Episode Transcript
[00:00:10] Speaker A: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Good Old Hockey podcast. This is episode number 37. We were in the heat of it in the middle of the Stanley Cup Finals. We just watched two Stanley cup final games, and I'm pumped for this episode and for the next week, week and a half. Could be. We don't know.
Obviously, Panthers are ahead in the series 20.
We record this Tuesday night, so this will be to you guys Wednesday morning.
Game three is on Thursday, so you'll have a couple days to listen to this before.
Yeah, that game three. But we're just going to recap the first two games and then get into a little mock draft for the NHL draft. At least picks one through ten, because guess what? The boys right here, we're going to the Stanley cup or Stanley cup final. We're going to the NHL drafts in Vegas. I wish we were, but, um, yeah, going to the drafting awards in Vegas at the end of the month. So we're going to get ready for that and make some mock drafts because we're going to be witnessing it live. But before we get into all this stuff, galley, how was your weekend? Slash.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: Weekend? Weekend was good. Um, Friday night hit up a boise Hawks game. It's hotter than f. I guess we're past the 1 minute mark, but, yeah, it was pretty. Pretty dang hot.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: Um. But, yeah, it was. It was a good night when, uh.
When, uh, this, like, we accidentally stumbled upon this, like, Edm festival across the street. What of the Boise Hawks game at this place called the Heritage social club, which shout out here to show social club. You guys have so much potential. The only thing I am upset about is they always are asking for cover charges. But we were just like, yo, we came right back from the Boise Hawks game. Like, can you guys let us in? And they let us in, but it was an interesting situation. And then we went back to end zone and typical night, but then, yeah, Saturday night, we both. You and I got after it.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah, we did. We watched game one of stanley cup finals and, I mean, we were watching at a friend's house and had a couple beers, and then, I don't know, the night just kind of got away from me, I guess. I didn't really realize it till it was too late. And I woke up the next morning and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Checked the bank account, wasn't doing too hot, but same here.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: The bank account got drained on Saturday night. It was a good. It was a good time.
The Oilers lost, so I was pretty stoked on it. They lost game two too, which we'll get into. But, yeah, Sunday just, just chilled. I was going to go to a third eye blind concert, but we did decided not to go because it was raining. But besides Saturday night, how was your weekend, man?
[00:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it was good. Friday took it pretty light. I stayed indoors or inside that night, actually. Me and my brother actually went to a pickup hockey game and played with some people. Shout out, will, if you're listening, I know you've listened to a couple of our episodes. Um, played out there, got my ass kicked. Um, just with stamina. And then, yeah, Friday night, went to bed, woke up Saturday and got after because I was ready. I was ready for the game. Um, super excited. And it was a great game to watch, which we'll get into it. But I will say I told you about the tequila soda lime and how I was trying to see how that worked. The next day, I felt great. I felt fine. It was a little. Little tiring, a little out of it, like, head fog wise, but it's a pretty good drink, and it really doesn't hurt too bad in the next morning like, some of the other drinks you can get downtown, so might be sticking to that, but it's very dangerous because you have little too many. Yeah. Could slip away from you.
[00:04:03] Speaker B: Dude, I love the pineapple tequilas. That's my, like, that's my go to for mixed drinks with tequilas. I love it. But anything outside of that, I'm like, uh, just tequila overpowers it for me.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: It does, but you got to try it next time because the extra lime in there, like, it tastes. It's kind of like a sprite almost to me. Um, obviously, you get the taste of tequila, but it's a good mixture. Anyways, this is not a drinking pod. This is a hockey podcast. But what else did I do? Sunday, went to my grandparents house. They just got a house here in Boise.
Went and saw them with my parents, and, yeah, had a good, chill Sunday dinner, and then last night, watched game two, which was a great game as well. And I think we're ready. I think it's time to jump into this Stanley cup final. I, first off, I'm just excited that this is happening. Just the Stanley cup finals.
I don't know. First thoughts? Let's just break off of that. What are your first thoughts of the last? The first two games?
[00:05:05] Speaker B: I like, honestly, I'm shocked about Edmonton. I mean, they came in on a lot of their players were on pace to break records or companies. At least they had one of the best iv five offenses, one of the best power plays, one of the best kills. I mean, they were dominating in terms of statistically or statistics, but for them to only put up one goal over two games, I don't think anyone saw that coming. I thought these were going to be kind of high scoring games, especially the way Edmonton kind of rolls like that.
