Deep Dive into ACHA College Hockey with Justin Jones | Good Ol' Hockey Podcast Episode 42

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, everybody, welcome back to the good old Hockey podcast. Me and Galli are in the same room this time. We're in a studio sp studios here in Boise. And we've got another interview for you guys. Not Dustin Wolf, not NHL level, but it will be interesting. Galley rip off his resume. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Who is this guy? We got a very special guest today. He's one of my very good friends from college. He's a Boise native, Boise State hockey alumni. This guy's an absolute legend on Boise State campus. And a ladies man a little bit. With four full seasons under his belt. He's in the ACHA. He's got 143 points in 115 games. Very good at hockey. He lives in breeze hockey. He's gotten me into beer league. Shout out the hooligans. Back to back. Five v five champions. It's pretty good at predicting the overs and unders as well, but yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Justin Jones, aka Jay Jones, today. [00:00:57] Speaker C: Thanks for having me, boys. I can't. That was a crazy intro. I don't think I've ever gotten anything like that, but, um. Yeah. First off, just wanted to shout out the hooligans back to back gear champ again this year. I got moved at the deadline, so I didn't get a ring this year, but I was happy to see you get one. [00:01:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:01:14] Speaker C: Second one. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. So for all the viewers out there, Justin was, like, way too freaking good for B league hockey dominated. He was, like, beyond the Gretzky of B league hockey. So he got moved up to a. Unfortunately. We definitely miss him, but, yeah, we did. We still did win three v. Three. We did win five v. Five without him. We definitely miss you, Justin. But we still got his brother and his dad on the team, so. [00:01:38] Speaker C: Yeah. I didn't realize you guys won fall league, too. So you did go back to back in two different formats. It's pretty impressive, but, yeah, that was super fun. I mean, B league is pretty competitive, too. I just. It was cool playing with my dad and my brother for a couple years, so that was super sick. But, yeah. Boys, thanks for having me. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. Well, yeah, just starting out, you know, Justin's obviously a. I don't even know. I feel like I could call you so many different names. Jonesy or Justin or whatever, but he's a boise native. [00:02:06] Speaker C: I've always had a lot of names, you know? [00:02:08] Speaker B: What was it like growing up here in Boise? One. And then what was it like growing up kind of in a non traditional hockey market like Boise? Could you just touch on that a little bit, yeah. [00:02:18] Speaker C: So, like, to start growing up in Boise, I kind of grew up more just like a suburb. Meridian, obviously, eagle, they're all kind of come the same thing now, but it's definitely grown a lot, and it's a great place to grow up. I mean, you got the mountains, you got all the outdoor stuff, if you're into that. And there's a lot of good people in Boise, too, so had a really good time doing that. And, yeah, I guess non traditional hockey market. That's a good way to put it. There was always some really talented players, like, growing up. Plenty of guys who went on to go play major junior. Um, one. I remember Zach Walker. He was pretty big here. I think he was in 98. Went on to go play NTDP, Boston College, even play for the steelheads. Yep. Incredible hockey player. But, I mean, there's been plenty to be born here, grow up, go play somewhere. And I'd like to think that it's just going to keep growing. I'd like to think the game is growing. So, I mean, the market itself is growing. You look at states like California that have seen so many more good players come out of those states and more people playing hockey. So, uh, yeah, it's been pretty cool, but definitely, yeah, I was on the smaller side growing up. I remember, like, my high school just telling people I played hockey and is like, you know, not a lot of people knew a lot about the sport. I would say, like, the predominant sports in Boise are probably basketball, football, baseball are probably your top three. Lacrosse is going, but I'm, like, really happy to see the sport growing in Boise, especially the Boise state hockey club, I think, is gaining more traction. Yeah, that's been really cool to see, too. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome. [00:03:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like, I feel like Milamuk was not a Boise state steelheads legend in the early days. And then. Didn't his son play for them this year? Correct? [00:03:57] Speaker C: Connor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A pretty close friend of mine, him and his brother Luke. Luke is an zero one, so he's my age. I think Connor's a 2000, so they're pretty close birth year wise, but, yeah, I mean, their dad, Jeremy played for him growing up. He was a coach for, like, the junior seal heads program and just a great hockey mind, great person. And I think he's up at Coeur d'Alene now, running the hockey academy. But he had a pretty good career with the steelheads. I mean, he has his number retired and kelly cup champ twice, I think so. Once or twice, but really good coach, too. And the other, his sons. Connors definitely has a promising career in pro hockey. I mean, he can chuck them, he can score. And the craziest thing, he's, like the nicest guy ever. Like, you never think he's. He's so tough, but, like, one of the most respectful, nice people I know. And his brother Luke is another great dude. And I think he's finishing up one more year of college at Niagara and curious to see how, what he's going to do with his career. But, yeah, just what a hockey family, right? [00:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. I feel like it's kind of cool, you know, the Steelheads started in 1997, and you're starting to see these kids that grew up watching the Steelheads playing in the junior Steelheads and all that really go on to succeed at another level. So it's pretty cool. I feel like it definitely speaks a lot about how much hockey's grown here in Boise and Idaho in general. And it shows, like, definitely what a pro hockey team does, even at the ECHL level, too, like, a smaller city, like Boise. I mean, I feel like Boise was not on the map at all with hockey before that and, you know, after that. Not saying it is completely on the map, but, I mean, there's definitely players coming out of here, which I think is really cool. And I I can. I definitely agree. I think it's going to continue to, uh, see more players go on to the next level and stuff. Um, so I know a lot of our viewers might not know a lot about Idaho. Um, obviously you guys might know it's cold here, but did you ever play out? Do you ever play outdoor much around Boise? Elise? I know, like, in McCall, it's a lot more prominent. But, like, is there any good outdoor spots around here? [00:05:57] Speaker C: I mean, I can't think of, like, an actual outdoor rink in Boise. Really. It. I wouldn't say it's as cold here in the winter now, but growing up, you know, a lot of pond hockey around the area, especially before, like, where I grew up in, like, Meridian, it wasn't that, uh, it wasn't as big. So, like, there was a lot more land and, like, just places to actually go play pond hockey. But, um, no outdoor hockey in Idaho. I mean, there's a pretty nice outdoor rink in salmon, Idaho. That's a pretty small town back east. And. Yeah. Yeah, that was one we went to every year as a kid. And, like, core memories of just playing at that rink. And, like, I think they had, like, the chain link fence have you probably played. Oh, yeah, dude. [00:06:35] Speaker B: So, yeah, I grew up in Bozeman. Um, for people that. And we would go down to salmon and, yeah, that rink is very interesting. It's probably one of the most interesting rinks in the west coast. Um, maybe even the country, just cause, like, yeah, there's chain link fences. But I remember playing there in high school one time, and the whole town showed up. Cause it's a small town. What else are you gonna do in salmon, Idaho? In the winter, especially. I mean, I feel like in the summer, go on the river and fish and stuff, and I. Maybe in the fall you hunt, but in the winter, it's like, I feel, like, not too much else to do there. So the whole town showed up. Um, we ended up barely winning, like, seven to six. But I remember, like, you could hear everything everyone was saying around the rink. And, like, two of our players got ejected. Um, one of our players, like, left the ice flipping off, like, double birds to the whole town of salmon. And, like, the. The locker rooms are not, like, very secluded either. It's like someone could totally just come and jump our whole team. So I was a little bit scared, but, yeah, dude, salmon, definitely. Definitely some core memories. It was cool playing there at night. Cause they got the lights shining down and stuff. But in the morning, I don't know. Did you ever play there in the morning? [00:07:44] Speaker C: Maybe so. I always did most of my playing up there, like, when I was probably squirt pee wee age. So, like, my memories are a little different than, like, someone do a double bird to the crowd. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:55] Speaker C: Like, half the kids out there were falling down and complaining. Cause they're so cold. But no, like, what a sick place. I would have loved to play, like, a game in, like, high school or college. Yeah, I think that'd be cool. [00:08:05] Speaker B: I was. I was too dust to play anywhere else. So I ended up playing my high school hockey in salmon, Idaho, but never playing. [00:08:12] Speaker A: What's that one blank on the name? [00:08:16] Speaker B: Stanley. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Stanley? [00:08:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Have you been to that one? [00:08:18] Speaker C: Oh, no, I've heard about that one. I see it every year on, like, Facebook. I'll see. It's, like, in an event. And I don't know. I've never made the trek up there. But it's weird because they don't have. It's not like a rink up there. They just have a couple sheets on maybe. I don't know where they do it, but they just clear the snow. And I think they play, like, the mini net version, too. [00:08:37] Speaker A: Yeah, they do like the. With the wood like, little holes on the bottom, too. [00:08:42] Speaker C: Yeah, they do it. [00:08:43] Speaker A: You got to shoot it in there. So it's not like a traditional, like, OdR, but, yeah, the scenery. [00:08:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Stanley, favorite place to go, like, growing up, we'd go camp there all the time, and it's awesome. [00:08:52] Speaker B: True. [00:08:52] Speaker C: Never been there in the winter, but it gets cold. I think it's actually the coldest place in the continental us. Like, annually. Annually. Base temperature. Yeah, I mean, it gets pretty in the winter. [00:09:03] Speaker A: It's like people can't even live there in the wintertime because it's so bad. [00:09:07] Speaker C: Almost burned down, too. There's a big fire going on. [00:09:10] Speaker B: I saw that. Stanley's sweet, though. I mean, just, like, the sawtooth mountains are, like, some of the most beautiful mountains, I think, in the country, and it's definitely a gem, a secret gem of Idaho I feel like not a lot of people know about. [00:09:21] Speaker C: So don't go there. Yeah, don't. [00:09:23] Speaker B: Yeah, don't go there. It's actually a very bad place. You're gonna get attacked by grizzly bears and everything. So. [00:09:28] Speaker A: High crime rate out there. [00:09:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:29] Speaker C: Sharks in the rivers. [00:09:30] Speaker B: Yeah, very high crime rate. [00:09:33] Speaker C: Steal your cattle. Yeah. [00:09:35] Speaker B: Just transitioning back to, you know, growing up here and playing, was there any, like, influences or coaches that you remember that really just affected you today or affected your play or is there anyone you'd like to shout out or. [00:09:47] Speaker C: I mean. Yeah, shout out to all my coaches I had in hockey. I mean, they were all beauties, and a lot of them, a couple of them, we played for the steelheads. Right. So that was pretty good, getting, like, just their view on the game and helping me out. But, I mean, Millemach, for sure, as a little kid, he was very insightful. Just had so much respect for him. But I think one that definitely sticks out is John Howell. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:10] Speaker C: My good buddy Jackson Howell. His son is actually going to be a freshman at Boise State this year, and he's. He's actually moving into my room I'm moving out of right now, and he's gonna play on the hockey team. He played a little bit of juniors for, like, the Idaho falls spud kings and, I think, the Provo Predators. But I think he. He's got a good hockey career ahead of him. And his dad leave. He's from Edina and coached me from probably, like, squirts and peewees, and, I mean, pushed me harder than most of my coaches in hockey, just in terms. He's a very intense guy. He's a lawyer. Great guy, but just, he used to have this hat. Like he'd always wear a hat to every game and by the second period it would be just in his hand being folded like a taco. Like he just abused that poor thing. And I just. Vivid memories of being on the ice and he's just yelling at me to move my feet and looking back. It's like, you always hate being yelled at by a coach, but the coaches that push you like that and always want to see the best out of you are definitely the most important. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:11:13] Speaker C: You know, they're not going to sit back and watch you take a night off and. Yeah. Just a great person, still really close with his son and I'm excited to see what his kid does for boys State because he's a hell of a player. [00:11:23] Speaker B: That's sweet. Yeah, I feel like there's some shitty. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Not shitty, but there was a coach one time that said I skate like Woody. You know how like Woody in toy Story. [00:11:32] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:11:34] Speaker A: I was like, okay, dude. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Dude, I feel like there's not enough coaches like that anymore. I feel like it's diminishing the amount of coaches that are, I think also. