point in the rebuild, so. But before we move on, I want to answer this question from Steve. He brings up a great point. If Bob gets a shutout in game six, does he get the cons? My.
I think.
I think it's a good question. I think it's fair to say that he could with a shutout because of the situation, but it's also tough with games four and five, how he performed. What do you think?
[00:29:26] Speaker B: I still think that it's going to go to McDavid. I would be shocked if they shut out the Oilers at home, too.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: If he does, I think it's going to. I think it's going to go to. Yeah, I think it's going to go to McDavid regardless.
I don't know. That's a tough question.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to say it's going.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: To go to McDavid just because I think he's had one of the best playoff performances we've ever seen in the league history, but in today's era, by far the best. And it doesn't matter if he wins win or lose the Stanley Cup. I mean, this is going to go down in history is one of the best, and who knows? Maybe there's going to be another year he's in the playoffs where he goes pretty hard again, too. But, yeah, I don't really see Bobrosky taking it, though, regardless, just because how dominant McDavid's been. I mean, he's been. It's. It's been his playoffs for the Wheelers. I mean, he's been the sole reason. I don't really see this team making it past the Canucks without, without McDavid.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: I agree. It's a great question. Who was the last? Was it John Sebastian Shiger to win the last consmyth, even though he didn't win the cup?
[00:30:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Because that was in back in, like, 2003, I want to say.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: So, yeah, that was a good cup run. That was when the Devils won, right?
[00:30:43] Speaker B: Yes. I think he was on the Ducks.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: Makes sense. I think it's tough to leave off McDavid, but, yeah. Thanks for the question, Steve. That's a great question. Um, but next, next news for the Sharks. We've got a returner. We've got Barkley goodrill coming back to San Jose.
He won two cups with the Lightning and then had a, I think he had a pretty good playoff for the Rangers, especially in the third round. He had some great, clutch overtime goals, a lot like he did with the Sharks against the Golden Knights. That one year. That great year. The last year we made the playoffs. So it's good to have him back.
He's 31. His average salary per year is 3.6 mil. So I think for the Sharks, it's a little bit of a.
I think they're under the cap floor right now. I know the cap just raised for this upcoming year, but, um, they need to. They need to add some money to bump that up a bit. Um, so I don't think it's a bad ad at all. He's a great player, uh, for him, though.
He's in the middle of, like, he's going to be helping out a rebuilding team. Um, so we'll see if, you know, he gets. If he's happy here. I mean, he's got three years left. He also has a no move clause, so we can't really, um, we. If we wanted to trade him at the deadline to get some stuff out of it, he'd have to agree to it. So it's kind of tough, um, on that part, but nonetheless, like, it's a good, solid player to have on your team in a rebuilding years.
Um, and he's won his cups, too. He's one, two Stanley Cups. And if you're going to go back to the team that, you know, he, they. We signed him, the shark signed him in 2014 through free agency. Like, he wasn't even drafted. I think he was an undrafted free agent. So great player. He's had a great career so far. So, you know, to help us out a little bit.
We'll see how that turns out. But what are your thoughts on that?
[00:32:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like, at least on the good row, trade or the pickup. Sorry. From the waivers the other thing. The Rangers probably could have got something for him, could have figured out something because, like you said, he has three years left on his deal. Um, but I think this is steal for. For the sharks. Um, having someone that's familiar with the organization, um, lots of young players around him. I think it's going to be a good player, um, for them to have on their. Their depth chart next year. Um, but I think, I mean, that's a, that's a big pickup. But I think the even bigger pickup they had today was tied to Landria. Um, he was traded to the sharks for a fourth round pick. Fourth round. This guy scored 28 points last year, and he's 23 years old. This guy has a lot of growing still. So I feel like this is a humongous pickup for sharks. Um, he's probably going to be playing alongside, uh, you know, who knows? I mean, he could be a second or third line person or guy next year. And I mean, last year on the chart or on the stars, he was, you know, scraping bottom six minutes. So, yeah, I think this is a big, big pickup for dill Andrea or big, big move for Dilandria, but even a bigger pickup for San Jose. So, I mean, for this, for this trade, I'm going to give it like a freaking a for the sharks and, and, like, honestly, like a c for the stars. I think this was a bad, bad thing for the stars, but I don't know. What's your, what's your thoughts on.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: Else about good row or Dwayne?