But not only that, I think this just shows that Florida is such a good team defensively. I mean, they have such a good offense that's defensive. They have a great decor, but then they have one of the best goalies in the league.
And I think Bob Rosski really showed that game one, showed that game two. I mean, game one, I was blown away, though. His, his play, game one. And for him to get a shutout, insane. I mean, he's got a nine, a zero save percentage throughout two games, which, to be fair, he's got that one shut out. But I mean, to do that against the Edmonton Oilers, dry style and McDavid, you know, some, I know it was one of our key points that they needed to be going for the series, and they are not going to now. They're down to. But what are your initial thoughts on this series, though?
[00:06:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, first thoughts before we look at anything. Deep dive.
Yeah, everything you said, same thing. I also thought, like, with how well Bobrovsky's played, yeah, he's let in a goal, but the goal that he let in was like such a fluke. Like, of course he lets that in after standing on his head in the first shot one, it's just like a fluke little five hole shot that goes in. But, you know, he stayed locked in the rest of the game and, I mean, I've been kind of hammering it all playoffs, I feel like, and Florida's four check is unbelievable. I don't, I don't think I've watched a team do that recently better than them just being able to keep the puck in the other team's defensive zone and not let them break the puck out. And I think it's kind of, you know, Edmonton has some ways to break that with. I mean, I think they're only, their only real, like, strategy in terms of trying to get past Florida's four check is just give the puck to McDavid and let him skate coast to coast. And it works from time to time. It gets them out of the defensive zone. But aside from that, when you've got lines two through four playing like they've got, they've had nothing. So, yeah, I don't know. I think it's just been, overall a great performance.
I mean, I think if we start. Let's start with game one.
I thought that obviously, it was kind of shocking that the Panthers had so little shots in game one. I mean, I feel like they've been out shooting their opponent every game in the playoffs.
So to see that, and even McDavid had mentioned, like, them losing that game, even though they outshot the Panthers, they were like, McDavid was like, this maybe is just the hockey gods getting us back for game six against Dallas, where that happened to them, where they got out shot by Dallas, but still won that game off to the Stanley cup finals and happens to them. Game one of the Stanley cup finals. So I don't know. I think all these games, these past two games have been fun to watch. But what do you think about game one?
[00:08:47] Speaker B: I mean, I think Edmonton did not have a bad game, game one. I think that they were pressing hard, offensively, especially.
But, like, dude, the Panthers like their defense and especially freaking Rosski. Like, I feel like I always fumble his name for some reason. It's kind of a tongue twister for me, but kind of, that's just me. But, yeah, dude, I mean, this guy, for him to one stand on his head against the best offense possibly, I mean, it's. It's arguably one of the best offenses the playoffs have ever seen.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: I mean, by far, with McDavid, Hyman, Tristyle, bouchard, I mean, all of them playing lights out, and for him to go out and get a shutout, that game won was unbelievable. And I don't think the Oilers had a bad game whatsoever.
He had some insane saves. Some saves where I remember we were watching it and whole room was watching it. People were jumping and yelling shit. No one's necessarily a big fan of the Panthers. I know you are, but I mean, holy crap, man.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Like, that was one of the best games I've ever seen a goaltender play in the Stanley cup final, if not Stanley cup playoffs or hockey in general. I mean, he stood on his head. I don't think that the Panthers didn't play well. I don't think they played their full game as much as they did, at least game two, but, yeah, man. Holy. Holy shit. Like, what a game by the Panthers defensively, and I feel like both of these games have just shown that they are, they're a hard knit, they're a hard team to score against one, but they're a tight knit group that is really in your face defensively, and I feel like that comes with their four check offensively, it's, like, weird to say they're defensive offensively in that perspective, but, yeah, man, I thought it was, it was pretty badass, too, that, that headlock that could shock McDavid into.
[00:10:51] Speaker A: Yeah. In game one. Yeah, some of you guys might have missed that. It was on our instagram, though, so go follow that if you're not. We're going to plug it every episode we can. We're trying to hit 500 and we're so close. We're almost there by the end of the playoffs, and I think. I think we're going to do it. Pretty confident in that. But, yeah, game one. I mean, overall, it's. It was unbelievable to watch Bobrovsky do what he does, and I also didn't, like, realize or put into perspective, but Bobrovsky's 36, 36 years old and he.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Crazy.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he, I mean, out of both of these goalies, he definitely deserves a cup opposed to the other side. You know, he's had a great career, a lot of different teams, and have never really been able to fit like he has with the Panthers, though. Like, he's been even last year, like, he stood on his head for them and, I mean, last year, I think for the Panthers, half of their team was injured in the Stanley cup final and they're playing against a great, great Vegas team and just got unlucky. But this year, we're seeing a fully healthy, for the time being, knock on wood, fully healthy Florida Panther team. And they look lights out. Like, it's just unbelievable.
