[00:00:09] Speaker A: Welcome back everybody to the good old hockey podcast. This is episode number 53. 53.
I'm here, Sean, with my co host Alan.
We've got an exciting episode. We're going to be talking about the world Junior championship. If you know us, we are some red blooded Americans and we're very happy with the outcome.
I don't think anyone that listens is going to be a fan of this episode if you're from Canada.
So click off unless you want to get mad.
And you can leave hate comments all you want, we don't care. But before we get into that, Alan, how was your week? How did the new year start off for you?
[00:00:54] Speaker B: New year started off well. Went to the Idaho potato drop, which is an interesting experience. Never done that before. Those of you who aren't in Idaho, obviously Idaho is known for potatoes. Yeah, it's just a big, big old.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: Potato that just gets dropped. It's right in front of the Capitol.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: It's like think about the New York Times. That or New York Times. New York. What do they call it? Times Square. There we go. I had some of the right words. Yeah, they dropped the ball. Idaho. We drop a potato because. Yeah, why not? It's also significantly smaller. There were probably 4, 000 people there, whereas Times Square has, you know, millions or whatever. I don't really. Yeah, never been. But it was a good experience. Went to a Idaho Steel Heads game. Watched the boys lose to the Utah Grizzlies. It was the worst hockey game I think I've ever watched live the Steel. I mean, you go to an ECHL game, you're not expecting NHL quality hockey, but it was brutal. It looked like, yeah, a beer league team playing a professional hockey team. But lost 4 to 1. Had a good night. It was a good time.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Nice. Yeah, yeah. The. Because we released an episode on the 1st of 1st of January, but this is the first recording that we're having in the new year. So 2025 is upon us. And honestly, that always means a good thing when the new year hits because that means the NHL is only heating up.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: It also means Sean's birthday is only two days away, at least from the date that we dropped our last episode. Late. Happy birthday to you, buddy.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah, 25. 25 feel very old.
Officially hit UNC status. As my brother said. That's awesome.
No longer I feel like, I don't know, 25 is a weird age because I feel like every time before that you're just like, oh, I'm in my early 20s, but now I'm in my mid-20s now, which is just weird to think about.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: I think 24 is mid 20s too.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: But it is, but you just don't think about it. Yeah, you're just like kind of. I'm kind of mid-20s, but I was also like not able to buy beer four years ago. So.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: Yeah, you can rent a car now.
It's for a lot cheaper than a premium under 25 fee.
[00:03:15] Speaker A: Yeah, you don't have to.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Can you.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: You don't have to do that or you don't have to pay the premium that you normally do? Yeah, but yeah, let's get on to it. We're going to look at the leaderboards for stats just with the new month coming in.
So as of right now, with points We've got Nathan McKinnon clearly in the lead. Well, not clearly. He's up by six points behind Alan's favorite player, Leon Dry seidel. He's got 65 points.
I don't know how many. Let's see. Let's click on his name.
Currently he's at 14 goals and 51 assists, which is very impressive.
By nine.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Okay, that's crazy.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's impressive. And then Leon Drysel second. We got Mika Ranton, Mitch Marner, all around the same hover around that same number. 59, 57.56 goals.
Alan, how do you feel about this one? Leon Dry Seidel's leading the league in goals with 29.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: I'm not very happy about this, especially because it's such a. Such a decisive lead too. He's leading by not. The next closest guy is Mika Rant and Girl Caprisov. Oh, there's a few guys typer second. We got a five. Yeah, five way tie for a second at the time of recording this video. But the next closest guys are at 23 goals which means he's leading the league in goals by six.
I'm not very happy about it because he didn't do this the year I had him. In fantasy.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Yeah. How dare him?
How dare him? Honestly, if you're listening, you need to make sure you do this when Alan picks you. In fantasy, dumbass.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: I'm never picking him again. In fantasy. I hate that guy.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Anyways, anyways.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: Onward the goaltending stats. We got Connor Hell book in the lead for goals against with 2.09 goals against. In second, Anthony Stolars which this list here well over the top five. Top five got Connor Hellbut Stolars, Jacob Markstrom, Philip Gustafson and Darcy Kemper.
Honestly, Stolars and Darcy Kemper are still ours. In particular is a new face to be at the top of the league against. I haven't caught too many Maple Leafs games, so I don't really know how they're playing.
I'm pretty sure they lost to Boston the other night. But in safe percentage Stoler's number one as well.
0.927. Yeah.
Second isn't far behind with Hellback and Gustafson at 0.926.
So it's a pretty close race between those three.
Also Mackenzie Blackwood 0.917 in fifth. Pretty impressive. Good for him.
As Sharks fans, you know we love to see success.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: Especially out of him. Like he's a great goalie. Wish we could have kept him along. But you know the way it goes when you're rebuilding, you can't really keep some of those pieces that you'd like to.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: It's a business.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And return from them.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: So.
[00:06:25] Speaker A: But glad to see you well and then let's see who the rookie leaderboard right now. I want to say off the top of my head, top three.
Lane Hudson's number one. I want to say now after tonight's game recording this on Monday.