[00:34:21] Speaker A: I don't know what the star, like, there's got to be something there, I think, for good row. And the Rangers, I think they're trying to make cap space, and he's got a no move clause, so if they were trying to get anything out of him, he said no, and they were like, well, we got to put them on waivers, then we have no other choice because they're. I don't know. I haven't looked at cap friendly before it goes dark, but I'm sure there's some.
There's some moves that they need to make in order to have enough just cap space to sign someone. I don't know who that would be, but I thought it was a. It's just one of those things for the Rangers where it's like, well, we can. Couldn't do anything about it for dilandria and the stars. I don't know what the stars are thinking there.
I don't know if it's a cap thing or off ice issues. Who knows? I don't. I don't. I don't got the scoop on that. Sorry, guys. But, I mean, for the Sharks, I'm super excited.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: I mean, I think title Andrew is a young kid who, you know, we're in this phase where obviously we're still rebuilding and we've got people like Will Smith coming on, Macklin, celebrini hopefully coming on.
So it's not like we can really use that future fourth round pick. Like, why not flip that? Why not flip that for a player that can make an impact in the next couple of years or even next year, um, to make a, you know, he could be a second line, second line winger or something and help us out. So I think, regardless, I think it's a great trade for the Sharks on that one. I would give them an a for Delandria, for the stars. I just. I don't know. There's got to be something else there that, yeah. Read or they're trying to make space for a bigger move. So now I'm going to give him a c as well.
[00:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah. And he was a restricted free agent. So, I mean, now looking back on it, I mean, that fourth round pick is something, I guess.
But I do. I do feel like, I mean, they have a really deep prospect pool. The stars do right now.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Yeah, they do.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: I know stink. Stink oven is a right winger, too. But, I mean, I'm looking at it. I'm like, I'm just looking at their depth chart right now, and, like, the dawn of is a right winger that they could have maybe moved.
Sagan is a right winger, too, and he's getting older. So I don't know. I feel like it's a tough, tough move by the stars, but I think they could have got a lot more for Dill Andrea. And not only that, I mean, what pickup by San Jose?
[00:36:44] Speaker A: So, yeah, well, let's move on because this trade is also a just brain twister on this. Pierre Luc Dubois from LA goes to the Washington Capitals for Darcy Kemper. Pierre Luc Dubois last year was traded from the Jets.
Jets got Alex eye follow Kapari and Velardi and a second round pick. And Pierre Luc Dubois, nicknamed on la kings Twitter as Pierre Lucdonothing.
So, you know, I think he would kind of had to do a disappointing season for them.
Sorry, just, like, lost my voice there. But for the Kings to get a goalie in return, I mean, I think it's just one of those trades that you hoped would have worked out, but, you know, you get Darcy Kemper in return. I don't think it's a horrible ad, and I think the Kings are definitely lacking in the goalie department with what they have getting rid of Jonathan quick and his whole thing with the Rangers doing well, but I don't think it's a horrible trade either way, the Capitals are taking a bit of a risk with a dude who's making, I don't know exactly what he's making a year. I think it's close to seven or I know the number seven is in there, whether it's his years left or eight.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: Five.
[00:38:20] Speaker A: Eight mil for five years. And, yeah, I don't know if capitals, you just bought cap friendly for yourself and you make that kind of trade, you know what this like. Unless we're just trying to hide the fact like they're oh, my God. Yeah, that's crazy. But the Capitals trading for him and now they have cap friendly to themselves and they make that trade for the first move of the offseason. So kind of crazy on the Capitals part, but, you know, who knows if it'll turn out. Maybe they're just trying to get someone to beat over the puck to get them some goals next year. I don't know. I don't really know what their move was there. What do you think?