For game two, I feel like the momentum kind of shifted. I feel like Edmonton had a lot of control that first game, but Bobrovski just did what he does.
But game two, I thought Panthers really showed and they were ready to play.
I just thought it was a great showing by them again.
Yeah. Showed their depth.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Evan Rodriguez scoring two goals was like, what? You know, I mean, I feel like no one would have slated him to score a multi goal game in the Stanley cup final, but, I mean, they came out to play and, yeah, like you said again, I mean, their defense and their goaltending showed out. I, I thought Edmonton was incredible for that first period. I thought they were going to at least take it.
But then once Florida, I mean, I was in the middle of a game for part of this game, too. I was in a three v three game last night, but I remember seeing the score and it was, it was two one Florida after Edmonton was up 10 for a long time. So, yeah, I mean, they just, they must have came back one and then was full that ejected game two, right?
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Yes, he did. So what happened? I don't know if you saw it on or, like, if you saw the replays at all or anything, but I did see it.
It was a.
I mean, I think the theme of these past two games and really just the whole playoffs, I feel like some of the officiating has been all over the place. I know a lot of people like to point fingers at the Panthers and be like, why are they getting away with all this? But I don't. I don't. I don't know. This officiating has been really weird to me. This Stanley cup playoffs and especially the final, these last two games. They're just calling some really weird stuff. And I don't think that that fogel ejection was wrong. He definitely stuck his knee out, and that's just a dangerous play. Yeah, it's a dangerous play in youth hockey when I played.
It's dangerous play in NHL hockey when these guys are flying around the ice, that's an easy way to blow out a knee of yourself or your opponent. And, you know, you never want to see that.
I mean, we had Florida, obviously doing their Florida stuff.
EcBlad putting Bouchard in a. Basically a chokehold. And Evan Bouchard's, like, tapping out if you saw that.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: You guys listening who haven't seen that? Go look at that video for Boucher to, like, tap on that. I was like, dude, I know, dude, come on now. Like, I get it. Like, maybe he was. It's like, maybe not a joking matter. Maybe he was actually losing air. And a lot of injuries can come from that, especially if no refs or eyes on it. But, like, to tap out, like, it's just. I know it was mind blown. I was like, what? What is happening right now? But that's how Florida plays. They play on the line. They get away with some stuff that people may question, but at the end of the day, this is playoff hockey. And I think these refs need to put these whistles away because there was a lot of calls, a lot of penalties. Yeah, game two, where I was like, for both sides, too. Like, obviously I have money on the Panthers. I'm biased, but I thought it was even for, like, panthers were getting power plays. And I'm like, that is not a penalty on Edmonton. So I don't know how it is, but there is one controversial hit that was made. I know I, Leon Dreisel against Alexander Barkov.
It did injure him.
And I think this is very mixed. I don't know. What do you think about this?
[00:15:41] Speaker B: I think that if this was like any other player besides dry Seidel, I think that this is a suspension. I think that this was, he left his feet and it was a hit up high and Barkov left, too. Um, I think that should be a suspension. I don't even. Was it even a penalty? I don't even think it was.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: Well, they called him for roughly, which was kind of question because I know his elbow caught his jaw.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: It was, yeah, it was definitely an elbowing, which I don't know why they called it for roughing. Pardon me, cut that out. But, yeah, it was definitely a penalty.
But, yeah, man, I mean, I feel like if that's any other player, they're probably going to get at least a game suspension, dry settling, get anything. I think the NHL wants dry settle, continue to continue playing.
I think also if they suspended him, I think Edmonton fans and a lot of people would lose their shit just because what high caliber of a player he is. But I think especially in game two, I think Edmond Edmonton was getting frustrated. I mean, they've been throughout all these other series and high scoring and clicking, but they weren't clicking and they were. I feel like they tried to play Florida's style of game and they got their asses kicked. I mean, you saw full sticking his knee out, trying to injure players. Same with drystyle, too. I feel like both of those players were trying to intentionally do that to knock Barkov out of the game, which I'm not totally sure who that knee was on.