Mitchkov is two, Celebrini is three. So we talked about last episode. I'm sure these are all going to be. There's gonna be a tight race here. I have a feeling.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: I think Philly also plays tonight on the day of this recording. So this could change. Oh no, they don't play tonight. Never mind.
Supposedly. Liar.
Yeah, they play the Leafs tomorrow.
The Sharks play the night or the Knights tomorrow. So this could all change. Yeah.
But it's kind of funny. They've kind of been. Those three guys have been bouncing back and forth for the lead last. I mean since the season started pretty much.
[00:07:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: After Mac got back from injury. But those three guys have been bouncing back and forth between the leaders.
It is pretty cool to see a defenseman up there. Obviously. I think we talked about this last week. Hudson's kind of a fourth forward out there.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: But it is pretty cool to see. And then after that you got a bunch of guys who are.
I mean the youngest guy after him that I can see in the top six is Logan Stankhoven who's like 21.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: So those three guys are the only guys are really consider rookies towards the top of the leaderboard.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: Yeah. We talked about this a bit off air.
Honestly. I think if you're over the age of 21, you're no longer a rookie I think goalies kind of have a little bit of a leeway just because it's a little bit harder to develop. But I. Yeah, I just think a.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Beer, like, yeah, you shouldn't be competing with an 18 year old, you know?
[00:08:29] Speaker A: No. 18, 19, 20, like, that's totally valid. They're young. 21's still young, don't get me wrong. But.
Yeah, it's just. I get it. Like it's their first year, the NHL, but then you look at it and you're like. I mean, I think that's why Macklin won the Hobie last year was because he was 17.
There's a lot of, you know, very deserving people last year to win that award, but I think him being 17 was a big factor in why he won that award. So hopefully they take that into account with the Calder. We'll see. See, not over yet, but the next thing. We haven't talked about this in a while because he's been hurt, but we're back to the OV Goal tracker. The man.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: Yeah, we are.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: The legend is back. He had a break. Broken. What is it? Fibula. Tibula.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: Fibula, I think.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Broken leg.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: One of the legs.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. Got hurt.
He has had four goals in the last six games played as of Monday. He played tonight, didn't score. But still four goals in the last six games he's played is just unbelievable.
This guy. This guy's a gamer. He, I think, really wants to break that record this year, and he's on pace for it.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: So it's kind of funny I'm looking at it right now.
So they list.
Let's see here.
They list the top 50 on NHL.com, at least on the first page. Right?
[00:10:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: He is currently 15th in scoring and the next lowest games played. He's played 24 games played at this point in time. The next lowest games played that I'm seeing is.
Let's see here. There's a couple guys with 31 games played and they're down. Ivan Barbashev and Dimitri Virakhanov have 31 games played, and they're four or five goals less than them, which is kind of funny. It's just crazy how he's still producing at this. Yeah, I. I say this old of an age, obviously in the grand scheme of things, 39 is not old. No, but like in the NHL, that's ancient. And he's still producing at a top 15 score. He's. He's well above point per game. Yeah, he's got 30 points in 24 games. It's insane.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he would be because what is he at? 19 goals? How many goals?
[00:11:11] Speaker B: 19 goals.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And Dry Seidel has 29 goals. I think if Gretzky didn't get hurt, it's fair to say that he would be in that leaderboard. If not one like I. He was on such a roll when he got hurt, but clearly it hasn't affected anything. And he's still chugging along.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: And dry saddle has 15 games played more than him and 10 more goals. OV's kind of scoring at that pace right now. Like. Yeah, he might be in first. I don't know.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah, he. Very well. Yeah. And there's still a lot of hockey left to be played.
I don't know what the. What game. How many games played does roughly everyone have?
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Most of the. Pretty much everybody's around halfway through the season.
Around 39 to 42 games played.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: For the most part. So. So we're at the halfway point.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: He's at 19 goals. With that injury, he might still hit 40, which is ridiculous for a 39 year old. It'll be 40 at the end of the season, I'm pretty sure.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Yeah. At his age, if he scores more goals than his age, that's nuts. Yeah, that's, you know, like when you're a kid, obviously that's pretty normal, but for a 39 year old to have more goals than his age, it's insane.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: He's definitely gonna break the record.
I don't know. You. Your thought was February. I don't think that's a possibility anymore.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: The injury derailed it. Yeah, I stuck. I stick with that. If. If he hadn't gotten hurt, he would have. He would have beaten the record in February. But.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: Yes, I think we should hang that banner.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: I think we should. Nashville.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: Put a banner up. This random guy won. Beat the scoring title. Lashville is going to hang a banner for him.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Not a random guy. It's Alexki.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: Yeah, whatever.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: But yeah, Capitals.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: I said he was in 15th. I don't really know why I said he's tied for 11th in scoring and he missed. He's got 15 less games played than pretty much everybody else above him, which is just wild.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's just very impressive.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I hope. I think he can hit it.
