[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back, everybody. Episode number 220, galley, the good old hockey podcast.
Well, I'd say we had a pretty, pretty eventful week, especially the last couple days. I feel like there's been some pretty cool stuff, cool stories to talk about. We'll get into that. Obviously the big return for Patrick Kane. I'm excited to talk about that. Then also some trade deadline talk. With that slowly creeping up. It's faster than we think it's coming. When's the trade deadline? Like March 20 something. Do you know?
[00:00:30] Speaker B: In March eigth, dude, I want to say it's next Thursday. I want to say, yeah, shit's creeping up for sure.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Next week's pot, I think, will be very. We can try to focus. If there's nothing we can try to do. I don't know, sole trade deadline or whatever's in the news right now. But before that, how was your weekend?
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Weekend was, know Friday didn't do too much, but Saturday, went bowling. Did pretty good bowling. Then went out to downtown Meridian. Nice. Went on a hike on Saturday. It was fucking beautiful on Saturday. Like, so damn sunny.
Hope everyone got outside. That's in the Boise area, because it snowed today, which was like, what the fuck?
[00:01:18] Speaker A: I know. Down pretty hard, too.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Went from, like, 60 degrees and sunny to fucking snowing. But that's the fucking northwest Ria. And then Sunday, I had a hockey game. We needed a winner tie to make it into playoffs. In our five team league, there's four teams. I think it's six team league, whatever the fuck.
And we tied, so it was the most celebratory tie I've ever been a part of. But we made the playoffs. It's all that matters. Regular season doesn't matter. I think this year, though, my beer league team has the most ties I've ever heard of, of any hockey team having. I'm pretty sure we have more ties than losses and wins. I want to say we have, like, six or seven ties out of, like, 20 something games played. So we've tied every single team in the league. I think we've potentially lost every single team besides one team who's in last place. But, yeah, we're defending champions, so we're sneaky when it comes into the playoffs. When it's playoff times, we turn it up. So hopefully that's the case. But I'm super bummed because if we do make the finals again, I'm going to be up in Calgary, so going to probably miss the chipper game, which really fucking sucks, but we'll see. Maybe there might be a flight change in the works on that Sunday if we do make it, but we'll see.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: Are you going to go to a Flames game in Calgary or are you just going?
[00:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So March 14, I'm going up to Calgary with my girlfriend and my little brother and some of his friends, and we're going to go see a Canadians flames game go out, hit the town in Calgary. It's super fun town to go out in. Great nightlife. Calgary is one of my favorite cities in North America to go to. It's beautiful, clean.
My favorite hockey team plays there, which is a little biased, but it's a really sick city.
Some cities get bad raps being dirty and there's a lot of crime and stuff. But Calgary is like fucking squeaky clean. I don't know if it's too cold for that shit up there or what it is, but super stoked to go up to Calgary. I went up there all the time growing up, playing hockey and seeing flames games and stuff. So stoked. I haven't been up there since 2020. Last time I was up there, this is a funny story. So last time I was up there was the battle of Alberta, and it was the game Kachuck. Like, after the game, he was like, stay off the rails to Zach Cassian. It was like that famous game. One of the best battle of Alberta's, I think, of all time. So I'm stoked I got to see that. But I haven't been back since. So excited to go back up to Canada.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Wow. Where are they playing that game?
[00:03:59] Speaker B: They're playing the Canadians.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. You said that. Okay, cool.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: Yeah. So I have to give Cody some.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Big time.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: How was your weekend, though?
[00:04:09] Speaker A: Pretty good. We went to pay it on Saturday.
It was pretty fun. Got tricked into going downtown, and by tricked, I agreed to it. But beforehand they were just like, oh, yeah, let's go to pay it. And then we get there and they've already been drinking, and they're like, let's go downtown. And I'm like, fuck you. But overall, it was fun.
Downtown was pretty, wasn't that busy. I mean, pay, it was fun because it was nice out.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Shit, that must have been nice on Saturday, man.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it was busy too. There's a lot of people there.
But other than that, Friday, well, we went to end zone on Friday. That was fun.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: Oh, fuck yeah.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: End zone is always a good time. I'm never not going to have a good time there.
And then Sunday kind of just did a lot of around the house stuff, little chill day, and then today getting ready for this episode.