[00:39:03] Speaker B: I think that the Capital has won this trade for sure. I mean, Pierre Luc Dubois has definitely struggled, but he still has some potential to. Yeah, be a good player. I mean, he scored 60 points, I want to say, three times throughout his career.
Let me see that.
Three times.
Three times. So, I mean, I do feel like this is good for, for the Kings. I got Darcy Kemper. I mean, Kemper's approving NHL goalie, so they do have that, which they were lacking in big time this year.
But I mean, damn, man. I mean, it's crazy. Pierre Luc Dubois, or PLD is, a lot of people calling him, has bounced around three different teams in the past three years. So I think that he's going to be good on the Capitals. I think he's going to play in the top six and we'll see if he does something.
But I don't think the, the caps are giving away too much when they're giving away Kemper. I feel like he's kind of declining. But, I mean, for the, for the caps, I'm probably going to give it an a.
I don't know even about an a minus, probably.
[00:40:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: And then for, for the Kings, I'd probably give it like a c plus, b minus area.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I don't know, for the Capitals, I mean, it's all dependent for Pierre Luc Dubois on, like, how maybe he just didn't fit with the Kings well.
So it's really hard to say. We'll see how he does next year. But I'm going to give the Capitals a b on this just because we don't know how he's going to turn out.
And the Kings, like, I want to be harsh on them, but I mean, I feel like for Rob Blake, the GM, I feel like it's just kind of something he had to do.
You can't hold on to him for eight years and expect to get better. So it's one of those things where you kind of just got to make the move, make the trade, suck it up. It's a loss. You know, you took the l honestly, at that trade that you gave him away for, and then you took an l again for getting what you got for him in return. But I give. What did I give the Kings? I don't remember.
I'm going to give them a c plus, and capitals would be so sure. We'll see. But do you have anything else to add before we move on to our mock draft?
[00:41:22] Speaker B: He could be, he could be doing some stuff with Ov, for sure.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: He could.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: I know they're, they're kind of lacking that, that center depth after they got rid of Kuznetsov.
So I don't know. I think it's a good addition for the Capitals. It's kind of a risk, but especially because I've heard that this guy's not the best locker room player, which I don't know personally, but I've just seen all sorts of rumors.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: And whatnot about that. So it's a risk for the Capitals. Um, but for the, for the Kings, we'll see. It's also kind of a risk, but I feel like they, they're going to have a better goaltender next year, so that's a, that's a plus. But they did kind of give away a player that they just gave fucking three players around draft pick for. So I don't know. That's kind of an l for the Kings, in my opinion, because they, they literally just did that.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: So last year. Yeah, I know, but didn't work out for them. So it's all right. But we're going to move on to the mock draft last episode, if you didn't catch that, go listen to it, because we did picks one through ten, if you're interested. Now, we're going to do picks eleven through 20. Now, disclaimer here, picks one through ten obviously are a little bit more hyped up and we have more information on these players. So for us, this is in good fun and for what we know and what we can see on our side of things. But a lot of these players are up in the air and I think there's going to be a lot of movement here. It's not as clear cut as the top ten. So if we're completely wrong on this, who cares? And even first one through ten, the draft is incredibly hard to predict. You don't know what these guys are thinking, what these guys are doing. But with that galley kickoff, your pick, number eleven.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Yeah, and I mean, with that being said to, we're not the biggest analysts. We haven't been studying these players all season. I know there's some people out there that. That have been doing that and props to them. I wish I had that that time, but I don't watch, you know, amateur hockey team too much, um, or even overseas hockey. But yeah, I think with these eleven through 20, these could. I mean, there's a decent amount of information on these players just because a lot of these players could go in the first round. I feel like this draft in specific, this year is. Is so up in the air. I feel like there's not a solid top ten. I think there's a solid, like top five, probably, but outside of that, I mean, I think a lot of these players that could even be picked number 15 on our mock draft could go in the top ten. So that being said, number eleven pick goes to the Sabres and I think that they're going to select Carter. Yakim Chuck, he plays for the Calgary hitman. He's a right handed defenseman, got 30 goals and 41 assists and, I mean, that's pretty impressive.