He's. I mean, realistically, there's not. There's only four months left to hockey.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: Yep. As of like today, knowing ov, it'll probably be like an empty net goal on the last game of the season. And then everybody's gonna talk about, oh, how many empty netters does he have? Because Canadians like to. You know, they like to.
What's the term? Gatekeep hockey. They're like, nobody else can be good at hockey, only Canada. Yeah, they're gonna be. Oh, Gretzky is the best goal scorer ever. He. Yeah, shut up.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, that's not true. Gretzky's last season. Assuming this is Obi's last season. Gretzky's last season, the guy had 53 assists, which is impressive, but only nine goals.
Like we said before, this is no shade to Wayne Gretzky. He's the greatest hockey player of all time all around.
But he played against some. Some losers in that, I will say, just some jabronis that didn't know how to go down for a butterfly. So it's like, I don't know. I don't really wanna. Not discrediting Ovich or Gretzky at all, but what Alex Ovechkin is doing with the game of hockey, where it's at now and how goalies play and how good goalies are, is just so impressive.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: And he'll go down as the greatest goal score ever.
I think, once he's done. He already is.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I think he passed that up three years ago.
Yeah, it's. You can't win nine Rocket Richards and not be considered the greatest goal scorer ever. Like. Yeah, that just. Does he win? He's won one more than every other year of his career. That's insane. Yeah. That guy's unreal.
[00:15:22] Speaker A: No.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: Anyways, let's talk crap about Canada.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: Speaking of favorite segments.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: All right, so World Juniors, the usa.
Not even just the usa. We'll get off the USA for a second. Canada to Latvia, the United States and Czechia. In not even a medal game, Canada placed fifth at the World Juniors.
[00:15:51] Speaker B: Canada. What happened?
[00:15:54] Speaker A: Yeah, and this is their sport. And, you know, there's a lot of things wrong, I think, with. With that team, but a couple points. A lot of people say, you know, oh, this is their B minus team, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff, honestly.
And like, I just read this in an article the other day.
It doesn't really. You can't just pick the best players and expect them to win.
Obviously, at the same time, they tried to do the approach of, like, oh, we gotta pick kids with good character. Their character sucked because they did not win.
So there's that. But I don't think that, you know, even if you did pick some of the best players, a Lot of players were left off. Sure.
Is there politics involved? I don't know. I'm not in the backstage behind, you know, what goes on at Hockey Canada.
There might be rumors of stuff that's happened. Sure. Cool. But guess what? You lost three times. You don't deserve anything. And you had home ice advantage. All playoff or all the whole tournament, you had home ice advantage. So there's really no excuse for what happened other than the USA dominates hockey.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: So I, I love this so much. I love that whole. Canada's bringing their B minus team. Right. I, I love that statement because I'm just looking through the rookie leaderboard. There's like five guys on here that are American and that are under the age of 21 years old currently. Right.
You can't just go around and say, oh well, you know, if, if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike. Right.
It makes no sense. The tournament is set up this way. NHL players typically don't go. By the way, Chicago could have released Connor Bedard to go play. Right?
I'm pretty sure they could have released Connor Bedard. If you're under the age of 20, you're eligible for the tournament. There are guys in there that have played NHL games. So like it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter who the hell was there and who the hell wasn't there. Right?
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: You still lost the tournament to Cheshire in, in a non metal round for the second year in a row. Yeah. By the way, the US Then went on to beat Cheshire pretty convincingly.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: And also Canada wants to say, oh, we beat Finland. Finland beat you. Well, guess who won.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: Who?
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Guess who beat Finland in the gold medal game. The US of A, baby. We.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Shut up.
Shut up. Who cares? We lost to us. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: That too.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: Get.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: I'm swearing a lot. I love on Canada.
It might be my favorite thing to do. It just. I find it really funny. I listen, I love hearing the. I love seeing the comments. Oh, 20 gold medals. 20 gold medals. Guess what? Since 2010, most of the guys who are in the league, by the way, were drafted after 2010. Right. This is just how it is.
Since 2010, the US has won more gold medals than Canada, which is crazy. Right? That's crazy to think about. Guess what? It's not your sport anymore.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: Get like, get rocks now. You also haven't won a Stanley cup in 30 years. Now people are going to say to that, to that point, oh well, if Russia was in the tournament, they'd take away Gold medals from both teams. Right. Because that they probably would have Russia's consistently producing insane hockey talent. Right.
That's still, you know, if my grandma wheel should be a bite, like, it doesn't matter.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: Hang the banner. Hang the banner.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: Canada, hypothetically, would have won.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: We put it in asterisks. Would have won if we had Zane Parek and this guy and that. No. Guess what? You don't have them. So you didn't win.
Yeah.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: It's so great. I love. I think. I think the hockey community is a better place when Canada loses games and lose important games. Right. There's. Realistically, nobody cares about the iahf. Like, like men's championships.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Nobody watches that. NHL players don't go.
This is the next best thing to the Olympics. Right.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: At least the Olympics when NHL players were going.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: And Canada sucked at it for the last 15 years.
And I think that's a great thing. I think it's hilarious.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: It makes me very happy.