But with that being said, we had a pretty fun week of hockey. First thing you can kick it off galley with three stars of the week. You kind of made this list.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: So go ahead and yeah, 100% this isn't our three stars of the week. We should start doing probably our own. That might be kind of cool, but we're just going off of the NHL's three stars of the week. They announced it this morning, which this is Monday is when this is being filmed. Karil Kaprizov rounded out as the first star of the week. Then it was second star was Mitch Marner and third star was Igor Shasturkin. So, yeah, just to start off with Karil Kaprizov, first of all, you got six goals and six assists in four.
That's three points per game for all four of those games.
And looking at the standings, the Minnesota Wild, they're not out of the playoff race, so it's going to be kind of interesting what they do one at the trade deadline if they're going to try to acquire.
I mean, you want your best players firing when it comes to. Comes close to the playoffs. And I think this is a really good sign for the Minnesota Wild. And when you got a goalie like Mark andre flurry and some very talented players, I mean, low key, no one has talked about them this year, so they've kind of stayed under the radar. And a lot of times I feel like in the NHL that's good because you don't got the spotlight on you.
And especially Kuru Kaprizov. I feel like he's not the biggest personality, but holy shit, he's a really good hockey player. I mean, I want to say he's a point per game since he's been in the NHL.
I'd say he's probably top five Russian in the league. I'd probably say it's Kucharov, obviously, number one.
I mean, you can't give disrespect to Vechkin. He's just been so good all his career. So he's probably up there, say he's. I'd probably say he's three. I mean, Caprizov is pretty damn good.
Just looking at the. I'm looking at the standings right now, it looks like, yeah, the Wild are four points out of the second wild card spot.
They're 28, 24 and six. So it's definitely still a possibility. And the wild card spots are going to be very interesting in the west. There's not that many points between three or four teams outside of the second wild card spot. But I don't know. You got anything to add on Kaprizov?
[00:07:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, Kaprizov, I feel like you said with the Wild, he's been pretty quiet in terms of in the news, but man, six goals, six assists, which also reminds me of someone else who we can get into later, but Austin Matthews freaking hitting 50 goals and 51 goals in 54 games. Crazy. Yeah, we could talk about that later, but, yeah, I mean, you hit it on the head there.
I'd give him three. At currently top Russians in the Mat vay Mitchikov has a very similar situation that Kaprizov was in. Know he kind of had to stay in Russia for a bit to finish out his contract and then come out to the states and then he could play. So we'll see if maybe him and Mitchkov have this. Like, we'll see who is the best Russian out of there.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: But yeah, he's got 297 points in 254 games. So Kaprizov has been lighting up the league since he's been in. I mean, holy shit. 2021, 22, 108 points.
That's pretty savage. So, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how the Minnesota Wild finish out their season. So, yeah, we can just go on to the second star, Mitch Marner. He's got one goal and nine assists through four games played this past week. I think a big part of that probably assisting Matthew's goals somewhat, and I think last week was when that ten to seven game happened, that high afs scoring game. So he probably racked up some points there. But Mitch Martyr just consistent. He's good every year.
Leafs are on a heater, right?
They're. I think they might have actually lost last night, but last time I checked, they were on a seven game win streak.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: Good for them.
They've had this core of these three players and they just haven't been able to get anything done. We'll see in the playoffs. I don't know. I don't believe in the Leafs. I know you don't either.
I believe in Mitch Marner and Austin Matthews and everyone else that's on that team. But I don't know what it think. I truly think they are cursed and it's hard to say that they're mean, especially recently. They have a younger group of players that I think can pan out. But it's good to see Mitch Marner being talked about because he is a good player. I think he's a great player, obviously, with ten points in a week.
I mean, that's pretty much what McDavid had last week. He had ten assists. Got player of the week last week or three. Star of the.
Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: No, Mitch Marner is super good. I know there's been actually some talks here and there. I've seen some mock trades with him leaving Toronto, but if I was Toronto, I'd keep him for his whole mean, he's from the greater Toronto area. And I just feel like Mitch Marner is a solid player to have on your team, both just personality wise, leadership and his play. I mean, he's a hell of a playmaker. He can score.
Yeah, well, well deserved there. But I believe he's having a pretty damn good season as well. Probably a little overshadowed by Austin Matthews. His fucking breaking records and shit.