[00:17:19] Speaker A: Kind of forgot Lucy Ryden.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Who's also a really good player as well. So I just feel like they were trying to play that style of game that Florida plays. The Oilers can't, and especially those two players, fogel and dry style. Especially dry style. I mean, they're not any sort of gritty players, so I think those were dirty plays, and I think it was a mix of frustration, but also just trying to play that, that style of getting other players injured to win. So, yeah, kind of makes me upset.
Like I said, I think that this is a lot of other players. They're going to get a suspension, but dry style's superstar Edmonton status and the NHL loves to see them in the finals.
He's not going to get a suspension for that, but, yeah. Bummer, though, coming from Flames fan. What's your take on this, though, do you think?
[00:18:08] Speaker A: I think, like, try. I mean, I think it's a dirty hit regardless he's going up high. I just think it's tough to give a suspension for that.
I don't know. It's just like it's the Stanley cup playoffs, it's the Stanley cup finals, and it's like, you know, I don't. It wasn't, if anything, Jacob Truba, that elbow on, was it Evan Rodriguez? I think that elbow should have been a suspension, if anything, but I don't think that if that elbow was not a suspension, I don't think this is going to cause anything. I think it looks really bad because Barkov is hurt.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Who, by the way, has had a great, great series, and I think I've seen some stuff about people saying that the NHL is just glazing Barkov, and I don't know. I don't think that maybe they are, but it's probably because he doesn't get enough credit. I feel like he's always kind of been in a shadow for so long and, you know, not been able to show off what he's capable of, and I think he's really showing it this, this playoff series, and especially against someone like McDavid. And he's a great, great defensive center and also on the other front, too. Like, he's a great offensive center as well. But I think he's a complete player, and I think he is huge, huge for the Florida Panthers. So if he misses game three, it might be tough. And I think it's, it's hard for the fan bases of the Panthers to be, like, off, you know, he does this dirty hit to injure Barkov. Why isn't dry Sidell missing a game, too? So, yeah, you know, I hope either way, I hope Barkov isn't seriously injured, but I don't know.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: I mean, I just feel like the hit, he left his feet.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Going directly into his face. I just feel like that's intent, to injure one of their best players right to the face. And he left, too. I feel like maybe if he didn't leave, it wouldn't be really talked about as much. Yeah, but the fact that he did injure him, I just feel like that's, that's tough, and it's, you're, you made a good point, though. It's a Stanley cup final. I mean, is the NHL Department of safety going to pull that plug and give Tristytle, you know, a game suspension or whatever, which would severely hurt the Oilers? I mean, if dry style is out, my gosh, that, that may really screw the Oilers offense over, but not only that, I just feel like, I mean, tri saddle is going to have a target on his back for at least the rest of the series. I mean, that was a very dirty hit. That was one of the best players on Florida, one of the most, I mean, the most long standing leaders on that team as well.
I think a lot of players look up to Barkov on that team. So I feel like for him to get injured, hopefully, he's not going to be injured for this game three because of a kind of cheap shot that dry Seidel took. And that was towards the end of the game, correct?
[00:21:09] Speaker A: Yeah, that was so. I mean, I think.
Yeah, I think it's frustration.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: So, I don't know. But I think as far as everything, I mean, let's kind of look at some of the keys that we had said in the beginning of the series.
Um, I think one of them being Kaczuk getting in the heads of the Oilers, and I think he's. He's done a good job of that. I shard took a penalty against him because Kacchuk was pissing him off for whatever reason. Probably talking Kacchuk then made Kachuk made fun of Bouchard's cross eye, which is, I shouldn't be laughing about, but it's stuff like that where it's like, this guy on Thursday is going to get so much booze in Edmonton, I. Oh, my God.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: I can't wait. Yeah, dude. And game three is going to be insane. Game three is going to be insane because one dry side is going to have a target on his back. Matthew Chuck stepping back into Edmonton, where he's enemy number one. It's a must win game for the Oilers. Like, in the Oilers are going into this game scoring only one goal. One freaking goal, and it was Matthias.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Echo off of two of two of.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Their best players are freaking pointless.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:25] Speaker B: Right now, McDavid and Bouchard only have one point, so are they going to be able to rebound?