[00:20:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And if there is backstage political mess, you know, that goes into picking these players.
Okay.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Figure it out. Stop.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Then figure it out. Yeah. US doesn't have that problem because we've won.
You know, and at the end of the day, I think overall, like, aside getting away from Canada because they're below us. So we're not gonna pay attention because it's.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: It's.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: We're. I don't want to be punching down anymore.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'm going to be looking at what we have going. And what was great about the tournament is the players that the US Has. Ryan Leonard, the captain signer. This is in can right here, actually.
[00:21:22] Speaker B: Beast. Ryan Leonard's beast. He's a beast.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: Cole Iserman.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: Canada hates him.
[00:21:27] Speaker A: Who was. Yeah. Cole Iserman. Who hit that? The I can't hear you celebration.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Funny enough, those two guys. I've been seeing a lot on the Internet about how like, basically everyone was hating both Ryan Leonard and Cole Hudson. Cole Hudson because of the selling Ryan Leonard. Because he's Ryan Leonard. Right. Wait, Cole or Cole Hudson? Pardon me?
Wrong. Cole. Cole Hudson hit the. That cell. I thought, no, it's Hudson. Maybe they both did it.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: I don't know. I know Cole Eisman did the Superman chest. And he also yelled at that dude on Team Canada who's Easton Cowan. Yeah, Cowboy. He was like, you cowboy? Or something like that. He's just like. He had a dirty play. I don't remember exactly what happened, but God bless America.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: You ran a guy into the boards from behind.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. And also the cherry on top was Freebird as their goal song. That is what single handedly won them this tournament. Once I heard that, yeah, game one, I was like, yes, we're winning gold. And I hope to God that during the four nations tournament, you know, that's gonna resolve this storyline beef for the rest of the season. If Canada wins that four nations tournament all I don't know about you, Alan, but I will graciously bow my head and say, good job, you guys won a stupid tournament.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: I said, this might have been a stupid take, right? I said this might be a horrible take. Like I. My conscience is clean. I don't really care. And the US Just won the World Junior Championship on Canadian soil. The U.S. has won it seven times. Four times it's been in Canada, which is hilarious.
Yeah, fantastic. Let's go over the stats real quick.
At least just the basic stats. So starting out, the leader in points for the tournament was Cole Hudson, defenseman. Which is interesting games. Yep.
[00:23:40] Speaker A: If you guys can put that together.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: Second, well, these are all tied. There's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 guys with 10 points. But the way that the World Junior Championship has it ranked is Jakob stonsel. He had seven goals, three assists and 10 games played.
Ryan Leonard in third with five goals, five assists. Axel Sandin Pelica with four goals, six assists. And then Gabe Perot, three goals and seven assists.
Just looking down the lists, there's a bunch of notable names here. Guys that were drafted pretty high up, that had great tournaments, but one big one, James Higgins, playing as an underager. He's well underage. Or he's 18 right now because he could wear the half shield.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Not undrafted is what you meant.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Undrafted, yeah. Had nine points, five goals, four assists and seven games played. It's a good tournament out of that guy.
To my knowledge, he led all undrafted players in points.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: Yeah, looks like he did.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: How did, Was there any, was there any Canadians on that list?
[00:24:49] Speaker B: Funny enough, we were talking about this beforehand, so I know I wasn't going.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: To punch down, but I'm going to punch down for a second. Any Canadians on that list?
[00:24:59] Speaker B: No, there aren't. So they. The IHF ranks 30 players, right.
And looking at it, looks like they rank in order of how many goals they scored. So the guys with the most goals, if they're tied, go number one.
There is a Latvian and a German on this list.
Now I've been, I've been watching the World Junior Championships for a while, right.
Germany is normally the worst team in the tournament. Right. Yeah, there's a German at 18th, Julius Sump. Hopefully I'm saying that right, at seven goals in five games. Now, Canada played five games and there is not a single guy up here with at least five points. Which is pretty funny, huh?
[00:25:51] Speaker A: Not even Gavin McKenna?
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Nope.
And then Eric's Mateko from Latvia. He was a big time goal scorer. It I. I watched the recap of all the Latvian games. I didn't watch an actual Latvian game. Yeah, besides the US One, it seemed like he scored every goal for them, which was insane. I believe he scored two in the Canada game and then had the shootout winner.
Pretty sure he scored against the U.S. it was like he scored every goal for them, which I find pretty funny. But either way, I find it awesome that there's not a single Canadian on this list. It makes my heart warm.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Our sport. Our sport.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: To goalkeepers. Now there is a Canadian here.
Carter George, he led the tournament in. I gotta make this full size.
Led the tournament and say percentage. He had a.935.
Seven goals against, 1.76 goals. Goals against average, I want to say, played four games.
Then you have Peteri Rimpanin out of Finland, Leonard's Feldbergs, which we talked a little bit about when we were making fun of Canada for losing a Latvia last week. He was the third best goalie in the tournament. He had a.929 save percentage and he was facing a lot of shots.
Yeah, he faced 30 less shots than Peter Rimpan in from Finland and played two less games. Also played every minute of Latvian hockey.