Yeah, just to go into the third star. So this is the goalie of the hottest team in the NHL right now. They actually did lose last night, so their ten game streak ended, but it's Igor Shasturkin. He went three and o last week.
I think he was a big part of that ten game win streak.
And one thing I know we're going to get into it later, but the Rangers are looking pretty legit. I'm very excited to see what they do at the trade deadline because every trade deadline they're always making big to. They're going to be definitely a danger coming up once they make the postseason. It's going to be interesting because I feel like last year was a humongous letdown for them. So they're going to come back pretty hungry.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree.
Yeah. I mean, I think the Rangers, I don't know, my thing, it's so hard to call a team to win the cup at this point just because the playoffs are just a different.
I mean, I feel like people were talking about this with the Knights last year, but it's not guaranteed. I don't. I mean, if Igor's on fire in the playoffs, I think like he was this week, I think it's game over for.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: That.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: He's arguably the best player in the league or best goalie in the.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: So I would think so. I mean, maybe sorokin, but I think they're pretty neck and neck, but. Yeah.
Do you have anything else you want to say on Igor?
[00:13:01] Speaker B: Not really. Just looking at his stats. Yeah. Holy shit. I mean, last week he let in one goal per game. So three goals total in the whole week was sitting around like a zero point 95 save percentage for each of those games. So you need a goalie to play like that. And when you're playing the Dallas Stars, New Jersey Devils, and Philadelphia Flyers and those three games, that's pretty legit.
Yeah, I think the New York Rangers are looking pretty nasty, especially with this Matt rempet.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Rem.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: Let's get into him first since he's up. So in the last four games, he's had, what?
Four fights in the last five games played in the NHL.
He got a goal the other night, which was awesome.
But what I think is interesting about him with everything is I don't feel like the whole enforcer type of player isn't really a part of the league as much as it used to.
It's still there, obviously, but it seems like every game he's played, he's had to pretty much prove himself, and I think it's because of how much attention he's getting in the media.
[00:14:20] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: Talking about it, which means everyone else is talking about it, too.
And, yeah, those fights, he's had some pretty gnarly fights.
Who did he fight against?
[00:14:37] Speaker B: Delore.
Delore. A little hard name. French name for me, but, yeah, I think my question is, was that fight fight of the year?
[00:14:48] Speaker A: I think so. I mean, we don't really get a whole lot of.
I feel like. I don't know how to say this. Yeah, I think it was fight of the year, just based off of everything and just, like, the story behind him. And at that point, that was his, what, fourth fight in the fifth game?
And it seemed like every day on my timeline, there was a Matt rem fight. Shown up every time I scrolled, at least, like, every hour or so. But in that fight, I mean, Delore got. He won the fight, technically, if you want to look at it that way. But I don't know if you saw the picture of them both in the box, I would say Matt Remp won that fight, even though, yeah, he got taken down, whatever, but he kicked his ass.
DeLorean is not the biggest guy. He's tall, but Matt Remp also just makes him look like a pip squeak.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Holy shit. Six foot, 8240 pounds.
That's a specimen. That's a specimen in any sport, let alone hockey. I feel like hockey players are not usually that big. I mean, that's like fucking chara size.
That's pretty raw.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Chara was an outlier. It's not like the NBA, where they're all that. Yeah, he's definitely big, dude. I think he has.
I want to say, I don't know if this is accurate anymore, but he had had less than a minute of time on ice. But he had like 27 penalty minutes. I'll pull up the graphic, but yeah, he had like, I have it saved on my phone, actually.
Yeah, he's been. I mean, if you're like a veteran, someone who's known for fighting and you see this, know, getting all this attention, you're going to want to challenge him. And with DeLorean, I know they were talking before the game, too. Just kind of warm ups, like they were going to get it on.
I can't find that photo. But we'll mean, I think he's definitely a good asset to the mean. It all started with that fight in the what's called stadium series game that we talked about.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, I feel like with that specific fight. Yeah, I know the stadium series game. I mean, that was like his introduction into the league, which is pretty crazy. But that Delore fight, I feel like you don't see fights like that in the NHL a lot of the time. I feel like you see that more in the coast league and same with the AHL. But just to see that fight, that sort of caliber of a fight and lengthy fight in the NHL, I think that's what gets one. The crowd, fans loving watching the game, both being there, but also on tv. But it just brings a lot of attention to hockey, whether people like it or not and are against fighting or for fighting, I think it is a very unique part of the sport and it needs to stay okay. For anyone listening, that is against fighting.