I just feel like Buffalo would. Would jump the gun if he's available just because he's a good. I mean, he's a. I'd say he's a two way defender. He's tall. But not only that, I mean, I think that they're, they're kind of lacking the right handed defenseman outside of Owen Power. So I feel like this would be a pretty good ad for them. I feel like Yakim Chuck. I feel like I'm butchering. That name is probably a few years away from being in the NHL, but who do you got for number eleven?
[00:44:39] Speaker A: Number eleven for the Sabres, I've got Trevor Connelly. I know he's had a little bit of tips here and there with his off I stuff. And, you know, maybe the Sabres don't, don't need that. You know, they have not made the playoffs in God knows how long, but thank you, Steve. Yeah, that's all that, you know, I think for Buffalo, though, on the same point, I think they need to take some risks with some of these players. I mean, I think they have a good, solid foundation. I think that the Sabres, I think they have some depth in terms of defense when they've got Owen Power, they've got Rasmus Dalin.
And I don't think adding another one would be bad, but for their forwards future, I mean, they've got Tage Thompson, who's a absolute dog. They got Zach Benson, who's another dog. But Trevor Connelly, I feel like his left wing presence would. I think it helped them out a lot.
And again, this is based off what I'm seeing, what I'm reading. Does the Buffalo make the playoffs next year, Steve?
I'd like them to, but that Atlantic division is so tough and I just don't know if they're ready yet. I really don't.
[00:45:53] Speaker B: Buffalo. It's just Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo sports. I mean, I know the bills are doing pretty good as of recent, but yeah, I mean, I feel like the Sabres had a, had a glimpse at like, oh, this team might actually be good, but I could see them swinging around. I could see them being in like a wild card spot next year.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Yeah, they have to. I mean, who's it? Dylan Cousins. Who's their goalie?
[00:46:18] Speaker B: Dylan Cousins is their center.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: I think Levi, Devon, Levi. I always confuse them because they kind of look similar in a sense.
Yes. Him their goalie. I think, I don't know if he was a technical rookie, but I think it was his first, like full season playing and he had some good flashes and I think, you know, moving forward, I think he's going to have to grow into that spot. So I just, I just don't know if they're going to make the playoffs next year. It's, it's going to be tough for them. And especially with the Atlantic. You've got Toronto, you got Boston, you got Florida. Those three teams are probably going to make the playoffs again. And who's going to fill that wild card spot? I don't know. I don't know. You got Montreal. Who's going to be? I think they're going to be, hey, the cat.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: The Caps did make it this year, though, so I, true. I could see it being a thing. I can see it being a thing. I could see Buffalo having a good year next year.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: That is true.
[00:47:09] Speaker B: Playoffs, which they haven't since, I want to say 2007, right?
[00:47:15] Speaker A: I think so. I think it's been almost.
I think it's more than that. Let me look. You go on with number twelve and I'll look up last time they made.
[00:47:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So my number twelve pick, which this is a player too, that. That I feel like is up in the air for being in the top ten.
Consta Helenas.