Then you have Michael Rabble and Trey Augustine from Czech and the US Respectively. All had good tournaments.
Pretty interesting.
Any comments, questions, concerns, anything like that?
[00:27:53] Speaker A: Honestly, Canada, I wouldn't be worried too much because you're about to become the 51st state. So you're gonna have all of our medals and we're gonna have all yours, so.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: Dude, it'll be great. We'll be a superpower. Think about it. And you guys can be good at basketball. Finally. True. The CFL can merge with the NFL and all the CFL teams will get stomped every week. That'd be hilarious.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I think they can keep that.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: I don't want the cfl. Yeah, it's cool.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: It's interesting. I will give him that. And it's a place where some players can go to play. Like the NFL doesn't have a deep system like the NHL does or baseball.
So we can maybe take those players.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: But not a football podcast. Right. But I would like to see the missed field goal. You can run it back.
I would like to see that implemented in the NFL. That'd be sick.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Yeah, there are some CFL rules, I will say that would benefit the American game. Yeah, but what do I know?
Okay, one thing I want to bring up, I forgot to tell you about, but tick tock. So I posted a clip last week about how it was the jersey comment that we made.
Just about how, you know, if you're.
If you're wearing a jersey of a different player. Like, is it weird kind of thing? Right, we talked about that. Is it weird to wear another man's jersey on the back? Ultimately we came up with just like, it's really not that deep. And then like, we're probably going to. But the nature of the Internet, everyone thinks that we're serious.
Again, top comment. Once again, quote, they need to make podcast equipment more expensive.
Thanks, buddy.
Jersey is fine. Imo, if you have a player as your wallpaper slash social media account is where it gets a little weird. I said, fair point.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: I agree with that.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Blank jerseys are dust. If an 18 year old is cold, I'll be a fan of the kid. Like, I've never understood this logic based in jealousy. Question mark. I said, just hypothetical. Blank jerseys are lame. So being honest, we'll probably not actually care that much when we get older. LOL.
[00:30:05] Speaker B: Also, I was wearing an 18 year old's jersey in that clip.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: Y'all are thinking about it too much. To which I said, yes, we are.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Someone said, literally couldn't be more normal. It's a player on the team. Why do you people think it's weird?
[00:30:21] Speaker B: Lol.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: I said, some people do think it's weird. We were just posing the question.
It's not that deep. Yep, I know.
Once you turn like 20 to 22, you shouldn't be buying names on the back. I said, I still might do it. So we had a lot of people agreeing with us. There were some let me go to the band comments, the ones that won't show up.
Someone said, is it gay to like football?
Which I don't know what that meant, so I just didn't say. Someone said, seems like you're just insecure off.
And so the photo I used as the front was a photo of Drake in a Maple Leafs jersey. Just because Drake. Someone said Drake is a fan of kids born in 2010 with the emoji. That was like one of the first comments.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: That's awesome. Okay.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Someone's brought something into like, I don't remember what it was. It was just something like, about gayness or being homophobic. And I was like, that's literally not what this is about at all. This couldn't be further from the truth.
I don't know what you're reaching for, person with flags in your emoji or in your bio, but that's not what we're talking about there.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: So wait, so we were being homophobic?
[00:31:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I was like, how? We're talking about jerseys.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: It was questionable for a 40 year old man to wear an 18 year old man's jersey.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. They had a rainbow flag and a Ukraine flag in their bio, so naturally. Yeah, you know, but yeah, I just want to bring that up. Comments are always so funny.
[00:32:02] Speaker B: So drop some hate comments, please.
[00:32:05] Speaker A: Yeah, they're fun to respond to. They're fun to react to.
Some of them do hit hard though. I'm like, okay, you don't need to be holy. Some of them knows.
Yeah. When you comment on like, I might get for this pimple on my lip today, but honestly, it's like, whatever. I guarantee you, you are ugly. Whoever's commenting, my nose is going over.
[00:32:29] Speaker B: The pimple right now.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: Thanks. It's the other way, but yeah, Tick tock. Go follow.
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But that brings us towards the end. We haven't done this in a while, so we're gonna do it. We're gonna do our Sharks rant. So if you're a Sharks fan, stick around.
If you want to hear us talk about the Sharks, stick around. If you don't want to hear us, turn us off. Because we are kind of crazy and delusional.
But we thank you for listening to most of the episode and. And we'll see you next week. But for those of you that want to hear it, here we go. So The Sharks in 2025 are undefeated.
And I feel great at the time of recording. They play on Tuesday, so we'll see. But a notable player right now is Askarov, and I've actually been able to watch the last two games live. And I will say that man scares the hell out of me playing the puck so bad. But he has not been scored on yet, so I'm not really. I can't. I'm not gonna Hate on the guy for it.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: He did, like, 11 seconds into his Shark's debut, though.