That's one of the things that separates hockey than from any other sport.
Yeah, I'd say it's the fight of the year, possibly the fight of the past ten years. I haven't seen a fight that good in a while. I mean, they were fucking teeing off on each other. I've seen some knockouts and whatnot, but for two players to be teeing off on each other going ham, like.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: It was cool to see. Yeah. Let's see. Up next, showtime, Patrick Kane. What a. Like a. I'm kind of pissed I wasn't able to watch it because I don't have network. Um, and shame on you, NHL, to like, no one has cable anymore. Like, you got this freaking ESPN plus that we'll have to buy to watch the games. And then you're like, oh, let's throw it on NHL network, something no one can watch. They did that same thing with the world juniors, but I saw a lot of all the highlights and stuff like that. Start off, I mean, Chris Cellios, when he was like. I mean, it was Chris Cellios night, they were retiring his number, which is awesome.
Great to see. I mean, I know in the past a lot of Chicago fans have not liked Cellios because of the whole trade thing, going to especially rival like, Detroit, which was actually kind of funny that he got jersey retired while they were playing Detroit, the team that he left to, that everyone hated. But yeah, he was like, patrick Kane, don't steal my thunder tonight. And boy, did he.
[00:19:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: Honestly, that just gave me the chills. Like, that whole overtime sequence of him doing what he does best. And then if I were a, like, if I don't know if Joe Thornton or Patrick Marl were to do that to the Sharks or Joe Pavelski, dude, I'd be so happy. I wouldn't care that we lost.
And it seemed like the arena was pretty loud cheering, which is good to know, especially he's got a lot of good memories in Chicago, and to have that as your first game, it's special.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought it was one of the, like, I feel like there's been a little bit of talk about this in the NHL this year, but just like, tributes to players coming back. I mean, I remember one like Pierre engball played few seasons for the Leafs and he got a tribute, which was. I saw a lot of people clowning on that. Whatever about mean. I don't really have a take on that, but I thought Patrick Kane's return was one of the best tributes I've ever seen to a player returning. And holy shit, it was like they gave him three go arounds of him skating, putting his stick up. So, yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. I thought it was pretty cool.
Kind of shoved him back out. Mean Patrick Kane's. He's going to go down as probably one of the most legendary hawks players and sports figures in Chicago.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Best american. I think he's going to go down as the best american player of all time.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Until Austin Matthews.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
I don't know. Yeah. I could see that if he's getting these goal records, but I truly think even if Matthews has a great career and maybe it's just my bias, watching Patrick Kane as a kid growing up.
I don't know. Patty Kane was so.
Is.
Sometimes there's film of him playing. Not sometimes there's film of him playing back in when he first started. Back in what, 2008? Nine or when did he start playing?
[00:21:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I think 2008.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah, there's film of him as a young kid playing in the NHL, and he has not lost that today. He was miles above everyone at that age. At that time, I think he kind of won. Revolutionized stick handling in general.
I remember as a kid watching his videos, him stick handling through all those pucks with the GoPro on, and I tried to recreate that. I got hands of rock, I got hands of steel. I don't have soft hands like him, but I tried my best to replicate that, and I don't know, he was something else and still is. I'm not speaking of the past. He clearly showed that.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, showtime. I mean, both you and I, I remember watching him growing up. I'm like, holy fuck, dude. Patrick Kane is so sick. I remember that. I want to say it was around, like, 2010 and 2015. Around that time, he had one season where he fucking scored, like, over 120 points. It was just the best player in the league that season. But I'd probably say, do you think Patrick Kane was the biggest part of the cup runs for Chicago?
[00:23:12] Speaker A: I mean, that team was so stacked just with talent and good players, just like Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Jonathan Patrick Sharp. Marion Hosa.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: Marion Hosa.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: Yeah. There's so many names on that team that it's tough to give it all to one player. I mean, I think definitely he's the biggest name, especially when they beat Philadelphia.
That overtime goal still gives me chills, too. Just that last minute, like, where'd the puck go? And it's just Patrick Kane being a fucking wizard and somehow able to score like that. But I truly think he was miles above everyone.