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Like, I mean, we see that with Daryl Sutter. Like he very hard style coach. But if you're not winning, you can't do that. Like, players are just fuck off, dude. [00:11:52] Speaker B: But especially in the NHL now too. Yeah. [00:11:53] Speaker A: If you're winning you can say whatever you want, but the minute that you start losing, you're. You're canned. [00:11:58] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I know, I. Dude, I had a coach one time we tied this team and it was not a very good team at all. It's freaking Montana hockey, too. And it was like, it was like Bozeman and Missoula and like Billings were probably like the best teams. And we tied like this team from Glasgow which is like a town of like 2000 people. Anyways, the coach like just went into the locker room and basically was like, yeah, get all your warm up gear on, meet me in the parking lot. And like, I remember the opposing team was coming out and watching us like, what the hell? And we just did dry land training for like an hour straight after the game. It was brutal. But like, I just feel like that's not happening anymore. I feel like parents would get mad, kids would get mad, they wouldn't fly. And I feel like, especially like in Montana and Idaho. I don't know if you ever, I mean, you might have been one of the people, but like, you know, when the hockey's not good enough, you'll move to another city or move to another town, which, shit, I guess we could just transition into that, you know? I guess. What was. What made you move to Coeur d'Alene? I know you went to Coeur d'Alene academy, but could you just talk about that when you did that and stuff? [00:13:04] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. So kind of like we talked about with Boise being a small hockey market, um, the routes, I guess if you want to just play hockey here, is you play either double a or single a or b or something like that, or you play high school, and at some point you either, you know, call it a career. I mean, if you're good enough, I guess, you know, travel for, like, Boise state club hockey or something like that if you want to go to college. But, um, my whole life, I would say it was very sport oriented. So my dad always toyed with the idea of, like, you know, moving away from home to go play, because you just really can't pursue hockey like that if you stay here. And my brother actually, he's. I mean, you know, DJ, he's older than me, so he's 99. He moved out to Omaha, Nebraska, to go play Omaha aaa there. And that was kind of my first experience, you know, having someone really close to me go out and do something like that and play at such a high level, like, tier one hockey. And, I mean, just guys before him, you just noticed, like, they were really good and had potential. They would always be taken off somewhere to go play. So, yeah, you know, Colorado Thunderbirds, that was a big one. Had a really close friend of mine growing up, John Driscoll, he went out and played there, and I thought about the idea. It's a great program he's playing at. He transferred to Sacred Heart, I want to say, but he was playing at army, and, I mean, he played us. Hl, really good player. [00:14:23] Speaker B: That's sweet. [00:14:23] Speaker C: Um, but, I mean, there's been so many guys here that have been just great at hockey to go on and play elsewhere, because you kind of have to, right? [00:14:29] Speaker B: So, yeah, 100%. [00:14:31] Speaker C: I ended up. I wanted to kind of move away my freshman year, but I, you know, as I got into high school, I, you know, was like, well, I play football and baseball, too, and I have a lot of friends, so it was like, it's pretty hard to just say, I'm going to pack up and leave just to go play. So my sophomore year, I ended up making the decision to stay somewhat close to home and go to Coeur d'Alene. And I. I had a couple friends from here, too, Camden gallagher, who I played with at boise state, went up there and played two years. [00:14:55] Speaker B: The other galley. [00:14:56] Speaker C: The other galley, right. Who I live with. Yeah. Great guy. [00:15:01] Speaker B: Great guy. [00:15:01] Speaker C: Hell of a hockey player, too. So we moved up there for a little bit. I actually moved up there with my mom. We had an apartment up there and. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Nice. [00:15:08] Speaker C: A lot of people bill it, right. You live with the host family, and I just. I don't know if I wasn't ready for it, but if I could go back in time, I definitely would have done it because I think it would have been crazy just to really be on your own and take care of yourself at such a young age. I mean, that's how you mature quick, and it was awesome. Have my mom up there, too, because she's one of my biggest supporters. But, yeah, I played a year up there and we went all over western Canada playing in the CSS. HL. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Nice. [00:15:30] Speaker C: There's been so many great names that come out of that league. Like Bedard, specifically. Damn handfuls of NHL players and great players. And, I mean, it was a trip. I mean, you got to see what that high level of hockey was like, especially the canadian version. And, I mean, it's definitely an eye opening experience, too, because you watch those prep teams play and there's just some kids out there that are just dominating, especially at, like, a young age. Yeah, I'm playing against 18 year olds and stuff, and, yeah, it was a great experience. I just think part of me was always, like, a little homesick and definitely, I always, you know, I play other sports, too, so, you know, seeing all my friends, like, still playing football and, I mean, having friends back home, I was like, I'm kind of missing out on that part of my life. But, like, looking back, especially after, you know, playing hockey only in college, I mean, if I could go back in time, I probably would have just stayed playing hockey because, I mean, you look back on, like, high school, it's really. [00:16:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:21] Speaker C: Like, what you do then it's important in making memories. But, I mean, if you have a career opportunity with the sport to follow that no matter where it takes you, I think you should do that. I just feel like part of me always maybe just didn't have that ultimate drive to just like, oh, I'm going to the league. Like, I want to be a hockey player. It was always like, I enjoyed hockey, but, I mean, there are other aspects of my life that, you know, made it harder to just, like, totally focus on it. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I noticed that with, we were talking to Dustin. We had asked him a question, like, what would you do if you didn't play hockey? Like, what would be your career path if you didn't choose to go to the NHL? And he was like, honestly, like, I didn't really think of anything else as a kid. [00:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:59] Speaker A: And that, like, clicked for me, and I was like, oh, that's like, I mean, not all that it takes, but your drive and everything is a huge reason into how far you play. And, like, I never really had that. And, you know, people always think, like, oh, you're just bad at hockey, but there's, like, so much of, like, drive that goes into it. [00:17:18] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:17:19] Speaker A: It's tough. Yeah. [00:17:20] Speaker B: So you probably went across the border a lot when you're playing up there. What was that like? Did you have, like, an express pass or anything? Or. [00:17:28] Speaker C: I mean. No. You got a passport? I mean, I think the funny thing is, is we'd always. We had just the most rinky dink bus in Coeur d'alene. It was. It was like one of those, like, class C motorhome type buses. You know, I'm talking about. Looks kind of like a school bus, but it's got, like, extended cab. [00:17:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:44] Speaker C: So it fits probably, like, yeah, 1516 people instead of, like, you know, your typical sleeper bus. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:17:48] Speaker C: I mean, so it was funny because we go over Canada and they would just, for some reason, be searching it, like, just up and down and. Yeah, the border. But I mean, just. What a place you go to. So many cool places. I mean, there's a good prep school called Shonegan Lake School up in Victoria, and taking the ferry out to the island from Vancouver and just some cool places. That's got to be one of my favorites. [00:18:13] Speaker B: But Victoria's sick. [00:18:14] Speaker C: Victoria's cool. [00:18:15] Speaker B: It's underrated. Yeah, it's underrated compared to Vancouver. I like it better than Vancouver. [00:18:19] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting city, too, but Victoria is a sick. I wouldn't live in there, honestly. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Like, yeah, it's like, doesn't get cold. [00:18:28] Speaker C: It's like, no, it's not bad. Yeah, it's a great climate, great place. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Do you go, like, up north? Way up north at all? [00:18:34] Speaker C: North I've been is probably Calgary. [00:18:37] Speaker B: Really? [00:18:37] Speaker C: Yeah. So we went to Calgary. Go flames. Go flames. I was actually a Flames fan growing up. Jerome McGinla was my inspiration to wear number twelve. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:18:45] Speaker C: Die hard. Again, the fan had an aginla fat head in my room, and I was originally a Flames fan, but my parents lived in Santa Clara for a little bit, and they had season tickets to the Sharks. So then I kind of would always watch Sharks games with my dad. And the Flames were pretty bad for a while. [00:19:03] Speaker B: They still kind of are, unfortunately. [00:19:05] Speaker C: But I mean, the Sharks, looking back, like, my dad was a diehard Sharks fan, and you had Patty Marlowe, you had Joe Thornton, and like, even Pavelski and guys like Jonathan Chichu, who a lot of people don't remember. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Chi Chi was lit. [00:19:17] Speaker C: He just lit it up for a couple of years. And, I mean, Nabokov, they just had such a good run for, like, over a decade and could just never get it done. [00:19:26] Speaker B: I know. Thought they thought they were going to do it when they went to the finals. I want to say, when was I anymore? [00:19:33] Speaker C: Yeah. And I know you're Sharks fan, so I just remember that that year was tough for me because I'm a Carolina Panthers fan, too, so I had to watch the Panthers lose the Super bowl, and then later I watched the sharks. Yeah. Lose the Stanley cup, and I was just heartbroken. I was always just like a Crosby hater growing up because he was so good and, like, I didn't like the Penguins and, I mean, they just, they could just never get it done. And it was, yeah, hopefully someday. I mean, bright future William Eckland, they have a lot of good prospects, but it is a tough trophy to win. And you look at Florida this year and not surprising they won. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:08] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. I know. With a bunch of ex flames players, just breaks my heart, man. [00:20:13] Speaker C: I was probably. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Did you, do you think TG enlo was going to go to the Flames Tiege? [00:20:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I. Sometimes on YouTube, I'll see, like, people post these videos of, like, it's like, youth hockey, but I think I watched a couple of Tiege Ginland. He played in the WHL this year. Yeah, right there, too. But I'd known him about him for a while and, I mean, he's. He's got so much skill, and I was thinking, yeah, I'd be sick for him to go to the flames, but you gotta remind me, who'd he get drafted to? [00:20:37] Speaker B: Utah. [00:20:37] Speaker C: Oh, he's going to Utah. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:39] Speaker C: Wow. I mean, honestly, that's going to be an interesting. [00:20:42] Speaker B: He's going to be, like, their cornerstone of their franchise. [00:20:44] Speaker C: Like, but he went, like, top ten, I'd assume. [00:20:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he went six overall. I mean, we both went to the draft and, yeah, it was, it was heartbreaking to see TJ again, like, get drafted to Utah. I was like, oh, my gosh. But the Flames got correct, so I'm happy with it. I'm happy with the Flames draft, but just going back to playing in Canada, was there a big jump in the skill level playing, you know, obviously, I mean, I'm sure. Yes, there is, but could you just touch on, um, what it was like playing in Canada versus playing in Idaho your whole life? [00:21:16] Speaker C: Yeah. So, I mean, when I moved up there, I think, let's see, this is 2016. I had just turned 15, and you had. At the time it was varsity and you had prep. And prep, I think it goes all the way to 18 is your age out year. But prep was like, the highest level. And I played varsity my whole time up there, and I always knew, like, I was probably good enough to play prep. I was just first year on the team and still kind of getting adjusted to that style of game. But I. Varsity, I would compare it to, like, like, lower end triple a teams at the time, like in the states. And, I mean, it was great hockey, especially some of those, like, notable schools, like, shone again and pursuit of excellence was always a good one. But, like, our varsity team, we hung in there. We lost in the semifinal that year to pursue pursuit of excellence. And, I mean, they were just stacked. But, I mean, we had a good team, too. We were kind of like underdogs going into every game. And I think part of it is we were the only american team in the league and we were new. So, like, I think a lot of these canadian teams really looked forward to playing us because they wanted to smoke us, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, we hung in there and our prep team my first year was, I want to say they're bottom two in the league. They just were struggling. But I never got the call up to prep, even though at the time. You guys know Rob Dumas used to play for the Steelheads? Oh, yeah, yeah. So he was actually the. I think he was the hockey ops guy up there at the time and he was coaching a lot of our, like, varsity games. And the next year, he really wanted me to go back. But I mean, just talking about the league itself, sometimes I'd watch these prep games and, like, playoffs and watch all these guys who are WHL drafted and I mean, probably some that were NHL drafted. The biggest name that sticks out that I remember when I played up there was Massimo Rizzo, who plays on DU. Yeah, he won the player of the year award and I think he had to be probably 16 or maybe my agent time, but he won it for the Prep league. And I mean, that's playing against 18 year olds, so I mean, that speaks. Speaks volumes, like, how good some of these kids were. Especially, like, if you can be young and dominate against all these older kids. But, I mean, it's a. It's a heck of a league, and it's definitely growing with just the people that are coming out of it, especially, like, bedard and stuff like that. I mean, so many good players. But it was. It was crazy, because, I mean, I only played double A, and I'd gone to, like, development camps for, like, USA hockey. You know, they take the best kids out of each state, and you go there and you get a feel for, like, oh, some of these kids are really good. Some are, like, from other states, like, new Mexico or, like, smaller hockey markets, kind of, like, okay, you know, like, single AAA kind of players. But that was my first experience at high level hockey, and I got so much better because you practice every day. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:46] Speaker C: And you work out, and you have all the resources, and, I mean, when I came back the next year to play in Double A again, I just felt like my skating was just, like, big time. It just increased so much. I mean, um, you just. You get in such good shape, too. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah. There was a. I remember I used to go up to a hockey camp every year in the summer, uh, as a skating camp out of coeur d'alene. Boris dorizenko. I don't know if that rings a bell. [00:24:09] Speaker C: I know his name. [00:24:10] Speaker B: He was austin matthews skating coach at the time. It was. This is before austin matthews was in the NHL, and he was always, like, reaming us, like, I'm gonna. I'm coaching the next NHL number one draft pick, austin matthews. Remember that name? I'm like, never, never forget about that. But I remember as this russian dude, and he wouldn't let us touch pucks for the whole first week. It was like, a two week camp. Wouldn't let us touch pucks for the whole first week. But that was. I don't know. That was kind of my experience playing in coeur d'alene, ever. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Was he from coeur d'alene, or was he. [00:24:38] Speaker B: No, he was from Russia. And he would bring. Bring russians over all the time. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Like, he was training matthews, so he, like. [00:24:45] Speaker B: So he lived in arizona. That's where I think that. Or somewhere down there. And he, like, he would get. I don't really know, too much of their connection story, but I remember, like, would always, like, on. On camp posters and stuff, would always have Austin Matthews. But, like, at the time, he was only really known in, like, american hockey. Maybe a little bit and, you know, scouting eyes and stuff, but it was pretty cool. I mean, they have a. They have a decent rank up there, I guess. [00:25:16] Speaker C: Talking about frontier ice arena. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:25:18] Speaker C: Oh, I love that ring. Yeah, that was a good one. Gosh, I haven't been up to Coraline in a while, but I want to touch on Austin Matthews. I mean, you think about him. He's from Arizona. [00:25:27] Speaker B: I know. [00:25:27] Speaker C: Think about hockey market. That probably used to be 20 years ago. [00:25:31] Speaker B: I know. [00:25:31] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, yeah, they had the coyotes, but I mean, crazy. [00:25:34] Speaker A: It's just weren't. [00:25:35] Speaker C: Yeah, it's insane where these incredible hockey players are turning up from now. Like, yeah, I. It's just the game is growing and I think it's awesome. [00:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially, like, in the western us. I feel like we're starting to see a lot of players that are coming out of markets that, you know, these NHL teams started out 20 something years ago. And it's. I feel like it's going to continually get bigger. And I know we're going to touch on it a little bit later in this podcast, but I mean, college hockey, I feel like, is going to really start growing out here. But just going back to Coeur d'Alene, is there. Would you say that semifinal game was like your most memorable moment while you were playing there, or is there any moments that really stick out to you? [00:26:17] Speaker C: I would say for me, a big part of me, I was homesick when I was up there. Obviously, I loved hockey, but when you're that young, some players, he talked about Dustin Wolf. He always knew he was going to be a hockey player. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:30] Speaker C: But for me, as someone who was always toying with the idea of just not wanting it as much as I should have, I always was kind of, like, thinking my mind was kind of elsewhere. But, like, so, like, when I think about the games, it's weird because, like, you have some players that can tell you every detail of, like, any game of their career. Like, you watch Gretzky talk and he was like, you can explain an entire game and, like, any goal he scored or anything like that. And, like, I'll look at, like, my. Try to remember some of the things I did up there and we played like 30 games in a year. And I. I can remember, like, certain moments, but, like, I think part of it is, like, I only remember certain things. Cause, like, I wasn't fully in it. Right. So I remember, like, certain goals or certain moments and, like, honestly, a lot of the most memorable things happened off the ice. [00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:13] Speaker C: Right. Which is like, the cool thing about hockey is just the boys, definitely, but I mean, in terms of, like, on ice stuff, I mean, we actually had this coach, Brad Lukovich, shout out, Brad, if you ever listen to this. But he won a. I think he won two standing cups with the Devils and the stars. And, I mean, he was a heck of a coach, but he had a little bit of a temper on him. And I remember in, like, one of our first games of the year, I forget who we were playing, but I think the other team's coach started saying something, and when there's kind of like a chirping match on the benches, and then after the game, like, I think we lost and it was at home in Coeur d'Alene. We were kind of all walking, skating off the ice and kind of just turned my head and I just see this tie flapping around and I see Brad Lukowitz going, trying to chase down the other team. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Yeah, he's a fired up guy, but he also, he scrapped a lot in the NHL, so, I mean, great person, awesome guy. And Coeur d'Alene is not a bad. [00:28:13] Speaker B: Place to chill out after your career place. [00:28:16] Speaker C: I mean, that program has grown so much, too. I've just kind of watched him and it's in really good hands now with Jeremy milmock running it, but that's sweet. Yeah. So, Brad, that was always fun, seeing him kind of lose it a little bit. But I mean, looking back. Yeah, you can really think about all these memories. Like, I'm looking at just thinking about it now and, I mean, yeah, it was just a great time in my life, but it was so short. Like, I was only up there for, like, seven months. [00:28:41] Speaker B: True. So going to non hockey stuff. What other sports did you play growing up? [00:28:45] Speaker C: Oh, so I started out really young playing soccer, basketball, hockey, football, baseball. Those were like my main five and then narrowed it down to. In high school, I was playing baseball, football, hockey, and loved baseball. My dad was always my coach growing up, and he was. He was a great coach. Always pushed me to try really hard, but, like, super dedicated to baseball. I play a lot of catcher and just loved hitting the ball. Like, that's a fun sport. I still watch a lot of baseball and football. Played wide receiver and, like, growing up, played a couple different positions, but in high school I played wide receiver and that's a different thing. Like, I. It's really nice playing for, like, your hometown. I'm sure you could say the same thing growing up in Montana. Like, a lot of people will come to the games. Oh, yeah. And, like, it just felt like for football, people really care and boise about it. And I think I went to the second biggest high school behind Mountain View, which I went to Rocky Mountain. [00:29:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:36] Speaker C: And, yeah, my senior year, we just had a stacked team, a couple guys who want to play division one, and we went twelve and. Oh, and state championship on the blue turf. [00:29:46] Speaker B: That's sweet. [00:29:47] Speaker C: Yeah, we primarily ran the ball. We had a stud running back, Nick Romano. He wanted to go to U of I and he got a full ride up there. And that's super sick. Yeah, I mean, I held my own. I was always, like. I always had a lot of confidence myself and I try. I put more effort into, like, football, like, trying to be, like, a starter, like, my senior year. [00:30:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:04] Speaker C: Then I feel like hockey at times just because, like, I mean, the thing with hockey, I always felt like I was a lot better at hockey in terms of natural, maybe talent or just like, the work I had put in my whole life. I was always on the ice a lot and it just. The game kind of came to me naturally. But with, like, football, even at, like, a high school level, at, like, a big school, I mean, you feel like your job is always, like, on the line. [00:30:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:25] Speaker C: There's always a kid who might be younger than you or you're competing with someone in your grade who's. Yeah, I mean, a big school, too. There's so many kids that. Trying for the same spot. So I just pushed myself really hard in the weight room that year and I just. I really worked hard and, I mean, I had a pretty good year, but we ran the ball a lot. And the crazy thing about, like, our team is we just, like, spread the ball so much to so many different players, like, throwing wise, like, yeah, no one was really, like, the star wide receiver. Besides, our running back just carried us a lot. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Dude, football is like, king in the us. Yeah, obviously. [00:30:56] Speaker C: I mean, people. [00:30:56] Speaker B: I mean, every. Any state. Every state, yeah. I mean, maybe Minnesota, you could make a argument for hockey is a little bit bigger and basketball in some states, but, I mean, football is always going to take the crown for most popular and in the city and high school and everything. And I totally feel you on that. I went to Bozeman High and it was way too big of a high school and football was huge there. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Oh, I'm sure. [00:31:17] Speaker B: Super competitive. Um, like, will Disley came out of Bozeman High, tight end for the Seahawks or I don't know where he's tight end now for, but, uh, yeah, I mean, I totally feel you on that. [00:31:28] Speaker C: Yeah. And, like, you. You look at, like, that rivalry between the grizz and the Bobcats. [00:31:32] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:31:32] Speaker C: They had college game day go there this year. And that place. Most of those, like, sell out. Like, those fans are so loyal for those. Those teams. And, like, I feel like part of me was just, like, I always liked the limelight with, like, the sport. Like, I wanted to play football a lot, too. And, like, yeah. You know, be known for it. And, you know, all the. Obviously, there's a lot of people coming to those games and cheering you on, but you look back at the time, it's like, that's what you care about. But then you look at, like, well, if you pursue hockey, if it's something like, you really want to do and you set your mind to it, you know, you might be playing junior hockey in a town of, like, a couple hundred people. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker C: Even though it's high level. Like, I mean, in the end, you could end up playing division one in front of, like, a sold out, you know? [00:32:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:10] Speaker C: Or even pro. And, like, that's the bigger picture that I think I always struggled with as a kid because I was just kind of, like, I was always, like, in the moment for, like, what I cared about. And, I mean, some guys are just like, I don't care where I play. I'm going pro one day or going to NHL. [00:32:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:24] Speaker C: And it's not about, like, how many people are coming to those games. It's just because they want to play hockey. Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So what was that like, coming. I know you said football was kind of your main focus senior year, but what was that like? Did you ever consider playing juniors or did you ever want to go to another college? But what was kind of that outlook when you got out of high school. [00:32:43] Speaker C: Looking like, yeah, so, I mean, so let's see. I went to Coeur d'Alene as a sophomore, and then I came back, played Double A, had a really good time. When I came back, we had a good team. We went on to double a nationals for, I think, the division three double A. So, like, it's based on population. [00:32:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:57] Speaker C: So we were, like, we were planning. It's the smaller states. Right. And. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Yeah, Montana's in that. [00:33:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. And we ended up losing in the national championship game to delaware. And this was in green Bay, Wisconsin. Also, shout out my girlfriend. She's from Wisconsin, big Packers fan, so shout her out if you listen to this. Love you. [00:33:17] Speaker B: Aw. [00:33:18] Speaker C: But, um, no, so that was a trip. But unfortunately, in that game, we ended up blowing a five one lead and lost seven to six. And that was the second. [00:33:27] Speaker B: That's brutal, dude. [00:33:28] Speaker C: That was the second national title game I ever lost. Cause when I was in my 14 year, we had nationals in Salt Lake, and we lost to the Portland winter Hawks in overtime. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Kid went. [00:33:37] Speaker C: Scored three two. Um. [00:33:39] Speaker B: That's heartbreaking. [00:33:40] Speaker C: Yeah, my. My buddy was talking about John Driscoll. Plays for my base, Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart, yeah. Sorry. I think he had both our goals in that game, but just tough. [00:33:51] Speaker B: Cause that's so tough to lose the. [00:33:53] Speaker C: One and then battle all the way back four years later, and it's like, it's a national championship. It doesn't matter if it's, you know, for the smaller states, but that was probably the most heartbreaking moment of my hockey sports career. Damn, dude did have two goals in that game. [00:34:07] Speaker B: That's so tough. [00:34:08] Speaker C: But, like, I just remember, like, after the game, like, they're taking. They're handing out medals and stuff, and they want, like, an individual picture of you with your medal. And, you know, I had my silver medal, and just in the picture, I'm just sobbing my eyes out. I can't even look at. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Dude. [00:34:21] Speaker C: Just destroyed. [00:34:23] Speaker B: That was. [00:34:23] Speaker A: Pictures sucked. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that was the worst. Like, I remember parents would always want to take pictures of the second place trophy or the, like, you know, second place medal, and you're just, like, destroyed. I remember, like, now looking back on those photos, I like, it's kind of funny. It's like, oh, my God, look at. Look at how pissed I was. And I like, it, like, hits me. I'm like. I remember how pissed I was. [00:34:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it makes you mad thinking about, though, right? Like, I've always been a person to, like, hate win or hate losing more than I enjoy winning. Yeah. Like, and it could be in, like, different aspects of life, but to touch back on that second national loss, that was. I played on my brother or played with my brother that year, too. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Oh, that's sweet. [00:35:00] Speaker C: That was cool. We went all the way playing together. We never really got to play together that much, but to touch on that. So we had, like, the early game that day, and then they had, like, division two double a championship, then division one. So we watched both games because we had a late flight. And I never forget, like, the division two game, forget who was playing. But this video went viral of this kid getting his silver medal, and he just chucks it in the crowd, like, with my own two eyes. And then I got posted everywhere. And, like, I mean, I don't think you should ever do that? But it was pretty funny. Watch that. Yeah, that's some kid for Sweden, I'm pretty sure did that. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Crazy. Oh, yeah. [00:35:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:38] Speaker C: But I remember watching, like, the division one double A championship. That that game, too, is. It was basically this club team that was all kids from Michigan that played, like, high school. And obviously high school is pretty competitive. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:49] Speaker C: But definitely all had different color buckets and stuff, and, like, they were just disgusting. Like, they won for who they played. But, I mean, you look at, like, double a, best double a team from Michigan compared to, like, our game, Delaware and Idaho. I mean, leaps and bounds, difference in skill. Like, those kids are out. [00:36:03] Speaker B: Big ten insane stuff. So, yeah. Going back to your decision to play, you know, hockey at Boise State, what was that like? Like I said, did you. Do you ever consider juniors, or do you ever consider not just hanging the skates up, or do you ever consider going to another place besides Boise State, too? Because I know a lot of Boise kids go to u of I, so. [00:36:24] Speaker C: Yeah, so, I mean, like, my senior year, I, like, thought about, maybe I'll go play, like, a small school football. Like, Montana Western was, like, a school I looked at, like, well, go dogs. I really want to go live in, like, a small town and just play football where maybe I won't start. And then I always knew Boise State had, like, a club team. I didn't really know what club hockey was in college at the time. [00:36:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:40] Speaker C: But I was, like, looking at their record, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, this seems nasty. Like, they dominate. And so I was like, shoot, I might as well just go there and state tuition. But in terms of, like, junior hockey, when I move back, obviously, we know hockey costs a lot of money no. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Matter where you play or big time. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:56] Speaker C: So it's like, if I were to go play juniors, I'd probably have to go play, like, na three or somewhere where you're actually paying money to play, because, like, the big name juniors, like, USHL, they pay for it. Even the null shout out to Vietnam. I never played in it, but I've played in it. What a league. Especially my roommate Camden, he played in it for Dawson Bruins in Minnesota. But my parents were always kind of like, you know, you went to coeur d'Alene, didn't work out. We don't really want to pay for this. You go play junior and. Yeah, you know, who knows? Like, you know, start college late. But I always thought about it, but I never really had, like, the biggest desire to go play, but looking back, I probably would have, because I would have been a crazy experience. And some guys, they're late bloomers, or maybe they find their passion for the game a little late, I'd say. I always had that passion. But some guys, you know, they start out in lower level junior, and they work their way up to the show. So, yeah, I always thought about it, but in terms of Boise State, I mean, I remember sitting in math class my senior year, and I was like, pretty 90% sure I'm going to Boise State. And I think I enrolled already, too. And, like, looking at the record, I'm like, you know, they're playing all these teams. I see Boise state football play. [00:37:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:59] Speaker C: So I was curious, like, that, what that talent level would be like or what that would be like at all. And, you know, nothing. It's not division one, but I was like, I still want to play hockey, right? [00:38:07] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [00:38:08] Speaker C: And so I went to the spring evaluation camp in March of my senior year, and they. The coaches at the time were Lloyd Ayers and Todd Cunningham, and they're both locals who, I think their sons both had played for the team. [00:38:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:22] Speaker C: And. Sorry, what are you gonna say? [00:38:24] Speaker A: The goalie, Kyler Ayers. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, he's phenomenal goalie. Great person, too. But his dad, lloyd, was the head coach and went to the camp and had a good camp, and they're like, yeah, we, like, we saw from you, like, you know, stay in shape and come out in August and try out. And so school came around, and I was still living at home as a freshman, which that's, like, another thing I do regret, living at home as a freshman. College, if you have a chance to, like, move into the dorms, no matter if you're from the area, I think it's important to really, like, get out of the house. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:50] Speaker C: So I didn't get to do that until my sophomore year, but, yeah, tried out for the team in August, made the team, and I had my first action of Acha hockey in Bellingham, Washington. We played the western Washington Vikings, and, I mean, yeah, it was from there. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah. What was your first year like? [00:39:10] Speaker C: It was pretty fun. I'd say we traveled quite a bit. Like, we went to Bismarck, North Dakota. We went to Phoenix or Tempe. Sorry to go play, like, Arizona State's club team, but it was a blast. Like, sometimes those games would be so high level, and I played with my linemates at the time were Eric Pinsky, who's, like, the all time leader in boy state points. He play. He's from San Jose. I don't know if you know him, right. [00:39:30] Speaker A: I know him. He used to coach my brother. [00:39:32] Speaker C: Yeah. So he's working as a video tech for, I think, the easing, the Sharks organization. But he's barracuda. I think he's Barracuda. Right. Is a sweet. [00:39:40] Speaker A: My old coach, Nick, he's, I think, the video director for San Jose. [00:39:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:44] Speaker A: And him and Pinsky were always super close. [00:39:46] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like he flew out. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Nick flew out for Penske's graduation. [00:39:50] Speaker C: Yeah, that would make sense. Hell of a player. But, like, playing with, like, the older guys at the time, you're so young as a freshman, you're like, oh, I have a couple more years of this. Like, yeah, more just, like, enjoying it at first, but, like, I always. I mean, I kind of found my passion for hockey once I got to college again. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:05] Speaker B: Really? [00:40:05] Speaker C: Like, I never enjoyed the game as much as I did playing for Boise State. [00:40:09] Speaker B: That's sweet. [00:40:09] Speaker C: And, like, there. There were some times where it was the funnest times I ever had playing hockey, like, both off the ice and on the ice, and it was awesome. Like, I look back on it, and there's so many memories that I just couldn't trade for anything. So that's. Freshman year was pretty. Just like an entry level, and then Covid came around, obviously shut everything down. But my freshman year, we went on to our division at the. Our conference at the time was the pack eight, so, like, the Pac twelve. So we played Oregon in the final, and, I mean, they were a hell of a team. They beat us. Think three and three nothing in the final. And, I mean, they had guys who probably could have played d three and stuff. [00:40:42] Speaker B: Like, damn, that's sweet. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Yeah, they're really good teams. That was fun. And that was my freshman year. I had a pretty good year. Played first line, right wing, and had. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Probably damn freshman year, first line. [00:40:53] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, I think at the time, like, I don't know. Like, I always had a lot of confidence myself as a player, but, like, I adjusted well to that level. And, I mean, there's some. It's a physical league, really. I mean, it can be a long show at times. Obviously, there's no fighting, but there are guys out there, like, trying to take your head off. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:10] Speaker C: Yeah. It was like. Like, welcome to the league. It was fun, but I'd say the culture on the team my freshman year was entirely different than the culture when I finished playing at boys. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Really? [00:41:22] Speaker C: Oh, it completely changed. [00:41:24] Speaker B: Like, for the better. [00:41:24] Speaker C: For the better. I mean, yeah. For the worse, I'd say record wise, like, pretty similar to my freshman year, like, how we ended up. But, like, I'd say as my time went on in college, the team became a lot closer because my freshman year, like, we would all hang out, but it didn't seem like the tightest knit group of guys. And then as time went on, like, we really tried to encourage more off eyes stuff and, like, hanging out and. Yeah, you know, partying together, obviously, and stuff like that. And, yeah, we, we had a lot of good times and, like, big credit to my roommate, Camden Gallagher because he was always the one, you know, kind of organizing that stuff off the ice, definitely. And I just think it really helped the team. [00:42:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. I went to, I did the spring camp. Cause what year are you? A 2000 or an zero one? [00:42:12] Speaker C: I'm an zero one. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, I was the year before. And I like how you said that you found your passion. I, like, lost my passion when coming and just like, for me, I mean, I've never really been the biggest guy either. And I felt like when I came, like, it was a lot of these transfers from playing in the null and they came over and were freshmen, but they were like 21, 20 years old, huge guys. And I was like, I don't know if I can do this. And I didn't, but I kind of wish I did. [00:42:41] Speaker B: Yeah. What was that level of play? Like? Was it, was it a lot different than, I mean, obviously high school, you said it was a lot more physical. Was there ever a point where you were like, damn, this is a higher. Is it a higher level play or what would you say? [00:42:54] Speaker C: Level paid to, like, high school or. [00:42:56] Speaker B: I mean, just in general? [00:42:57] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, there's guys out there that like, there's a slim few that. And like, especially we were acha d two, so there's also acha d one. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Sure. [00:43:05] Speaker C: Some of those guys out there probably could have played division one, obviously. I don't think anyone in the league is like, could have been like mid to NHL maybe. You never know. But I mean, even the level I was playing at in d two, I mean, there were some guys out there that had so much skill and could dominate and had played juniors. Like maybe null or even. I doubt there's any, like major junior, but a lot of null, like na three, just other junior leagues. And like, there was so much skill and I feel like as the years went on, the skill in the league grew even more. Yeah, more kids are like, you know, I'll just go play, like, club hockey at, like, a six school, like, boise state or any, like, the big school, like, Arizona State, even. Even though they have d one. Or. That's a bad example. But, like, you. You dub, right? Watch. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Or, like, even those teams, like, out, like, NC state and, like, all those teams. [00:43:49] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:43:50] Speaker B: They're playing, like, I feel like, in the south. Like, even the south, like, big time. [00:43:54] Speaker C: Club hockey is, like, south, like, cock hockey. Like, grown that brand so much, and it's insane. Like, it's just there's so much potential in all these schools to, like, make the move to, like, go to division one. [00:44:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:09] Speaker C: It costs a lot of money, and, like, you gotta fund it because we look at Boise State, they couldn't even have their baseball team. [00:44:14] Speaker B: I know. So close. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:17] Speaker C: But they make. A lot of these schools make most of their money off of football or, like, basketball. Basketball, right. And they can't afford to be, like, we're gonna fund this insanely expensive sport. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:27] Speaker C: Potentially build an arena, hire all these people to do ice maintenance and stuff like that. So, I mean, for me, I mean, playing at, like, the local community rink, and then sometimes we'd play downtown where the steelheads play, which. Awesome. It was a trip, man. Like, I would say the coolest thing at the start of my career, freshman year, we'd go play at Centurylink Arena, I guess, Idaho central. Yeah. There would be, like, maybe a couple hundred people there on a good night. Like, we have our meals on wheels game, which was, like, once a year for charity, and. But towards the end of it, like, we were promoting our games, and, I mean, you saw more and more people coming to these games, and I just remember this last year, these last two years, I said to say, like, playing University of Washington and University of Montana at that rank. I mean, it's. It's packed. Yeah. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:14] Speaker C: People are loving it, and I just hope to see that for the future of the program. And hopefully, like, the school at least makes the move to either give them some more money or, like, build the program. And you look at it now, you got Darrell hay, the head coach this year. Yeah. Heard about that steelheads legend. Won a Kelly cup. And, I mean, when we were talking about influential coaches in my career, that's another one right there. That was just a phenomenal hockey mind, and just a great person, like, would always push you and always just. He could blow up. Yeah. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:45] Speaker C: And he just expected a lot out of you, and if you didn't bring it, you know, it's. Why waste your time showing up if you're not gonna just try to get better. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Isn't his father like a really legendary head coach? [00:45:57] Speaker C: Don Hay. So Don Hay, I think he's, he still might be the head coach of Kamloops unless he transitioned into a different role. But he's coached in the WHL. He's coached for Hockey Canada. And that's sweet. I'm pretty sure he's got to be one of the like most winningest coaches in WHL history or Hockey Canada or something. But I actually met him for the first time walking to men's league. [00:46:15] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:46:16] Speaker C: Like last month, I was walking out of there, I saw Darrell and first thing he says is, Jonesy, I want you to meet my dad. And I was like, oh, nice to meet you, Don. Like, I've heard so much about you and a little bit and he said he was still in cam loops. Damn, that's really cool. I know he was a head coach there for a while, but you'd like to think, I mean, obviously for Daryl, growing up in that environment, Daryl is an NHL draft pick, right? Like hell of a pro career. Just being able to take in all that stuff from his dad, like hockey knowledge and just, you know, the work ethic you need to be a pro hockey player. Um, so now I think Darryl, you know, coaching the program is just going to be in such good hands because the program always kind of struggled to and it's club hockey just to have that like high level coach. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:56] Speaker C: Because obviously a high level coach, you're going to want some form of salary. And not to say that like, all coaches are like salary driven, but, um, it's nice looking at the program. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:06] Speaker C: That, because Darryl would be an assistant coach for us my whole career and he'd run a lot of our practices. Right. Like, without him, our practices would struggle and he would actually implement a lot of things that could make our team better. And I'm really excited to see what he does this time, full time this year as a coach. [00:47:22] Speaker B: Yeah. You guys had a sellout this year. [00:47:24] Speaker C: Right, for like the Montana? [00:47:26] Speaker B: Technically. Yeah. [00:47:27] Speaker C: Yeah. Unfortunately we lost that game. [00:47:29] Speaker B: Damn. Sweet though, dude. I mean, that's a huge step. I mean, you got to think. [00:47:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:33] Speaker B: What it was like for your freshman year and then to. [00:47:35] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:47:36] Speaker B: To think that a game would sell out. [00:47:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:38] Speaker C: Just like, um. And it helped so much having you too, like, you know, as, like our inside guy last two years. [00:47:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:45] Speaker C: You know, obviously, you know, things kind of went where they did, but, yeah. [00:47:50] Speaker B: We don't need to get into that. But. [00:47:54] Speaker C: Anyways. But yeah, I mean, this last two years especially, we had our game against University of Washington, which was like a sellout. And I think I got kicked out of that game for fighting, which was. It was not a fight. Like, sometimes I feel like ejections and refs can really just like, oh, dude. Like, I thought that game for like a shoving match. And I mean, it's like, that's ridiculous for in town and stuff from out of state. But this last year was my senior night. And I mean, you look forward to that game and you kind of build these little rivalries with these other schools and definitely that's any sport. And so I. We had played Montana already in Missoula, and I think we split with them. And, I mean, that was a sick game up there, too, because, I mean, that rink's pretty packed. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, glacier. Glacier something. [00:48:38] Speaker C: I think it's glacier. Yeah. And a lot of their students show up and they're chirping and like, we lost the first game and won the second night, but yeah. [00:48:48] Speaker B: Yes. Side note, I absolutely hate the Montana Grizzlies. I grew up a Montana State Bobcats fan. I've been to a lot of cat Grizz games. Hockey even, too, which are a good time. But yeah, I hate the grizzly. I hate everything about University of Montana. They were really cool football stadium. I will say that I've been to some cat, but, uh, yeah, go cats. All the way. Um. FTG, though. [00:49:10] Speaker C: But you see this shirt though, gal? [00:49:13] Speaker B: I did. I did see that, dude. Yeah. What's that all about? [00:49:16] Speaker C: I stole this from my teammate, Micah crumb. [00:49:19] Speaker B: Nice. [00:49:19] Speaker C: Dude. I stole it cuz. Had to wear a shirt one night. That. [00:49:23] Speaker B: Where's Micah from? [00:49:25] Speaker C: Micah is from. Oh. I want to say he was maybe born in Billings or somewhere in Montana, but. [00:49:31] Speaker B: Sure. [00:49:31] Speaker C: Grew up in Green River, Wyoming. [00:49:33] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:49:34] Speaker C: True. Yeah. He's a Montana kid, so. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Nice. [00:49:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:39] Speaker A: You guys play byu at ICCU? I remember we did. [00:49:43] Speaker C: Yes. So my junior year. Cause I actually. Fifth year in college, but only played hockey four years. My sophomore year. We didn't have hockey or anything because of COVID It was all online, even school, which is actually how we met. Cause I rushed the fraternity. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:49:55] Speaker C: And that is shout out D sig. Whole nother chapter. Yeah, shout out DC. Whole nother chapter of my life. [00:50:01] Speaker B: We don't need to get into it, too. [00:50:03] Speaker C: Absolutely. One of the best sins I ever made. That's so many people. Yeah. BYU actually had a solid team. Like, I mean, we played on my junior year for our meals on wheels charity game and I think we lost three to one. Wow. God, they had a great program. Like, I think the school actually shut it down because they didn't like how the hockey team represented the school's image. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Really. [00:50:23] Speaker C: Granted, if you guys know a little backstory behind BYU is an lds school. [00:50:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:28] Speaker C: So, you know, they obviously have a different kind of view on things and I don't see how this, the team didn't represent the school. I didn't really know anything internally about the team other than they had a good hockey team and they beat us on our home ice. [00:50:42] Speaker B: I feel like they got a lot of non lds kids probably to play. That's probably what I would guess. I'm surprised there's not a d one school in Utah for hockey. Yeah. Like, I mean, you got BYu, Utah state, Utah. I mean, I just feel like it's a pretty big area and it's pretty similar to Denver, which has two at least d one schools. [00:51:02] Speaker A: I mean, we could see with Utah now. [00:51:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I could definitely see that. [00:51:05] Speaker C: Yeah. 100%. And like, I just want to add too, like, obviously we, we transitioned from the pac eight to the Mountain West Conference, which, yeah, had a lot of those Utah schools, but like, Utah State and Logan. Logan. Shout out, Logan. Great city. It's more of a town, but I mean, they have an unbelievable arena. I believe they, I don't know if the school owns the arena, but it is their home rink and they practice, have their own locker room. It's a great locker room. Like, it looks like a major junior locker room or a college locker room. And they had a, they put on a great show every year and get a lot of fans. And even like University of Utah, I would say those two probably even weber state has a great program. Great, ranked. So they definitely care a lot about hockey in Utah. And I expect that they will probably have a division one team in the next ten. [00:51:48] Speaker B: I know. That's what I was saying. They just got an HL team. They've had a UCHL team. I feel like they've, they've got to make that jump. One of those schools does, because I feel like if one of those schools does it, they're going to make so much money off of it. [00:51:59] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Like people are going to go to those games, especially BYU. I just know BYU fans are diehard for any sport, so I feel like that would be a good move for them, which we will get into this later. Before we get into that, I guess, was there any moments I know you don't need to go into too many specifics, but was there any moments at Boise State that stood out to you? Any brawls, any games? I know that you had that classic goal that went viral when you were taunting the bench. [00:52:29] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I always think I overlook a lot of things, but there's a couple, and I'd say, like, favorite memory, like, on ice was my junior year. We played the University of Oregon in an outdoor game. And bend, that's a really cool town. They have a nice outdoor rink, and we were such an underdog going into that game. We were having a tough year. Kids with grades being bad and had a bad goalie situation. We actually had. I think we had, like, a 28 year old, like, emergency goalie who was going to school play for us named wyatt. He did everything he could, but that's wild. So, we went into that game, and I think I had a goal in the first, and I was selling in pretty hard. I hate oregon. Like, that was Montana state is oregon for me. And that was a lot of it because of football, growing up, watching Boise state, but had a goal in the first and then had a goal in the second, and, like, every time I scored, I was just so fired up. [00:53:25] Speaker B: Like, hell, yeah, dude. [00:53:26] Speaker C: Selling. And then I would say my, uh, in the third period, we. We were tied, and then I scored to get the hat trick in the start of the third, and I, uh. That was probably the hardest I ever cellied in my life. Just screaming, top of my lungs, like, just so much going through my body. And that's where I can really confidently say my passion for the game, like, came back is just those moments, like, that. I remember when I scored that goal, even though we actually did end up losing that game, I was just looking around the crowd, like, pretending I had a hat on my helmet, throwing it and screaming at people and throwing up the jersey. And I saw this guy wearing a Denver Broncos hat in the crowd, so I kept pointing at him to throw his hat, and I was just like, let's go. And he just was emotional, dude. Staring at me, like, I was like, well, maybe he's an organ fan. [00:54:15] Speaker B: That's sick. That's, like, the winter classic for you guys, though. [00:54:17] Speaker C: Yeah, it was, like the winter classic. So we did that for two years. Like, played Utah state there one year, too. [00:54:22] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:54:22] Speaker C: Unfortunately, we never beat Oregon at that game. But, um, in terms of, like, another memory that sticks out, um, more of, like, along the scary side of things is my true senior year. Like, second game of the year, actually took a skate blade to the neck. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember that. I was like, holy shit. Yeah, dude. I remember you sending me the video and stuff, but I was like, oh, my God, dude, you almost died straight. [00:54:45] Speaker C: Up, just millimeters from death. And I look back on it, and that's crazy. I wonder, like, what in the world happened? Like, I do know what happened. I just. [00:54:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Walk us through that. [00:54:57] Speaker C: Yeah. So it was, like, the second game of the year, I had, like, my family in town. We were playing in at the Haley Ice arena, which is just Sun Valley, Idaho, if you guys know where that is. It's kind of resort town to you listeners. I know you guys know sun Valley playing Montana state there. And they. I mean, they're a good team, too. That's another program I haven't mentioned, but, like, they're. Yeah, they were ranked number one in the country, like, last two years at one point, and they have a heck of a coach. Heck of a program. But we're playing them, and I think. [00:55:20] Speaker B: We were losing Dave Weaver, you know. [00:55:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:22] Speaker B: Dave Weaver is really good. Yeah. Step. So it might be what's his. [00:55:27] Speaker C: Chicago and. Laughter. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Same laughter. [00:55:30] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I know they related. I don't know if it steps on or. [00:55:34] Speaker B: Really good coach, though. [00:55:34] Speaker C: Yeah, really good coach. Me have a great team. Their goalie was phenomenal, but I was going for, like, a loose puck in the slot, and as I went to take a shot, I, like, somehow lost all of my footing and started sliding. And as I was sliding, one of their defenders kind of, like, fell over top, like, tabletop. You know when you tabletop someone. [00:55:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:53] Speaker C: And so it all happened so fast, but as I was, you know, planning my right foot to turn left to go back. Check. He was just kind of, like, just about totally falling over me, and his foot, like, kicked up as I turned, and his skate blade just caught my neck, and instantly, like, I knew, like, whoa. Like, skate blade. That felt weird. Like, oops. But that felt weird. So, like, no, no blood coming out or anything. Like, you've seen that Malarchuk video or anything like that. So I didn't. I knew maybe something was wrong, but I had no pain or, like, anything. I was just kind of, like, instant, like, fight or flight response. So I skated to the bench. I was, like, touching my neck, and I wasn't wearing a neck guard, so. Yeah, you kids wear a neck guard. That's probably smart, especially what's happened the last couple years. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Holy crap. [00:56:38] Speaker C: Historically, with the game, it's always something you look at, you're like, that never happened to me. And then, yeah, so as I was getting to the bench, I started feeling my neck, and I was like, that feels kind of weird. It feels like there's, like, a hole in my, like, that just doesn't feel right. So I get to the bench and I'm, like, looking at my coach, which was Lloyd at the time, I'm, like, looking. I'm like, oh, I. Alright. And I was, like, kind of freaking out internally, and everyone's just kind of, like, staring at me. Like they don't know what to say. Like, even Lloyd looked at me and I never seen look at me like that. And I'm like, yeah, you need to get the trainer. I'm like, oh, I might just be a small cut. So the trainer runs over Kaylee. Shout out, Kaylee. She hit me up a couple times. And I mean, great, great person. Always nice to have a trainer on site, too, no matter what. [00:57:19] Speaker B: She, like, a boise state student or. [00:57:21] Speaker C: The club sports trainer. Like, she. For all club sports. Yeah, she's a great person. So, yeah, she came over to the bench, had to walk around, like, looked at my neck and, like, we got to get you, like, off the ice right now. Like, that's not good. I'm like, it cannot be this bad. Like, I'm talking. I feel like I could go back in the game. [00:57:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:39] Speaker C: And she's like, you need to stop talking because every time you talk, the cut on your neck opens up more and more. Just expanding. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:47] Speaker C: So, okay, well, I guess I'm gonna get stitched up and I'll go back out. So we walk around and she, like, puts, like, she now stitches, unfortunately. And she's like, it has to get stitched. And I was like, I don't think it does. I hadn't seen it yet. And she's looking at it and she's like, puts on, like, just kind of, like, the wrap around my neck. But at first she'd, like, say, I need to take a picture of this real quick for, like, I don't know, I guess teaching or something like that to the student trainers. [00:58:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:15] Speaker C: And I was like, okay. And then finally, I don't think I ever saw the picture until I was out of the hospital, but she takes the pictures and then she wraps my neck up pretty good. We get to the hospital, and. Which was, like, a 30 minutes drive to Sun Valley, and my actually were the ones that drove me, so I was in, like, half gear and still, I just. I know I'm fine. At this point, but get to the hospital. I never forget, like, the lights were off in the hospital, and, like, there was, like, no one there. And I just walk up to the front desk, I was like. I was, like, in full gear. I'm like, hey. Like, I just took a hockey skate to the neck. Like, I probably need to get. [00:58:48] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:58:49] Speaker C: She's just like, okay, just. It'll be a second. I was like, okay. And so we get in the room. Doctor looks nuts, takes the tape off, and he's looking at it, and he's just, like, shocked. Like, doctor's like, wow. Like, that is about a millimeter from your carotid artery. [00:59:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:05] Speaker C: Like, I could probably almost see your. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess it is pretty bad. So he starts cleaning it out a little bit, and he's, like, looking at it, and he's like, well, we're gonna get you stitched up. Or maybe. I think he got me stitched up at first. Then I had to go get, like, a. Whatever scan they do where they inject you with dye. Yeah. You guys have done that. Inject you with this die to make sure there's nothing going on internally, because if there's an internal cut that, like, die will, like, go to a place it shouldn't. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:59:31] Speaker C: That was weird. I think it was. I don't know what it was called. [00:59:34] Speaker B: But feel like I've heard about when. [00:59:35] Speaker C: They give you that, it makes you feel like you piss your pants. Like, they gave me that. They warn you, too. And I was like, okay. And so he injects me with this thing, and it just feels like the warmest feeling. You feel like you literally pee everywhere, like, for, like 2 seconds, and then scanned me and everything was fine, but ended up getting seven stitches. Basically told a couple times, I lucky to be alive, which I look back on. I am chad. It was just nuts. Like, so crazy out. He's just. He was so astonished because it was just about as close as you can get to death as possible. [01:00:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:07] Speaker C: And you'd like to. When that happened in milar, Chuck and other guys, you have so little time to react to, like, an artery being severed like that. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:13] Speaker C: And I would have 100 bled out on the ice or at least in the arena because, yeah, Sun Valley is 30 minutes away. [01:00:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:21] Speaker C: I look back on it, if I would have got my artery cut, I would have died in front of my parents on the ice. And you just go into a game like that, not thinking that could ever happen. [01:00:30] Speaker A: No. [01:00:30] Speaker B: That's so nuts. [01:00:31] Speaker C: Dude, very thankful I was okay. But I look back, and it was just probably the craziest thing has ever happened. [01:00:40] Speaker B: Do you wear a neck guard now? [01:00:41] Speaker C: I did for a little that year. [01:00:42] Speaker B: True. [01:00:42] Speaker C: Yeah. Now I don't. I should. And that's it. Sounds like after what happened to me, I should be wearing one at all times. But, um. [01:00:50] Speaker B: I mean, adult hockey's a little different. [01:00:52] Speaker C: Like, it's a little different. But even, like, towards end of my. This last hockey year, I didn't wear neck guard once, like, for BSU. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Tim. [01:00:59] Speaker C: And even with that happening to the guy who played in England in that. [01:01:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:01:03] Speaker C: Cut and died. You know, that video was, like something that was not a hockey move. [01:01:10] Speaker A: No. [01:01:10] Speaker C: And just looking back, I mean, what happened to me was lucky. I was just very lucky. Yeah. [01:01:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:15] Speaker B: I know. That whole skate incident in England, it's vicious, it's horrifying. It's a horrifying video to watch. It's like one of the most gruesome sports videos, I think, out there. [01:01:27] Speaker A: I got stepped on once on my toe. We were goofing around in the locker room, and we were turning the lights on and off, for whatever reason. Thought that was a good idea. And I had my skates off. It was like the one day I actually changed pretty quick. I was usually a slow. Was be the last one out of the locker room always. But I had my skates off and we were turning the lights on and off, and I was, like, goofing around. And I luckily didn't get stepped on the toe, but it. His skate, like, I think he, like, stepped and, like, sliced my toe and it freaked me the hell out. [01:02:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:00] Speaker A: Look, I was very lucky that my toe didn't come off and it was like. Yeah, I just. This. It's so crazy, like, how dangerous. [01:02:07] Speaker C: Knives on your feet. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Knives on your feet. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Ouch. [01:02:09] Speaker C: And then crazy thing is, I remember, like, when I. After it got cut, like, obviously the scar. Yeah, first. Yeah, stitches. But, you know, those skates are so sharp, and it's just like, a sharp blade. You can't even really notice that. Yeah, usually you'd think, like, there's a massive scar. [01:02:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:24] Speaker C: Um, I mean, they're just so sharp, and you never think it's gonna happen to you or, I mean, could happen to anywhere on your body, really. Guys get cut all the time, but, yeah, the throat is like, you think of just the last. The death sentence. Yeah, yeah. I. I mean, you get your, like, your leg stepped on or something. Like Evanger Cain got all his wrists skated over. Yeah, that's pretty scary. Cause that probably messed him up. [01:02:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that could screw you up big time. [01:02:45] Speaker C: We take the wrist over, like, the. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Neck and neck is just like, you're screwed a lot of the time. Um, so obviously that one. I know I've already brought this up, but that one goal that went viral. What. Walk us through that. What was going on that game was there, you know, some trash talk before that goal happened or what? What was. Or did you just do it spontaneously? [01:03:06] Speaker C: So the funny thing about that, there was absolutely no trash talking really, at all. So that actually, I believe was the first game I played after the neck injury. [01:03:17] Speaker B: Okay. [01:03:17] Speaker C: So, like going, no, not the first one, actually. No. Cuz I actually played like the following weekend with stitches in at home. I just wore a neck guard and that was kind of scary. Just like, yeah, that's super. Yeah, I played the next weekend at home and like, this was like the week after. So. Played a couple games after the injury, but this. Everyone always gave me shit for this on the team too, because the goal was so meaningless. Like, we. I had a goal that game already, but we were at University of Washington. I don't think we'd ever played in Seattle before. And we were at the Seattle Kraken practice arena, which is really nice facility. And they had a good team, had a couple really good players. But the game, I think we were winning like five three, maybe. And. Yeah, there was like, there's like a minute left and I got the puck and I think I walked the guy and then went to the slot and scored. And my momentum was carrying me, like, along the half wall, like, by their bench to like, go back to our bench and I was going really fast. And just when I scored it, I was just like one of those. It's kind of like talking about like the organ goal. Just all that adrenaline threw me in, like, yeah, just happy to be alive and do that again. Like, that feeling of doing something like that. I just some. For some reason you kind of like, black out in those moments. But I, like, my mind went to, I guess we're gonna go knee drop shoot. [01:04:37] Speaker B: It's a pretty sick cellie if you guys haven't seen it. [01:04:39] Speaker C: Shoot the arrow in front of their bench. And then as I, like, shot the arrow, I just remember being on one knee sliding by their bench. And I'm not one to, like, I guess in college I was one to taunt, like, the other team and do shit like that because I'd be lying if I said I didn't you gotta have more respect for the game, but you gotta live a little too. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:57] Speaker C: And I remember going by their bench and, like, looking at all of them, and, like, my hands, for some reason, came up like this, like, that emoji you ever seen. [01:05:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:04] Speaker C: And, like, for some reason. Well, I did. No, for some reason, after I shot the arrow, my hand was here, and, like, in my mind, I was like, I want to flip off this bench. Like, that's what I thought I was gonna do. But for some reason, it was more, like, in my mind at the moment, like, oh, I can't do that. So I did, like, a John Cena. Like, one of these. [01:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Tyler Kendrick, our good friend who does video for the steelheads, managed to capture it, and after the game, like, I was so pumped to score, I'm sure the other team wanted to kick my ass in the parking lot. [01:05:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:31] Speaker C: And then we ended up losing the next game to him, too, which was probably deserved. I got a little shit for that, too, from the team. [01:05:36] Speaker B: Like, the boys are not so funny. [01:05:37] Speaker C: The boys were kind of like, you know, well, maybe you shouldn't have done that. But, yeah, Kendrick came up to me after the game. He's like, do you guys see this video? And showed it to me. And, like, I told him, I was like, yeah, like, that'd be sick. We should post it, maybe. And I definitely said we should post it. [01:05:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:52] Speaker C: And then he just caught traction, and then, yeah, I think bar down posted it. [01:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It definitely went a little bit viral. [01:06:00] Speaker C: Hockey community comments on that was. [01:06:04] Speaker B: I, like, I saw some people were like, oh, he's gonna get killed next year. [01:06:07] Speaker C: People were saying, just, they're hating on it so much. Just like, if he was on my team, he'd be running laps outside the ring. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Or, like, oh, my gosh. [01:06:15] Speaker C: The team just cross checked him from behind, like, broke his neck. And then I. You see a lot of, like, the negatives, and then here and there, you'd see some guy be like, what a success, Ellie. [01:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. [01:06:24] Speaker C: Look at that. [01:06:24] Speaker A: That's all the Internet, though. Like, that's. [01:06:26] Speaker B: Oh, dude, we've. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Comment section. [01:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah, we. We pissed some people off during the playoffs. [01:06:30] Speaker C: Yeah, of course. [01:06:31] Speaker B: I'm not a big oilers fan, and they went pretty far, and. [01:06:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:34] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we got some. [01:06:36] Speaker C: We got hatred. Like, one more thing, too, is, like, with college hockey, at least in club, I mean, there is fighting. You can fight, but, like, you know, junior hockey, you can fight, and it's. Yeah, you don't get a like, suspended. [01:06:46] Speaker A: Really? [01:06:46] Speaker C: I don't think you do that. And I look back, I didn't play junior. If you do that in a league like, the null or unless you're, like, if you're, like, a going d one, you can't really, you know, if you're just some guy and you do that in one of those junior hockey leagues, there is a 99% chance someone is going to beat the absolute shit. [01:07:01] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [01:07:03] Speaker C: Or in the parking lot or something like that. [01:07:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Did you get chirped at all, like, any other following games from that? Did anyone? [01:07:11] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, the next game in Washington, I get chirped a lot, and, you know, I wore 93, and I would always get called 93, so, like, I just always got chirped like boys. I mean. Yeah. Like, people saw it in club. [01:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [01:07:25] Speaker C: So here. And I never know, like, real chirps from, like, random teams, but, yeah, people, like, kind of. Not to sound, like, egotistic, but I think people kind of knew who I was because of that. True, to an extent. And, I mean, boise state's a pretty, like. Like, known, like, standout school. Not in terms of, like, popularity, but you just kind of know Boise state. [01:07:43] Speaker B: Definitely. [01:07:43] Speaker A: Definitely from football, especially. [01:07:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, we have our own colors and, like, the logo and the blue turf. Like, people know about us. [01:07:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:49] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I got tripped a lot, both from my teammates and here and there. From, like, other. [01:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So I know you said it was a. It's a gong show of a league. Is there any. [01:07:58] Speaker C: I won't say it's a gong show of a league. I can't. Not saying that it's not a gong show of elite. [01:08:02] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:02] Speaker C: There are some serious talent in that league. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:04] Speaker C: Good hockey. But it can be. [01:08:06] Speaker B: Okay, it can be. But was there ever a moment where there's anything out of the blue or. I mean, you don't have to go into too many specifics or not even tell it at all, but was there any. Any stories that were, like, what the hell is going on? Brawls or stuff on the ice or ejections or anything like that? [01:08:25] Speaker C: Oh, I mean, I really got to think about this one for a second. There was nothing crazy that, like, stood out where you see, like. Sure, there was a couple, like, brawls per se. [01:08:33] Speaker B: We're guys or fans. [01:08:34] Speaker C: Even guys still have their gloves on. I mean, there probably is. I need. I'm just wondering so much that I forget, but nothing, like, crazy sticks out. I mean, you'd have fans here and there, like, chirping and on ice stuff happen. Like, I'm just looking back and what. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Was the loudest, like, barn. You played in, like a home place, not like a. [01:08:58] Speaker C: Like a neutral site. [01:08:59] Speaker A: Yeah, neutral site. [01:09:01] Speaker C: Like a home, dude, Utah state. I mean, they. It's called Eccles I Serena. And it probably fits, like maybe 1280. And it sold out one time, and this was my junior year, it sold out probably a couple times, but, like, one time we played there and it was sold out, like, hundred percent, standing room only. And we were playing them and we actually won this game. I'm pretty sure this. We played. We played there a couple times, but I. My junior, senior year, one time, I just remember is one of those years we could have won or lost. But, um, they were doing, like, their fight song, and it's a pretty, like, narrow barn. Like, the roof's pretty low and, like, it just gets loud. I mean, dude, it felt like I was in, like, a semi pro ring. Like, when they were doing that fight song, when they would score. Oh, it would just get electric in there. [01:09:46] Speaker B: That's pretty crazy. [01:09:47] Speaker C: The students were, like, behind. They would be shaking our glass and, like, damn. Like, I look back on those moments and, like, I just remember being in the moment and, like, looking around, I'd be like, wow, this is so cool to be here. [01:09:58] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [01:09:59] Speaker C: I mean, from now, like, looking at it now, I'm like, I wish I could be back in that moment. Just, like, analyzing just, like, where I'm at, the atmosphere and how much people are just going crazy for a club hockey game in college. [01:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah, big time. I mean, yeah. With that transition, I feel like college hockey just grows so much across the country, whether it's club, whether it's d mean, what do you see the future of hockey? Appley State? Do you think they could ever go d one? I know we kind of touched on this earlier, but, I mean, do you think there's at all future for that? [01:10:29] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, definitely. I really think there is. Hopefully. I think the football team affects the school a lot. So if the football team is good and they're making more money and, like, basketball has been a lot better lately, too. So I think the school, when they have good sports teams, they want to promote that. Hockey is obviously kind of smaller in a state like Idaho, but I, um. Obviously the program with Darrell running it now, and I just know the roster from the outside looking in and, like, I know a lot of guys, a lot of guys I played with still playing it is going to be a hell of a hockey team this year. [01:11:00] Speaker B: Really? [01:11:00] Speaker C: I would argue that this boise state team this year will be the best team that's ever damn orange. That's really sick with Daryl being the coach he is and all the assistants he's hired and all the resources. I mean, I'd like to think I heard something about, like, a ten year plan where ten years from now they would like there to be a d one team. [01:11:18] Speaker B: That's so sick. [01:11:19] Speaker C: It all comes down to, I, at least in my own opinion, um, you gotta consistently be dominant and win, like Montana State has done. [01:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:28] Speaker C: You gotta have a coach who's, like, no able to do that, and you gotta recruit, and they've done a good job of all that. But I say if the team can dominate at the level they're at, at some point they're gonna want to move up to acha d one. [01:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah. What's that process? Like, how do you go from d two to d one? [01:11:45] Speaker C: Um, I think you have to apply, but, like, you just have to have a certain amount of. I mean, I don't know, like, the. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Back wins and stuff. [01:11:52] Speaker C: Yeah, some things you have, like, obviously, you probably look into it and you'd find it out, but, yeah, you got to be a good team and you gotta be that. Be able to compete with, like, those achid one teams, like, unlv, sick program. And a lot of those schools, like, they have guys that can play d three or even d one. Yeah, but, like, the school is gonna have to give Boise State some money because it is a self funded organization. The school only gives us, like, a fraction of money and fashion on the school here. But it's the truth. Like, you guys need to give more money to. [01:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah, come on. Come on, boys. Give more money. [01:12:22] Speaker C: It's realistically. But, like, we fundraise all the money and, like, to get more jerseys and, like, all sorts of stuff and, like, you know, flyers for our games. It goes down to everything. And, yeah, you guys do have sick unis. Yeah, I mean, there's. Oh, dude, so much potential. And we just started, like, blue ice. Blue ice would be cool. [01:12:40] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know if that would work. [01:12:41] Speaker C: Yeah, an outdoor game on the blue turf, dude. [01:12:44] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. [01:12:45] Speaker C: Like North Carolina. But, yeah, I want to say this team needs to dominate and get more and more talent coming in, cycling through, and then I'd say in five years, they would want to be an Acha d one program and prove themselves at that level again. And hopefully, with time, the school will recognize a winner when they see one and then give the team, more money. And at some point it comes down to the booster club and whoever's coaching where that's at to just really. I mean, I remember I had a. I volunteered for student move in day last August, and I actually, I was doing it with my roommate Camden, and we ran into Jeremiah Dickey, who's the athletic director at Boyce. He's from Texas, and he's. He was. I think he was like his first or second year out of his first, actually. And I think it was a second, but. Or a couple. Right. But anyways, talking to him, and I was just kind of trying to sell him on the team and, like, be, like, come out to a game. So it basically comes down to who, you know, and I. But there's a certain group of people that make those decisions and, yeah. Convincing them to do it. Right. [01:13:47] Speaker B: I feel like football and basketball is going to be king, but, I mean, even with football and basketball, look at how many people go to those games. Look how much money that brings in for the school. And then even with the steelheads, how big the steelheads have gotten here. I feel like if Boise State had a d one hockey team with very good talent and entertaining hockey. Not saying club isn't, but, you know, d one's that big. Big of a step up. Um, you know, I feel like it's totally doable. I think it would make the school money. I mean, the arena might be kind of a hard thing. I don't know if they're going to play downtown or if they're going to build an arena, but, yeah, it would be so sick. I feel like a lot of it. [01:14:21] Speaker C: Is money, though, too, 100%. [01:14:23] Speaker B: So micron or simple. Throw some. [01:14:24] Speaker A: Throw some money. [01:14:27] Speaker C: Got to get. I mean, it comes down to two is like, you get an anonymous sponsor, like, someone who's just like, I'm going to give this team $10 million. Yeah, that's what happened to University of Utah lacrosse, is they had a donor, basically fund them to go from club to division one lacrosse. [01:14:39] Speaker B: That's so crazy. [01:14:40] Speaker C: I want this team to be d one. Here's $10 million. [01:14:42] Speaker B: That's so crazy. [01:14:43] Speaker C: Yeah, that is crazy. [01:14:44] Speaker B: That's a cool thing that rich people do. [01:14:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:46] Speaker B: I feel like you don't hear if. [01:14:47] Speaker C: You have that much money, right? Yeah. [01:14:48] Speaker B: I mean, even with Ryan Smith. Like, with Utah. Yeah, I mean, Utah, Utah hockey, which I gave nuxt to Ryan Smith. [01:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:55] Speaker B: And he looked at me really weird when I did it, but it was a cool moment. I'm like, dude, this guy's the owner of the jazz and the Utah hockey club. Utah Yeti. We'll just call him the Utah Yeti. But, yeah, I mean, I mean, that's just cool. Like, and also, like, that whole process how that went down with the hockey club and the coyotes, like, holy crap. It's just crazy that someone can just throw that much cash and basically buy a team, and next thing you know, there's NHL hockey in Utah four or five years away. Think about a year ago today, like, there wasn't even. [01:15:26] Speaker C: No. [01:15:26] Speaker B: Anything we heard about it. Yeah, speculation. There's also speculation with Houston and Quebec City. [01:15:32] Speaker C: So going back to Atlanta or something. [01:15:34] Speaker B: It'S crazy that that just happened within a year. [01:15:36] Speaker A: So it was really quick. I feel bad for the fans, especially. Cause, like, how, how quick? Like, we have a buddy that is a Coyotes fan. He went to a game, like, I want to say, a month before the team got sold. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:48] Speaker A: And he had no idea. That was his last game. Yeah, no idea. [01:15:51] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:15:52] Speaker C: Now they're done, but, yeah, Arizona State. Yeah, that's true. [01:15:57] Speaker B: They do have a, they have a sick d one team, too, and they're there. I know. They definitely pack their barn. So, I mean, even with that, I mean, Arizona State, I know Arizona State's one of the biggest colleges in the nation, but, I mean, look what they did there. Arizona's middle of the desert, you know, and, yeah, sure, they have the coyotes. Sure, it's a big city, but, I mean, look how successful their d one program was. And I feel like their, their club program was really successful before that. So what was, I feel like that is such, like, a good example for west coast teams to do. I feel like Oregon. I'm surprised Oregon hasn't done it. And like I said, I'm surprised, like, probably will. [01:16:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So I feel like, I mean, that, that goes to my next question. Like, do you see a lot of more west coast teams going d one in the future? [01:16:39] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, I would imagine if there's any more teams d one, they're going to be west coast. [01:16:44] Speaker B: Or do you think it would go, like, south first? [01:16:46] Speaker C: Oh, that's a good, I mean, because. [01:16:48] Speaker B: I mean, there's a lot of traction going on with hockey in the south. Florida is like the freaking hockey state right now in the whole world. [01:16:54] Speaker C: Yeah, but, I mean, it's hard to say. [01:16:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It is hard to say. Hopefully it happens. It'd be sick of college hockey can take off to the level it even is of college football or college basketball. It would probably be 100 years. But, I mean, I think it's one of those sports that could, you know, be in the discussion somewhat even. I feel like college baseball, if it got to that level of college baseball, like, it has that potential. [01:17:19] Speaker C: Yeah. Are they. [01:17:20] Speaker A: I mean, I guess the frozen, I was going to say, like the college World Series, pretty popular, but the frozen four is like. I mean, it's not crazy popular, but I feel like that's it get. It's going to get more traction and. [01:17:31] Speaker B: And you got, like, high end prospects playing in NCAA now that are number one draft picks. Um, so I feel like we're going to see more of that and I feel like it's just going to grow the game in the US more and college hockey more. So it'd be sick if Boise State ever went d one. If any of these. I mean, all these fools, it'd be sick of Montana State. That, too. I know they're having a lot of success, so, um, it's cool to see, like, club hockey growing, hockey, which could turn into an actual d one team. [01:17:59] Speaker C: So if I had to guess, I would think UNLV has a good chance. [01:18:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I've heard that. [01:18:07] Speaker C: Maybe like North Carolina or North Carolina State just because they've noted that already. And, like, I think being a fan, going to those, like, the outdoor game they had on either side, like, they want to see more of that. [01:18:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:18:18] Speaker C: Place like, was like, what was they played the North Carolina state. [01:18:21] Speaker B: Dude, they have like more than 10,000 people there. [01:18:23] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:18:24] Speaker B: It's like, come on. [01:18:25] Speaker C: I mean, dude, give them a freaking. [01:18:26] Speaker A: D one team they did it at. I want to say it was around the same time they had the stadium series. No, yeah, yeah, it was. [01:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah, that's why they had it there. [01:18:34] Speaker B: Oh, true, true, true, true. [01:18:36] Speaker C: That was hurricanes verse. Who'd they play in that? [01:18:41] Speaker B: Devil wasn't in Canes Devils. Oh, my gosh. [01:18:44] Speaker A: I don't know. Look at us. [01:18:45] Speaker B: We run a hockey podcast. [01:18:47] Speaker A: We weren't working then. That was not our. Yeah, our timeline, I think. Let's see. What time is it? So five? [01:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah, when we start, probably. You have a game at like, what, nine? Right. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Okay, just, um, as our wrapping up here, we want to see, um, who's your prediction next year for the NHL? Oh, who do you think is going to win the Stanley cup? [01:19:11] Speaker B: Well, let's start out with who do you think is going to play in the Stanley cup final? [01:19:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:19:15] Speaker C: Yeah, man. [01:19:16] Speaker B: If you could pick two teams right now. [01:19:18] Speaker C: Two teams right now? Yeah, I'm really trying to think about who all went where with, like, the. [01:19:23] Speaker B: Off season signings, big time. [01:19:25] Speaker C: So that's, um. [01:19:26] Speaker B: So I'll just, I'll just rattle off some, some of the offseason signings, because we, we went in a deep dive to this. [01:19:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:32] Speaker B: I think the Predators are going to be incredibly good. [01:19:34] Speaker C: Yeah, they will be. [01:19:35] Speaker B: They got stamkos. I don't know. They also got Marshaso. They got Brady's. [01:19:40] Speaker C: Vegas gave up on marshes. [01:19:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, gensoul went to the lightning. [01:19:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:44] Speaker B: The Bruins got Lindholm. I think preds are going to the Blackhawks. [01:19:50] Speaker A: The penguins did this year. They're gonna be. I mean, I just don't. I don't know if they have it. [01:19:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:56] Speaker B: I mean, Jeff Skinner to the Oilers, too. I think that's such an underrated sign, even though I hate the Oilers, but. [01:20:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, realize Jeff Skinner went to the oil. [01:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Dude, he's going to be a 40 goal scorer next year. Like, I'm calling it right now, man. Dude, I know, dude. They had to put potential, too, but. [01:20:12] Speaker C: Like, Tate Thompson, but also, like, I. [01:20:14] Speaker B: Feel like buffalo is still kind of a bubble team. I mean, I feel like they're in their window right now. [01:20:18] Speaker A: They bought Skinner's contract, too. [01:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:21] Speaker C: Really? [01:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. Well, he's getting paid older, though. Yeah. [01:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:24] Speaker A: He's getting paid eight mil a year there for them, so I think they just needed to. [01:20:28] Speaker B: I mean, look what a player like, hymen did, though, with the Oilers. Like, he credible looks like a completely different player than he was with the Leafs. He was good on the Leafs, but, like, yeah, the Oilers, it's like, what's going on? I just also, I feel like that's McDavid and dry settle effect. [01:20:41] Speaker C: Right. [01:20:42] Speaker B: But, yeah, going back to that, who's, who do you got in the Stanley cup final? [01:20:46] Speaker C: I'm the type of person to always go with your gut. Like, you could talk all the free agencies. I mean, like, yeah, they're important. Like, Nashville. Yeah. Stammer and Marshall. It's going to help him a lot, but, like, something tells me those Colorado avalanche are just going to go back. I think McKinnon is a good enough player, and, like, even their leadership group. And who knows if Landiscog might be back next. [01:21:08] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got to be back. [01:21:12] Speaker C: And I couldn't tell you, like, who they've, they made move with in the offseason, but, I mean, you'd think the Oilers might be back. Me, David's probably going to go on, like, revenge tour. Yeah. But if I had to pick one team out of the west. [01:21:28] Speaker B: I know it's a little bit tough, and it's pretty early, too. [01:21:32] Speaker C: And it's early. There's just. I mean, the abs did win a couple of years ago. [01:21:37] Speaker B: I mean, the Avs is a solid pick. [01:21:38] Speaker C: Vancouver is not a bad pick. Right. Like, they. [01:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:42] Speaker C: Yeah. The Knights. I think the Knights might start to fall off. [01:21:46] Speaker B: Really? [01:21:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:21:48] Speaker A: Derailing a little. [01:21:49] Speaker C: Just a tiny bit. Yeah. I'll probably say Colorado. I just think. [01:21:54] Speaker B: Okay. [01:21:55] Speaker C: Reason McKinnon wants it, and he might just. Absolutely. I don't know. [01:22:00] Speaker B: You did win MVP. [01:22:01] Speaker C: So did win MVP. Right. And I just called that. They have a great organization there, and their. Their crowds are awesome, and they like to win. Like, yeah. They won't tolerate losing, which I feel like is very important. So I'll go. Colorado wins the west, and I'd say, I bet you they beat the Oilers in the conference finals that far. I'd say in the east. I mean, I'm always kind of, like. I'm a Sharks fan, but I love the Rangers. [01:22:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:27] Speaker C: Like, but I don't think they're tough enough. [01:22:30] Speaker B: Really. [01:22:31] Speaker C: I don't. I think that they're kind of like the Leafs in the sense of they have so much skill, but, yeah. Some reason, they just can't get over that hump. So if I had to pick a team from the east, I mean, the. [01:22:43] Speaker B: Rangers are really close, though. [01:22:44] Speaker C: We're close, man. Like, and they lost to, uh. [01:22:48] Speaker B: Do you have the best goalie in the league? One of them. [01:22:50] Speaker C: So they do have Igor, and I. [01:22:56] Speaker B: Just put you on the spot. [01:22:59] Speaker C: I know the east is tougher time here, but, um. You know what? I know. I was just bashing on him. But I'll say the Leafs go to the conference final. Finally. They're probably due for a sneaky. [01:23:09] Speaker B: Wow. Okay. [01:23:10] Speaker C: I'll say the Leafs go to the conference final, and they end up losing to. Hard to say, man. Like, I want to say Florida again. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Predators. [01:23:20] Speaker C: Yeah. Almost. [01:23:20] Speaker B: One of the Predators are the last. [01:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:23:22] Speaker C: Florida might have something really going there, and, like, their group. Like, I think it's true. Huge. Like, Chuck's a winner. Yeah. I don't think Boston is going to be as good as they were. I know it's funny because you think about hockey so much, but I'm trying to think all the teams in the east that could win it. Right? [01:23:39] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:23:41] Speaker C: Shoot off some names here of who you guys think would. [01:23:45] Speaker B: In the east. I think the Rangers are going to have a really good year again. I think the Panthers are also going to have a good year. I think the Lightning are going to be sneaky. I also think the Devils. I think if Markstrom can figure it out, I think the Devils are going to be really good and I feel like a lot of people are not talking about them. I think the Leafs are going to be decent, but I can just see them not making it past the second round again. Yeah, but I mean, those are the four, I think four teams that I said that have a very good shot of it. I feel like Pittsburgh might sneak into, especially if they get in the playoffs with all their veteran experience. But yeah, I mean, they just had such a down year. I don't. I don't know, but I mean, that's. Those are the teams that come to mind, but out of any of them, I mean, it's hard not to. [01:24:32] Speaker C: Oh, I gotta. I got it. [01:24:33] Speaker B: I'd say the Rangers. I'm just going to say that and say the Rangers. [01:24:36] Speaker C: I got a team I hope goes and wins the cup final next year, is the Detroit Red Wings. Oh, yeah. [01:24:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:41] Speaker C: I was such a Kane fan growing up and I was even a fan of them last year and they barely missed the playoffs. [01:24:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah. It was heartbreaking. [01:24:46] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, they're, they're the. Probably an underdog just in terms of they might make the playoffs and they got to figure out a couple things, but fun team to watch. [01:24:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Dude, I meantown us cider and freaking Raymond or some young players are going to be really good. [01:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, if I pick one from the east, I'll probably go. If I go Florida, I think. [01:25:06] Speaker B: Okay. [01:25:06] Speaker C: Goes back to the cup and they lose dabs. All right. [01:25:09] Speaker B: Got Florida. [01:25:10] Speaker A: And that'd be a good matchup. [01:25:11] Speaker C: I would be good matchup. [01:25:13] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, anything else before? [01:25:17] Speaker B: One last prediction. Who do you think the worst team is going to be? That might be a little bit easier. Really? I feel like I've been seeing that a lot. [01:25:27] Speaker A: I think the sharks. I think the Sharks will be like bottom five. [01:25:31] Speaker C: Yeah, probably. They gotta be better than next year. [01:25:33] Speaker B: Do you know, do you think you got any idea who's going to win the calder? [01:25:38] Speaker C: Well, hopefully Macklin Celebrini. Yeah, I would think he would get a lot of ice. Timeless san Jose. And like, it's going to be like Bedard where you just quarterback and as a rookie. [01:25:48] Speaker B: Sure. [01:25:48] Speaker C: I'm curious to see how Chicago does next year. [01:25:50] Speaker B: I'm sticking with my Mitschkov pick. Russian. [01:25:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:25:54] Speaker B: I think he's going to do good, good things in Philly, and I'm going to stick with that pick. I think he's still a little bit of an underdog compared to the others, but it's going to be a good. I think that's going to be one of the funnest races to watch next year. [01:26:05] Speaker A: It'll be a tight race. I think there's a lot of people. [01:26:08] Speaker B: But, yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't really have too much else. Justin, do you want to shout out anyone or. [01:26:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I mean, just shout out any of the boys I played with that Boise state, like, unforgettable memories. Shout out the team going forward. I'm going to be watching this year and years to follow. Hopefully it makes it division one at some point. Right. That would just fill my cup, being able to go to a game someday where it's division one hockey game. [01:26:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:35] Speaker C: You know, girlfriend, family, friends, and everyone that's just been a part of my career and even just now, like, what I'm doing with life. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:43] Speaker C: Grateful to be alive. Scary incident. Getting the skate to the throat. [01:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Big time. [01:26:48] Speaker C: Just kind of gotta make the most out of every day. [01:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [01:26:52] Speaker C: Thanks for having me, boys. That was fun. [01:26:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Thanks for. Thanks for coming on, Justin. I know it's been a. Been a long time coming, and. And, you know, we've been good friends for a while, so thank you for coming on. You got. You had a lot of cool stories, and you're a great person. [01:27:05] Speaker C: Like, always shout out, you, too, man. Like, we didn't talk about the fraternity at all, and that's. I mean, that's how we met, right? [01:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:12] Speaker C: I'll never forget. Cause, trav, when I was rushing the fraternity, he just was like, I got someone you gotta meet. [01:27:18] Speaker B: You like, oh, my gosh. [01:27:19] Speaker C: And I think the first thing I ever said he was, I heard your flames fan. Yeah. But think where we're at now and just all the things that, you know, we've got to do together and. [01:27:28] Speaker B: Yeah, man. For real. [01:27:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Gone. Shout out. Yeah, I'll do it. With the gods. [01:27:32] Speaker B: Gone. Yeah. Go. Go. Hooligan. The best freaking beer league b league team ever. [01:27:38] Speaker C: Hi, guys. [01:27:38] Speaker A: Thanks for watching today. We'll be back in two weeks, September. We're gonna go back to doing weekly preseason, do some what's called previews of the divisions and stuff. So predictions, more interviews coming up, and stay tuned. We'll see you guys on the next one. [01:27:54] Speaker B: Peace. Peace.