That was from him playing the. Turn the puck over. Yeah.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: But he hasn't done it since. And he's. He, like, toe dragged the guy one. One game.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: Every single goalie has the dream and aspiration of being a forward, right? It's just how it goes, right? You're stuck back there. You're sitting back in your own net. You're like, step plays down the other zone. You're like, oh, I'm bored. What can I do to. What can I do to make life interesting right now? I'm gonna try and score a goal every time I touch the puck. It's an intrusive thought. Now, most goalies in the NHL are pretty good at battling that, right? Unless they have a perfect opportunity.
Askarov does not seem like he's very good at battling that, and I love him because of that. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's like, I'm sure once the Sharks are back in the playoffs and he's in the pipes, he's going out for stupid plays behind the net, like, in overtime, in a game seven. I'm gonna be pretty pissed off. But for right now, it's hilarious. Enjoy it.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: Yeah, and it's fun. It truly is funny. And, like, I think also, I mean, who played. Like, didn't Martin Berde play like that? Like, he was very. Just aggressive. Yes.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: The trapezoid rule because of Martin Burner.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: True. And I'm hoping this is just my hopeful side, but I'm hoping Askarov turns into that. Like a player that transcends the game, a goalie that transcends the game in playing the puck, because he has some serious nuts on him.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: And I tip my. I tip my hat to it because it's. It's impressive. Like, I gotta give him his flowers. Like, he hasn't. He's made the right decisions. There's been a couple, like, one or two where I'm just like, okay, buddy. Oh. Like, yeah, but don't get scored on. So I. Again, but outside of that, like. Yeah, go ahead.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: He's one of those guys that just oozes with confidence, right?
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:55] Speaker B: And he thinks he can do everything, which obviously you can't. But as a. As your starting goalie, that's what you want, right? You want a guy who's. Who thinks, you know, you could be, you know, six games deep into a playoff series, and you've been outshot every game of the series, and you're Like, I'm gonna shut this team out right now. That's what you want. You want a guy neck tattoo. He does bench presses with the net shout outs. Like, that guy's awesome. Yeah, yeah. I'm all for it. I think he's insane. He's been fantastic for the Sharks also. He's had one, like, mediocre game that's playing on the 24, 25. San Jose Sharks is not a team that's really known for a defense. Yeah, he's genuinely been fantastic.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he has. In the Sharks, you know, they. They've had their share of, you know, losing streaks, which I. You know, they're the second worst team in the league right now. Yeah, almost. Maybe after tomorrow they'll be ahead of Nashville, but so too. But you, Tim, you know, we.
We need to rebuild and it's like I. I don't care. Like.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:37:10] Speaker A: I just want to watch fun hockey. And this next part, I'm going to bring up Graph, celebrity. And Smith line has been just so, like, it's just so fun to watch. And like, even just celebrating Smith together off the ice, you know, they have a lot of chemistry. You can tell they're jokesters. They're, you know, media's paying attention to them, giving them, you know, a lot of spotlight. That one assist by Macklin with him diving, and then Smith behind the back pass and then, you know, all that, like, just like watching them play together is just, like, so fun to watch.
And Graph is, you know, kind of.
I feel like people kind of overlook the fact that we have him as well and what he did at the NCAA level. I mean, he was a Hobie finalist.
[00:38:04] Speaker B: Two years in a row, too.
[00:38:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: Colin Graph was two years in a row. He was.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Quinnipiac's best player. And Quinnipiac is a very good program.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: Year in, year out. They never seem to have any, like, big name young guys.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: But they are consistently competing for the Frozen four, which is to be the best player on that team two years in a row.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah. My career. To be able to get. Yeah. For free. Free agent. Like, he was a free agent signing. And I don't know, it was probably a mixture of Smith and the potential of Celebrini that got him to sign. It's a rebuilding team and it's like, you know, you're 23. You do or. No, he's 21.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: 22 now.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: 22 now. Okay. So he's, you know, trying to battle for a spot in the NHL and it's gonna be a Lot easier on a rebuilding team to do that than to go sign with, you know, a competing team. Like you're gonna.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: It's.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: It's a lot rougher.
So honestly, hats off to Mike Greer. He's done an amazing this. This year in general. After and trade deadline haven't. Hasn't even hit yet and. But in the last 365 days, got rid of hurdle which then turned into Askarov got, you know, the first overall pick which was a bit of luck, but, you know, still did it.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: They were also the worst team in hockey by far.
[00:39:37] Speaker A: That too.
[00:39:38] Speaker B: Like, we deserved it. Yeah, us Sharks fans deserve that. If you watched a single Sharks game last season, it was.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: If you did watch a single game last year, like, hats off to you as a Sharks fan because I did not catch many of them because it's just, it's bad hockey wasn't much of a bright spot. And it's not that this year's. There's some games where it's brutal, but there's also a lot of games where they're still in it. And yeah, they might lose or lose in overtime, blow a lead, whatever. They're still in it half the time. And that's all you can ask for as a fan of a rebuilding team.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: So it was funny last season I watched, I watched through like the first 10 games. Pretty much got to those two games where the Sharks let in 10 goals back to back and I had like a self reflecting moment. I was like, why am I spending my life witnessing this when I could just
[email protected] you know, four hours after when I'm going to bed and go, oh, that's brutal. And then go to bed. Yeah, why did I, why did I spend my time watching this? But this year it's, it's, it was complete. Like 360. Not 360, complete. 180 I would say.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, 180. Because I would say, like there wasn't many. Truth. Truthfully, I did not watch many games. I was paying attention to other teams. So I can, you know, talk on the podcast. But yeah, there just wasn't. There was no one to watch either. Like we had, I mean, we didn't have anything. We had. William Eklund was fun to watch, but he was out there with no one.