And Austin Matthews is good, but we're in a different age of hockey, and I don't know, it's too hard to compare eras. I hate doing. Yeah, it is tough, but my one factor, it's with what I say with Gretzky and kind of the same with Kane is just their level of skill above everyone else. Same with Sidney Crosby and Ovechkin.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah, but, yeah, dude, as a 35 year old, too, he's won on an eight game point streak. He's had twelve points in those eight games, which is pretty savage for a 35 year old. So I feel like, yeah, he's getting older, but damn, dude, he doesn't look like he's changed too much. And he's had some injury struggles over the past couple of years, so I think that's affected him a little bit. But he's back.
But not only that, the Red Wings are pretty hot right now. They have a five game win streak. They're in a playoff spot. I want to say their first wild card right now in the mean. My question is, are the Red Wings legit or are they a know they? They have a decently good team, but I don't. What's, what's your take on?
[00:25:18] Speaker A: Honestly, like, just with the story that's all around them and they've had some trouble here and there. I know Dylan Larkin last year wasn't sure if he was going to stay or not.
Obviously they got him resigned, which is awesome to have your captain like that who wanted to play with you.
And then getting to Brinkett and then Kane too, like out of the east. They're one of my favorites. Just personally on a bias.
Yeah. That I want them to win.
I don't know that their goaltending can hold up with the east and just how talented it.
I mean, they're winning right now, so it's hard to say. What do you think?
[00:26:04] Speaker B: I don't think they're a contender necessarily, unless they have a really strong end of the year. I just feel like the one thing they've been struggling with is goaltending. So, I mean, we could potentially see them in the market for a goaltender come trade deadline, which we'll get.
I mean, I just feel like the east is so fucking stacked. It's going to be hard for them to toe in against other teams. But they are looking good right now. So they're definitely going to make the playoffs, but I don't see them going too far.
There's too many powerhouses in the east that are going to knock them out, that have just a little bit better all around teams.
I mean, Steve Eiserman's put together a pretty good team for this year coming off of Detroit's past few years, which haven't been as well.
So I feel like they're going to be dangerous for the next couple of years, especially if they do keep Kane.
But yeah, this year they've just been a little inconsistent. But like I said, if they do finish off the year strong, I think they're kind of a dark horse.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Yeah, no, they for sure mean. I'm so excited for playoffs again. I said this probably every episode, but I don't know, there's something about NHL playoffs and just all the drama leading up to it. It's just like a perfect, I don't know, climax, I guess you could say.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: No, 100%. I'm fucking so stoked. And it's like two months away.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's getting close. I was thinking about that like a couple of minutes ago. I was just like, holy shit, it's March, which means in a month from now, we're like a week away from playoffs. So I'm excited. I'm excited. We have a podcast to talk about this shit with and everything like that, but let's get into trade deadline. Yeah, march eigth, which, if you're listening to this when this comes out, which is what, the 20 eigth.
We're pretty much week and a half right now until that trade deadline. Break it down for us with the Flames.
Just what you're seeing, definitely.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: I mean, I know there's been a lot of talk about the Flames. I think if any team, I'd probably say the Flames, possibly the Penguins, too, have a lot of talk surrounding them in terms of selling teams. But I think the three biggest teams that are going to be selling are the calorie Flames, Pittsburgh Penguins, and New York Islanders.
Out of those three, I mean, we can just start off with the Flames. I know I've talked about this the past couple of podcasts. They do have expiring contracts of two top four defensemen. I know for sure Hanifin's not going to return. I don't think Chris Tanev is either, just because the direction of what the team's going for, I think they're kind of trying to accelerate their rebuild.
Two really talented defensemen.
Tan Am is a little bit more defensive, where Hanifin's kind of a two way defender, and then also Jacob Markstrom's been thrown around the name. He was reportedly going to go to New Jersey, but the big thing that held New Jersey and that deal up was supposedly they were trying to get calorie to retain salary, which it's kind of crazy. That's what it came down to, is retaining a salary off of a player that has two more years left on his contract. You'd think those GMs would have been able to get something done or a compromise of something, but it's crazy. That's the reason it fell.