Helenas 2010 2011. It's a hard, hard last name to say. Consta Helenas. He's a center out of Finland. He's got 36 points in 51 games in the league, which is the top division in Finland. And to be doing that, he's playing against, you know, ex NHL ers, players that are professionals, that are past 18 years old. So I feel like he's definitely proven that he's going to be a good player in the NHL. I think anybody who gets this player, Consta, I'm just going to say because I butchering his last name, I feel. Feel like he's going to be bringing a lot of high offensive skills, but he's also very good defensively. I mean, I mean, just reading of him and watching some of his highlights, I think it would be a steal if they got him there. But not only that, I feel like Philadelphia is lacking center depth big time. So I feel like this. They're going to pick a center. I think it's between him and Berkeley Catton. I think it's kind of interchangeable between them, but I'm going to go with Consta. Feel like he'd fit a little bit better under torturella.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. I like that.
Well, with the Sabres taking Trevor Connolly at eleven, that falls that Carter Yamachuk, however the fuck you say his name is going to fall to the Flyers.
I mean, I think the Flyers, their prospect pool is not the greatest. They. They have added. Okay, let me roll back a bit. It's not as wide as some of these other teams that are on this list.
Obviously, they have Matthew Mitchikov, they have Jamie Drysdale.
But I do think they still need to get a couple more pieces. And I think Carter, yummy Carter. I'm just going to call him by his first name. Carter is a good fit for that team. 30 goals, 41 assists. Um. Katniss still on the board?
Catton? Yes, he is still on the board. I believe so. Right?
[00:49:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he's still on the board right now for both of us, which I said, I think I don't think that he goes in the top ten just because his size and the WHL is a pretty high scoring league.
That's the only reason I see him not in the top ten, which I think is kind of wild.
I could also see the Devils potentially picking them, but I just feel like the teams in the top ten, especially going into those later drafts, like five through ten, I feel like those players lack defense. Defense, defenseman big time. I also could see him maybe going to Seattle too, instead of Iserman. But I mean, that's what I have to say about cotton. I feel like that's the lowest he's going to go though, is probably with Seattle at eight. Just to answer that question, but. Sorry, continue about the flyers.
[00:50:17] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's all I was going to say. It was perfect timing, Steve, for that comment.
Yeah, I think it'd be a good pick for them at that point. I think Berkeley Catton is also a good choice for them. I just have him later on my list and I really don't want to change this list up because I'm going to forget who I put where. So I'm keeping that pick there. Who is your number 13 for the Minnesota wild?
[00:50:42] Speaker B: So I think Trevor Connelly is going to be number 13. I think he's going to fall big time.
But he is committed to Providence University next year. I know he's had some off eyes issues. He could potentially even fall even harder. But the wild definitely need some left wings outside of Caprisov. They're lacking in that department. So that was my pick for number 13. Who did you have?
[00:51:08] Speaker A: I have a number 13.
This is where it could be interchanged. Berkeley Catton could go 13 or constant helinas and I'm gonna stick with constant halinas for the wild. You know, like you had said, he's a good two way. Two way center and the wilderness another spot where it's like, I don't know what they can do because there's so much they. They have like good pieces on their team. It's just like it just didn't work out for them last year. And, you know, they get a good draft pick out of it. And we see this with teams that have a solid team around them, have an off year and they pick up some young stud and in five years when they're making the playoffs, he's a big difference. Big help for them. So kind of like Timo Meyer for the Sharks. At the time, he had dropped, the Sharks had a bad season, and then the year after that they go to the Stanley cup final. Um, I don't think he was a part of that, but later years like that team of Myers, a big help. So I think it's kind of a similar situation for the wild. Yeah, um, definitely. But with that Sharks talk, number 14, who you got for the Sharks?
[00:52:17] Speaker B: There's second adam. First round pick adam uracek. I think that's how you say his name. I think the j is silent. Yep. But we're going to go with that. He's a right handed defenseman. I think the Sharks just need a little bit more depth on d. Yep. Um, I think their forward depth is going to be very nice. I think that they're going to pick a forward, uh, in that top ten as well. Obviously Macklin celebrity. But, uh, that could be. I think your check would be a good steal.