And even this, I mean, this season he's awesome to watch. And I think, you know, I told or texted you this, like this year. Exactly. I was like, you know, people would ask some of my friends that are Sharks fans, but don't necessarily keep up with the Sharks or they're just from the Bay Area and want to support the Sharks. But they're not like big hockey fans. They're like realistically like how far the Sharks away from being contenders again.
And I was like, honestly like 2029.
And while that may still be true, we can at least hope for maybe a playoff spot in the next two years, three years maybe.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: I think a couple more drafts. Getting.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: High overall defenseman.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: And this team's a playoff team in a couple seasons because once you. Once you have your drafted core defensemen do typically take longer to develop into like regular NHL players. Right.
[00:42:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: Which.
It's just the name of the games. Just like goalies. Right. Where a forward could come in and make an impact at 18, 19, 20 defenseman. Probably won't. But like once you have those guys and they're developing, then he can just go out, make a splash and free agency. The Sharks have cap room for days. Once those contracts are off the books, that's retaining on hurdle Classic will be gone. I think next season. Highly doubt he's going to get resigned.
Couture will probably get bought out if he ever plays a game again. That's another thing that's kind of interesting. The Sharks have been doing this this entire season. They haven't had their captain. Yeah.
Which who knows if that guy will ever play another NHL game. Yeah.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: I don't know what it's going to be. I haven't heard any timeline of him coming back at all.
And he's only 30. I think he's like 31, 32.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: He's drafting 09. So would that make him. He's probably 33.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Okay.
Vlasic is 37 or so. He's getting paid 8 mil a year. So like. Yeah. Once we kind of clear and even then we do have room right now. I just. Yeah. I think you'd rather save it for when you have to resign some of these guys because you.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: You're gonna have to celebrate.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: I'm sure we'll probably give him.
[00:43:49] Speaker A: If he keeps doing what he's doing in three years, what's he gonna. What's he gonna be worth?
[00:43:55] Speaker B: We're looking at a. We're looking at a McDavid. Maybe not that much, but. No. Probably more than that. If he's 21, he's well over point a game.
That's like a 15 million dollar contract.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:44:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm trying to think of comparable players that got resigned.
[00:44:14] Speaker B: Like your eyeskovsky got like nine mil or.
[00:44:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like Cole Caulfield had 8, 5. But I like celebrity is gonna be doing more than. Yeah. So yeah, it could be a 10 mil contract at. You know, and who knows? I mean, I'm gonna be crazy. All those guys. Bedard. I'm curious what he'd be getting paid.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: That'll probably. That'll probably shape the celebrity contract, to be honest.
[00:44:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll probably break some records too for youngest NHL player to making 10 mil. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:47] Speaker B: 10 plus. Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: But as we know about 10 million dollar contracts, we'll see if it's worth. I mean, whatever it is for celebrating. You got to pay him. It doesn't matter. Yeah.
And try to get an eight year deal out of it because he is worth it.
[00:45:05] Speaker B: Walk him up. Yeah, don't give him a bridge as possible. Sorry, buddy. You got a stick in San Jose?
Oh, he likes it. Go home to Vancouver during the winters. I don't care. Or during the summers. Yeah, you're staying here.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: You don't want to be there. Like you don't want to be in Vancouver in the winter anyways. It's cold. Gross. San Jose is 70 degrees most of the time. Yeah, it's pretty nice there. So stay there, please. Please.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: Buy a house in Tracy to be able to afford it.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: Yeah, well, not if he's getting paid what he's getting paid. He'll be chilling. Honestly, he's fine with what he's got now. How much is he making? 900,000.
[00:45:47] Speaker B: It's 925 or whatever. The minimum is 970.
[00:45:50] Speaker A: He's living with. Well, he's living with Jumbo.
[00:45:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he's stacking the bag, him and Smith.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: Here's what's gonna happen, I think after.
Maybe they'll live there another season. But if not, they're gonna go live in Santana Row above probably him and Smith. And they're gonna go out every night.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: They're gonna go to Ozumo every single night, get some sushi, It'll be fire. There's a really good pizza place there. I forget what it's called. I'm forgetting, dude. Probably, to be honest, I. I know a bunch of the guys at least. Like, so I knew I was good friends with this guy whose cousin was some. Some people who watch this podcast will know what I'm talking about. But cousin was working at. In Santana Row and he says there's always sharks players there. They like lived up in the lofts above it. Yep.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: That's where they're gonna live there. I already know it. They're two young stars.
Still won't be known because it's San Jose. They won't know what the hell they are.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: But.