I mean, with, with, it's. They're in such an interesting spot because they do have a lot of older assets, which they could move, which are good. I mean, Nazm Khadri is another name I've seen thrown around, and same with Blake Coleman. So they could get some pretty good returns for all those players I listed, especially Markstorm out of.
I think, you know, Hanifin, possibly Tanev. Those players are going to get first round picks. And then if you throw Markstrom in there, I mean, Markstorm is going to get a lot. So, yeah, I don't know. What's your take on the flames?
[00:30:07] Speaker A: I mean, we kind of talked about this last episode.
I feel like the flames, that was kind of mean, the Flames.
The Flames do have a lot of pieces that I think these teams that are making a playoff push could use.
And like I said, I mean, trade deadlines, the best time that you're going to have at least that best return, you're going to get on these players.
And even if some of these teams may be okay with taking Hannah Fingertana for just a year and they get rid of some picks and they're like, we're making a push. We just need that last piece of the puzzle so it could work out in both teams favors.
And I think, yeah, like you said, just trying to accelerate that rebuild, and it's a long process, and if you don't get started on it, you're just delaying any time on good.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: And as a Flames fan diehard, I really want them to move these players. It sounds bad. I mean, I'd love if they move these players and still made the playoffs. That'd be nice. But I'm just sick of the Flames being mediocre and kind of sitting in the middle of the table because if they don't move them, these players are going to walk. And for, um.
I don't know, it's gonna be interesting to see what Calgary does. I'm almost positive that they're going to move at least Hannah Finn, Tanav, too.
But shit, if they start the fire sale and start throwing Mark Strum, Blake Coleman, Nazam Khadri around, I mean, that's like a total roster flip. So, yeah, it'd be very interesting to see what the flames do, but moving on to our next team, we got the Pittsburgh Penguins. They're going to be another seller, in my opinion. I know probably the biggest name in the trade deadline right now is Jake Gensel.
He's been in a lot of news for him getting think, you know, the biggest thing with the Penguins is they're the oldest team in the league.
They have a very slim prospect pool as well.
And if they don't make moves necessarily right now, it could get really ugly in the coming years once Crosby and Malkin depart. And same with Carlson, too. I mean, it's crazy. They traded for Carlson and they're kind of failing right now as a team. I mean, I feel like myself included, I had such higher expectations for the to be. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting what the pens do. I think Jake Gensel is going to get moved. To where? I don't necessarily know. I feel like something tells me that he could potentially get moved to a team like Vegas or a team like Detroit, possibly even mean. There's. There's definitely a lot of teams that would love to have Jake Gensel. He's an excellent player. I know a lot of people have been know is he as good without Crosby?
Because I know Crosby's been kind of alongside him his whole career. So that's one thing. Like, Chris Kunitz was another player that was always alongside Crosby. I've seen a lot of comparisons to Chris Kunitz and once he know he wasn't that. I mean, do you think Jake Gensel is still going to keep it up outside of being with.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Think he's.
I think he's good enough that he can thrive in other environments, but in mean, it's hard with this deadline talk. Last year, I felt like there was a Patrick Kane, Terrasenko, Timo Meyer. It was a pretty big bidding war.
This year.
I don't know, nothing super crazy, but Jake Gensel, I think he's the biggest name on here. Unless you. I mean, Mark Sham could be valuable assets, people, but that's if they even trade.
Definitely. Yeah, for sure. The Penguins just, I don't know. I love that they wanted Carlson really bad, but if Carlson's the best player on the Sharks and he's putting that stuff up, those points up. Yeah, I'm sure he can do that. But in the, it just, I didn't smell a lot of benefits coming from it, and I think the Sharks got a better end of the deal on that because for the Penguins, you just kind of got to try it and be like, you can't say no to.
Didn't like, the sharks totally didn't fleece them or anything. They didn't get like a ton out of it, but I felt like it was pretty fair, but I don't know.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: Yeah, and I feel like the pens, they're old. Yeah, they're so old. I mean, I feel like I've seen some other names Lars Eller has been thrown around. Same with be. I think they're definitely going to move gensel. I feel like there's too much talk around it that they wouldn't.