[00:52:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:47] Speaker B: Don't have too much more insight on him. I know he's from Czechia and he had an injury this past season, so, um, I feel like that's made his draft stock drop a lot. I feel like last year he was pretty high up there. I think even in the top ten, but that injury is going to hold him back. But I think if he's available, I think they pick him. I could also see them picking yakum, yakim, chuck, if he's available. I feel like you're talking about him a lot, but that's who I got. Who you got for.
[00:53:13] Speaker A: I have the same thing. I think the sharks going to pick a defenseman here. I think they need to, like you said, they have great forward depth.
They got Eklund, Smith, and now Celebrini as their big stars. And I think they need now a defenseman who can kind of help them out.
So, yeah, I think he'd be a good defenseman and it may not be him, but I think regardless, it's going to be a defenseman no matter who or what it is. But yeah. Who you got for number 15? The Detroit Red Wings.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: So number 15, I feel like this is a bold choice to say this guy's going to fall this hard, but Bert Berkeley Cotton, I think he. That he's going to fall 215. I just think his size is holding back. He's the third WHL player to get 115 points, though, after Bedard and Nick Batan.
So that's something very, you know, prominent. That's a very good stat. He's got 54 goals this past season, so he can, he can score. So I could definitely see this guy going top ten. I just feel like a lot of GM's are going to pass on him because of size. But who do you got at number 15 for the rings?
[00:54:20] Speaker A: I have Berkeley Catton as well. I think he doesn't drop less than 15.
Yeah, I mean, I think, like we said in the beginning, like, a lot of these picks, they're so tough to, like, really, really pick.
They are. Yeah. And with him being the third WHL player with 150 points after bedard and Nick Batan. But I think that's a steal no matter where you pick him at.
I don't know where he was ranked before the beginning of this season. Um, but I could see a lot of movement through all these picks. There's so much that goes into it, so much that they know that we don't know. The draft interviews add so much to it as well. Um, you know, we get little reports about the draft interview and, like, what happened. But, um. But yeah, you got for 16.
[00:55:06] Speaker B: For 16. I got Sasha Boivert. Boy Boivay. Maybe that's how you say it. He's a center. Uh, he's had 68 points in the USHL this past year. I feel like the blues could definitely take a good all around center, committed to und next year, which produces excellent players.
I think he's going to grow a lot in NCAA. And I feel like this is, this is a player that if the Blues get two, three years from now and he has a good college career, he's going to be a really good player that goes kind of under the radar. So that's. That's who I got for 16. Don't have too much insight. One on the blues, but just like Sean said, these picks are kind of like somewhat out there. They could move a lot. But who do you got for 16?
[00:55:52] Speaker A: Number 16? I believe that the Blues are going to take the Russian Igor Narra Shernhause. Oh, my God. I just butchered that Cherno shove.
[00:56:04] Speaker B: Yeah, dude.
[00:56:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
Feel like I'm. I don't even know what I'm speaking, but, yeah, I think he's a solid player for them. The Blues are another organization where it's like, what do you guys do? I don't know. You guys aren't picking great. 16 is not great.
I don't think that they have. I mean, by definition, they're literally mid. They're 16 in the league. It's middle of the pack.
But I also think that, yeah, I think they need to move something. They need to do something and maybe flip this pick for something else. I don't know. I don't. We'll be. I'm curious to see if we get any trades throughout these eleven through 20 because I feel like some of these teams on here are teams that maybe just need to flip that pick for someone else.
Get like, I just don't know if they have really time to wait for some of these players to develop, so maybe flip these picks to someone who needs it and get a good return out of it. But that's who I got for 16. Who you got for 1717?
[00:57:15] Speaker B: I got Liam Greentree. Thank you for not a hard name. He's a right winger. Played for the Windsor Spitfires in the OHL. Scored 90 points in 63 games. Caps are lacking right wing depth. Just looking at them, I think we got TJ Oshi, who's. He's 37 years old, Tom Wilson and Sonny Milano. So besides that, outside of that, I mean, they're.