[00:46:49] Speaker A: But that's kind of the perk, honestly, like, for most of these players, like, I think that's why they like it.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: Is because you'll run into, like, the Die Hards, which is always fun to see.
[00:46:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: But you're not going to be, like, swarmed like Steph Curry would be or Brock Purdy would be. Like, you have freedom.
[00:47:07] Speaker B: The only drawback to playing in San Jose is the taxes and the cost of living. But, like, at that point, you're making so much money, it's like, really, like.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: For a Macklin celebrating, you're making $10 million a year in a few years. Like, I don't think he really cares, right.
Yeah. Maybe once he's a little bit older.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:29] Speaker B: In his 30s, maybe he'll move to Florida or some.
Something like that where he's not getting taxed. But at the same time, it's like, if you build a legacy with one team, depending on the character of this player.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Probably want to stick around. Right. Maybe you'll retire in Vancouver. I don't really care.
[00:47:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: But stick around, bud.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:51] Speaker B: You want me to be a fan for life? You better stay.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Mac pumping you. Yeah.
[00:47:58] Speaker B: I love you dearly. You're my savior, my king.
[00:48:01] Speaker A: My savior, my king and my prince.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: The Fresh Prince will get roasted.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I won't. The Fresh Prince, San Jose. Will Smith.
[00:48:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: King Macklin and Puki Aroslav and William Eklund.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: He doesn't have a nickname. He's just Willie.
[00:48:22] Speaker A: I heard he has a nickname. Slippery Pete, this is.
[00:48:26] Speaker B: I thought it was.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: Who called?
[00:48:28] Speaker B: Someone calls him Daddy.
I saw that. I was like, what the fuck.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Is it, Mac? I think Walman calls Macklin puppy or something like that because of a Boss Mandelo song where it's like, she don't want a puppy, she want a big dog.
And since he's little, they call him puppy or something like that. I don't know. It's either him or Will Smith. But, yeah, that's the inside scoop that we have. The Sharks fans. So that's why you stick around. Listen to the end for the Sharks rant. But that wraps it up for this week.
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Always will Be.
We'll call out if we need to, but as of right now, there's really nothing to call out. If I gotta be honest. Maybe call out Couture, but even then, it's like, it's fine. We love you, Couture. You know what you did.
[00:49:30] Speaker B: Sure. He's done a lot for the franchise.
[00:49:32] Speaker A: Exactly. So it's like, you know, take your time. Take your time. We don't need. We don't, you know, love to see you play, but at the end of the day, do what's best for your Couture.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: Yeah, Everyone, like, forfeit your contract when you're done playing. That way we don't have to keep paying you $8 million.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: That too.
[00:49:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Please. You want to be a homer? That'd be.
[00:49:52] Speaker A: Or if you want to like, structured out to, like, 20 years. So we're only paying you, like a million a year or something like that contract.
Like a. Ken. Doesn't Ken Griffey Jr. Still get paid?
[00:50:07] Speaker B: I know there's one guy in baseball that's gonna get paid for, like, next 30 years.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know any baseball freaks out there. You can correct us, but correct us.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: There's somebody who's getting paid for, like, the next stupid amount of time because he's on a contract in, like, the 80s. He gets, like, a million dollars a year.
I've watched videos on this before. I just forget who the hell it was. Yeah, but sure. And Vlasic could do that.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: Splash. Free agency. There's going to be some big free agents this upcoming season.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. But we're your source for the entertainment news and the. The funny side of hockey, because that's what we are.
[00:50:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: We have fun with this. Hope you guys have fun with it. But cheers to a new year, everyone. Hope you guys are sticking to your goals or resolutions. Don't give up now if you're not doing dry January. Good for you.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: You said cheers.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: I did.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: I'm doing drunk January.
Drunk the whole time.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: That is what we. I know. Yeah, we're not doing that. Swear.
[00:51:18] Speaker B: I've been red this entire episode.
[00:51:20] Speaker A: It's because we're laughing and making fun of you. Look like Canada right now. All red.
[00:51:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: True. Yeah. We would never. The Grizzlies should never lose.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: Pause to Chechu real quick before we sign off. Thank you, Cheshia, for giving us one of the funniest jokes ever. You've now bounced Canada two years in a row. I know. They beat you back when. When Bedard was still on the team. But we appreciate you. We love you.
I think it's Michael Robble your goal. He's gonna be gross in the NHL.
What was his name? Stonsel. I forget you guys. You guys are gonna be nasty for years to come. Cool to see an up and coming hockey nation. Yeah. But most importantly, I love you, Cheshire. You're awesome.
[00:52:09] Speaker A: You're awesome. We love you.
And everyone listening, we love you as well. Again, subscribe.
[00:52:15] Speaker B: Not the Canadians.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah, no, we do love you guys. As much as we give you. If you're listening, we do love you. If you sat through it and you know, maybe you got a little angry, got a little red like Alan and your flag, that's okay. That's because you're passionate about hockey just like us. So if you did stick it out in your Canadian, ultimately, we do love you. But your team sucks. And we'll see you next week.