But the pens are looking like they're going to miss the playoffs. So I'd say, you know, especially like, in a stacked conference, I think you gotta start moving some mean. I remember growing up, I loved Crosby. It would be crazy to see Crosby on another team. I don't think they'll do it, but.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: He'S going to be a penguin for life, and I respect he's. He's gotten three. Mean, you always want more, but it'd be tough. I don't know if I could picture him on another team.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: I don't think I could. That's one player. I'm like, there's no fucking, like, probably, like, ovechkin's up there. Like, I couldn't see Ovechkin on another team either.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: I thought Patrick Kane, too, though. I didn't see him playing anywhere else.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: But that is true.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: Those two, for mean, I think those two are way more like. No, like, they couldn't play anywhere else type.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: But, yeah, going on to the next team, though. We'll just finish it. New York Islanders.
And they've been kind of a boring team this year. I know we've talked about them before. Fall fucking sleep every time I watch them, I swear. But they do have a lot of veterans coming up with expiring contracts, so it's going to be interesting to see how their management takes on this trade deadline.
I mean, for example, they got Anders Lee, Kyle Parmeri, Brock Nielsen pad Joe. So, I mean, those are names that any team could benefit from going into the playoffs.
And right now, I don't think they're going to make the playoffs necessarily unless Sorokin just somehow fucking stands on his head. But right now, I don't slot him in the playoffs. So I think they're going to be a big seller coming up in this trade deadline, and they could get some. Like I said, those are some pretty good names thrown around, so they could get pretty good returns for them, but I just feel like this is the time.
They're not necessarily leaning too hard to a massive rebuild, but I feel like if they could use this trade deadline, they can be a pretty solid team. Next.
[00:37:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, my stance on the very, very boring, but.
[00:38:04] Speaker B: Islanders. You said Oilers.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: Oh, sorry. Islanders. My God.
Yeah, islanders. Very boring team.
But it worked for them last year, that style of play. And one, I would hate to be a player on that team. Feeling the wrath of Patrick Wa as your head coach, especially if they're 7th in the metro right now.
I would be shaking in my boots, but, yeah, I don't. It's with those veteran players, it's like a team could use them, but what are you really going to get out of it? Like maybe 4th, 5th round pick, which could be mean.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: I think they could get a pretty good haul for at least other. Yeah, the other three names, Nelson, Padgot and mean, probably not going to get too much for them, but I think you could get some decent prospects for each of those players, maybe package the players together. So it's interesting what the Islanders do, but I feel like they're going to have to make some moves just because I feel like they're in a good spot to be either the same team as they were this year, next year or they could spice some things up and slot in some new players to the lineup. So, going to be interesting what the Islanders do.
[00:39:25] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I don't know what they're going to like in terms of New York. I like the Rangers more, so the Islanders, I don't like their team. Doesn't really stand out to mean, don't get me wrong, they've got great players, but I don't they patrick y I think is a great hire for a coach, but it's going to take some time for them to get used to that.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: Definitely.
And yeah, to just round out this whole trade deadline tycoon. I know we're going to be talking about it a lot next week and who knows, maybe some of these players might even be moved. These teams will be trading players away, but in my opinion, and you could chime in on mean or add any other teams, but I think the biggest buyers are going to be Vegas. The Rangers, obviously, we talked about that earlier, the Avalanche and the Bruins.
Some of these teams are kind of pulling some tricky long term injured reserve tricks where the players come back in the playoffs. So not saying it's wrong because it's not against the rules, but damn, does it feel like cheating?
[00:40:39] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it does. And it's like, I don't know. I know the Knights got away with it last year, but if it's in the rulebook and it's allowed, that's just where NHL needs to make a change.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: Eichel and Mark Stoner on the LTI are right now that freeze up like fucking almost 20 mil in space. So Vegas could get really good at the trade deadline, but they're going to have to trade away some assets to getting any big names. So I could see Vegas picking up some players from the Islanders, like a Paul Mary or like a pajo, because I feel like Vegas, they can turn average players into impact.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: I don't know how they do it, honestly, but yeah, I think the Knights, I don't think they're going to win the cup this year if I'm being honest.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: I think they have this. Well, I don't know, though, if Mark Stone and Jack Heichle come back or are back by playoff time, I know they have another name on their team, like a big name, then I'm going to shoot myself. But I don't know that the Knights are set up for the future.
I know that their owner, which is smart, he went for the cup in six years and got it. Good on you. But they've traded away some pieces.