They're slim on the right wing, so I think they're going to go with the right winger. Liam Green tree is my, my pick for there. He's a playmaker is what I've seen about him. But who do you got for.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: I think that's a good, good mix of those two.
They've also got Ryan Leonard, too, who they picked up last year, who I think is going to be a stud. They got him out of steel. I want to say he was like eight or nine in the draft last year, but picking 17, I think they're going to take Sasha Boisevois. Have you say that name? I think the caps, you know, like you said, I think, yeah, they're lacking in that depth, but they have Ryan Leonard. I think he's a solid player if you can get to someone like Sasha. And I think, um. I'm just going to keep saying that name. Crazy. What's funny to me is that we're going to be at this draft in Vegas, watching these players get called the names. We're going to be like, oh, that's how you say it. We totally messed that up. But he's going to und next year, so he, like you said, he's going to have some time to develop down there. I don't know if Ryan Leonard is coming to the Capitals this year or if he's staying another year in BC. I imagine if Will Smith is leaving, he's probably going to leave as well, along with Gabe Perot. But who knows? They could have another year. So the Caps might just really suck next year. Who knows? I think they're just going to be trying to get over his goals. I think that's their only game plan for real, though, and then rebuild from there and help it out. But who you got for number 18? The Chicago Blackhawks.
[00:59:07] Speaker B: For number 18, I got Igor Sharon shov. We'll go with is he's a left winger, pretty crappy russian player. I know you talked about him a little bit. He's got 28 points in 22 games.
Four points in the KHL as well.
First week I was talking about was the MHL, which is the juniors for Russia.
But I can just see this happening. Hawks go back to back. Russians get Shern, shove and Demidov.
Why not? You know, get the, get the russian machine doesn't break. But who you got for number 18? This pick was originally with New York Islanders.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: Yeah, Blackhawks got him. I think they're going to go with Liam Green Tree, easy name this time, 90.63 games, like you talked about with the Windsor Spitfires.
I mean, I think the name of the game for the Blackhawks is get bedard some help.
I think we'll see who they pick it to.
I think, I don't. I think I had demidov them taking.
I think I had the Blackhawks taking Demidov at two.
But especially if the Blackhawks take a defenseman, I think they're going to need to get some forward help for Berdard.
And, you know, I don't think this guy's going to make an impact green tree, I don't think he's going to make an impact this upcoming season, which is tough. But Blackhawks and Bedard both know that this is a long, long ride, just like it was for McDavid. Um, there's going to be some growing pains and, I mean, even, I guess McDavid's way different because McDavid literally had, what, four first round draft picks, picks before him or first overall draft picks before him. Um, so it's a little different. But I think, regardless, I think bedard needs help, and that's the Blackhawks game plan for the long term that I see. Um, he's a good playmaker, obviously. So is bedard. But Bedard's also got a great shot on him. So if they can get some help on the right wing, I think it'll help him out. But who you got for number 19?
[01:01:13] Speaker B: This one is.
This one was still tough for me. I feel like the Knights kind of lack on their right wing depth, so I went Beckett, Saneke. He's a strong skater.
Not much more on him, though.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah, same. I picked same one.
[01:01:31] Speaker B: That's what I went with.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah. Golden Knights, Bennett Sinecki.
Same thing here. What you have written down is strong skater.
Yeah, yeah. Like, the Knights. It's tough with the Knights, too.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: Like, what place for the Oshawa generals and. Ohl. So. Okay, that's a little bit more about him.
[01:01:55] Speaker A: What do the Knights need, really? I mean, realistically, I don't.
[01:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:58] Speaker A: Really know that they need much. Much. They have a great team around them. I think it's just.
I'm sure they'll trade this first round pick for some fucking player, if I'm being honest. I'm sure they'll get rid of them eventually. Just keep stacking players. But number 20 for the Islanders from the Tampa Bay Lightnings. Originally, I got Michael Haig.