I mean, they got rid of who they, I think they got Max Pacheretti in that trade, getting rid of Nick.
[00:42:28] Speaker B: Suzuki, which Pacheretti is on the fucking capitals.
[00:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah, like it was a quick rental, but I don't, don't.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: They did good with it, though.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: They did. They won a cup and that's all you can ask for. But are they going to, what is going to a rebuild going to look like for them? Because, I mean, Mark Stone is mean. Jack Eichel's still, he's in his prime, right? Yeah, he's getting freaking hurt, but he's a great player.
[00:43:00] Speaker B: Yeah. It's going to be interesting to see them, if they ever do rebuild because I feel like they're a team that they're trying to skip the rebuild and it's been successful for them.
So it's going to be interesting coming around. I hate to say it, and this might make you mad, they remind me of the Tampa Bay Lightning when they, their second season when they had a bunch of players on the injured reserve. So it is going to be interesting to see what Vegas does at the deadline. But I mean, going off these other teams, I know we talked about the Rangers already. They're going to have to ball out a little bit. They always do.
We'll see, though. I feel like they have a pretty good roster right now, so it might be kind of stupid to move any players, but I mean, the Avalanche, they're kind of a team that I wouldn't say they've flown on the radar. They've been good all season, but they also have Landiscog on the injury reserve, so that frees up some cap space for them. I've also seen Gensel slotted in going to the abs. That would be like. The Abs would be a big threat if they get gensel.
[00:44:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the mean, they've already won a cup and I think last year what hurt them was injuries and just players not being completely ready.
But this, I mean, shit, they're one of my favorites in the west, I think, for the cup.
I know Vancouver is doing good still Edmonton's Edmonton, but it's hard to bet against the Avalanche. Yeah. If they're able to again leverage that rule. Like, if it's like, what are you going to do? I can't get too mad about it because it's allowed at the end of the day, but I don't know.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like we got to do a deep dive into how the NHL could fix that. I think that would be a good thing for the offseason. And just to round out, too, with this conversation, I know we haven't talked about it too much, but the Boston Bruins, they have two elite goaltenders.
[00:45:09] Speaker A: They do.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: I feel like they're going to move one of them at the trade deadline. I've heard Swayman's name a lot, and I think the Bruins, they could benefit a lot offensively from mean. There's a lot of teams that need goalies right now, so they could get a pretty big haul for Swayman. I don't know if they'd trade Olmark. I know Swayman does kind of have the age on Omar, but I think the Bruins are definitely going to be another team. And just some honorable mentions. I think the Dallas Stars are also going to be pretty active as, um, and then probably the Tampa Bay Lightning, I'd say.
[00:45:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, you kind of just have, like, it's just a competitive can't.
You don't want your rival to get this player and then it's going to screw.
I don't think Florida is really going to be buying much. They have a pretty solid want as Boston. You wouldn't want Florida to go out and get someone big and really too, like, you don't want them to go out and get these offensive players or whatever that's going to help them beat you.
So it just gets competitive and you're like, these teams want to buy players when maybe they shouldn't.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I feel like it's a double edged sword, though. I feel like with a trade deadline, you can fucking lose some very valuable assets for a rental. And I've seen some examples of that happening in the past and bites the team in the ass a few years down the road.
Like you said, I don't think it's as flashy of a trade deadline as some previous years have been, but I do think that some teams are going to.
Yeah, who knows? I mean, it could get pretty flashy next week, but I do think some teams are going to be moving some key players and acquiring some key players.
Yeah, I'm stoked for next Friday, man.
[00:47:09] Speaker A: Yeah, no, me too.
Maybe on Saturday we could do like a quick live stream in the morning or something, just kind of recapping if there's anything. Like, if it's pretty boring, I wouldn't say it's worth. But if there's some big name that gets traded, I think it's worth us hopping on a Saturday and just chitchatting. Or even if it's pretty short but just reacting to it. But that wraps up episode number 20.
We are now week 20 into the NHL, which is crazy shit this season.
It's been crazy the first half. I feel like the news and drama hasn't been totally crazy.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: After the all star break, it's definitely slowed.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: I mean, now we get freaking NHL playoffs, so it doesn't even matter. Now we just get good hockey and seeing these teams round out. But if anyone listening, if you guys have anything that you guys want us to touch on, send us an email.
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