He's a center power forward.
Do you have him as well?
[01:02:26] Speaker B: Same here. Yeah. Power forward, center. 75 points in 54 games. I feel like he's going to fit in good next year in NCAA. Yeah.
I feel like they. They can get a player that needs to develop a little bit, and I just feel like he fits with the Islanders. Yes. His style of play. They are always getting those power forwards and gritty players, so I just feel like he's. He's got Islanders written all over him.
[01:02:51] Speaker A: He does.
A boring player. No, I'm kidding. Um, but that wraps up our mock draft from picks eleven to 20. Again, if you missed one through ten, that's a good one. We've got a video coming up. It's going to be out on social media, but go listen to that. It's a little bit more in depth on the podcast from last week, episode 37, if you want to hear it all. But we're going to the draft yet again. We've been plugging this for months now, and it's so close, nine days away. So be sure to keep in touch with us, keep following us, getting some content out, some street content, all that fun stunt. So fun stuff. So you're not going to miss it. Be sure to follow us on instagram. Right down there below me. Right here. Right here. Right here. Oh, God. Right there. Follow that at good old hockey podcast. We're almost at 500, by the way. And, you know, maybe. Maybe this is a sign from the man upstairs giving us the challenge of pushing this series on and on. But we're at 495 right now. We got more time. We need five followers by Friday if it ends. And we've hit our goal of 500 at the end of playoffs. So if you know anyone that likes would like our stuff, send it to them. Be like, hey, follow these guys. They're freaking out. They're awesome. They're epic. Or tell them that we suck and you just want to hate on us all the time. I don't care. Whatever you want to do. Go follow us and plug in it one more time. The Patreon. Go sign up if you want a free jersey and join that Patreon, you'll get access to our discord where you can talk hockey with us live in real time. You don't have to wait for us to go live on Thursdays or whenever we do these episodes. You can talk to us straight up right there. 199 a month.
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[01:05:04] Speaker B: Not really. Uh, got a hockey game tonight, so gonna have fun with that. Yeah, I'm not gonna forget my gloves last like I did last time. Yeah, fucking brutal. I had to borrow some, like, blocky roller hockey gloves, but not gonna do that this time, but yeah. Thanks for everyone for watching. Thank you for following too. And five away for 500. Uh, hopefully we can get to a thousand next.
[01:05:33] Speaker A: I think we could get to without, like, we could call our shot right now. I think we can get to a thousand by the start of next season. I think that's very possible.
[01:05:41] Speaker B: Same here. I think we're going to have to go hard in the summer, but yeah. Yeah, 100%, I think. I think it's doable and, yeah. Shout out, everyone for watching. Appreciate you guys. I love you guys, even though you hate me and hate my Calgary Flames player picks and. Yeah, all that. But thank you guys.
[01:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah, thank you guys for listening. We'll be back next week right before the draft. We'll do a little, what's it called? We'll do a little, I guess finishing up the mock draft for the rest. Those might be. Those might be pretty brutal for us. We don't. You know, those picks are going to be tough, but we're going to try for you guys.
Then after that, we'll get in some off season content. Trying to get some interviews with people, hockey players from all walks of life and what else was I going to say? Oh, and then we'll definitely do a podcast after the draft recap for you guys. So if you don't see anything, you know, maybe tell some behind the scenes stories that you guys didn't see on social media. Because our parents follow us.
We'll tell some funny stories on the episode after the draft, so be sure to tune in. And with mean, the only word I can really say is, go, Panthers. Cast in six. You got till Friday. Close it out. Let's get this shit.
[01:06:56] Speaker B: Go, Panthers.
[01:06:57] Speaker A: Go, Panthers.
[01:06:58] Speaker B: Go, flames. Kind of, but go, panthers for right now.
[01:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. Thank you, guys. We will see you guys next week. Peace. Peace.