[00:22:30] Speaker A: Wait, Boucher is a point, I want to say, because I know well that at home goal, I want to say, unless they changed it afterwards, when I. When it happened, I saw that it was McDavid assisted on Ekholm, but there could have been, like, a change in the stat if they missed it or something. But regardless. Anyways, um, yeah, no, you make a good point. I think this Florida team is just shutting these guys down, which is another key to success for us, which we said, you know, it may be a little bland take of us to say to, you know, we got some shit for it to say that, oh, you gotta shut them down. But it's true, though. Like, I mean, for Florida here, I'll rebut that because for Florida, like, it's not like Matthew Kachuk or Sam Reinhart, any of those guys are having like a crazy, you know, points, anything like that. But Florida has depth. Evan Rodriguez has three goals.
A lot of their scoring has come from those deeper players. And for Edmonton, I guess you could say their death scored and Matthias Echolm. But it's crucial for this specific Edmonton team anywhere else. Like that's the norm, is to shut down the top guys. But this team specifically with Edmonton, those four are the points. That's where their goals come from. I'm, I'm sorry. And the power play. And guess what? They haven't done shit on the power play.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, without those players, they're nothing. And I feel like, yeah, we're, we got some shit for that saying, oh, their best players need to perform. No shit. I mean, but it's true. I mean, this is, I don't think anyone saw it coming that they weren't going to be scoring at all, but the fact that they're not, I mean, that's, you take away one of those keys like he's, like we said and they're screwed. I mean, I don't think Stuart Skinner has necessarily like, had the worst first two games.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: No.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: I mean, I don't think he's been playing like he did against Dallas whatsoever.
[00:24:32] Speaker A: No.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: But I mean, when, when dry, sudden have zero points, that's going to hurt. When McDavid doesn't even goal.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: And I mean, or Bouchard.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: I mean, well, even having 1.1 point.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah. So, I mean, I feel like it's gonna be interesting to see what happens for this game. Three. I know Edmonton is going to be rocking. They're going to be booming Kachuk. It's going to be wild. I mean, I think they just got to scrap. The, the first two games come out with a different scrap strategy. They kind of find some way to gun under freaking Florida skin. I mean, I feel like they need to utilize like, Evander Cain.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: And I mean, not only that, I feel like there's definitely some players on their team, like Nugent, Hopkins, that needs to step up, too. I mean, some of their death players outside of those top four, if they're not going to score, then some other people need to carry that torch for them or else they're screwed.
But I mean, yeah, I just feel like they are not playing to the level. Florida has these first two games, and they need to figure that out. They need to change their strategy up, and I just don't know if they're coaching. No block has that in him. I mean, he has no experience in the Stanley cup final, I feel like. And he's eating his words after everybody said, yeah, buffalo Bills. So, I mean, they. They gotta at least pull one of these games out, or this is. This is gonna look really ugly for Edmonton. I mean, game three, I feel like, might be a must win for them.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it definitely is a must win. I mean, even if they take game four, I think they need to win both these games. I think if they go game five down three one, I think they're screwed. They need to take advantage of having home ice and tie the series up, because if it's three two or, sorry, if it's tied, go back to Florida, then it's three two. You go back to Edmonton, you have another chance, and then game seven is game seven. But there's something. What did I want to say? Um, I lost it. Oh. So with the Florida Panthers and kind of how we said that they, you know, you were saying that the Edmonton Oilers need to get under the Panthers skin.
I think that is a very tough thing to do, and I just don't know if that's right. Plan for attack. Just because, like, you're never kind of.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: Trying to do that game.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: They were. Yeah, they're just not better. Like, you can't get under. I just don't think you can get under their skin. I think one thing is to have a plan against this four, check something different. I don't think anyone's been able to figure it out, so if they can figure it out, good for them. If they can't, I think they're toast. Um, but the one thing with Florida, what they love to do, and I think it adds to their, you know, chippy style of play or their bonehead plays and stuff like that, is frustration. They piss off these good players by shutting them down.
That's upsetting number one, and then number two is they get in your face and they remind you that you fucking suck. And from there, it just keeps getting under your skin. Like, you got to be able to back up your play, and if Florida is having their way with Edmonton, it's not going to work. You got to be up, and once you get that lead to just, you just shut them down. But I don't know. I don't know if the Oilers can do it, but I think. I think the Oilers will take one game at home, and I think it'll be done game five. But I'm not a fortune teller, so I don't know. But do you have anything else on this?
[00:28:08] Speaker B: I honestly don't even, I know from the, my background, I don't even want to make a prediction.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: I mean, I don't even, I don't, I don't want to jinx anything that's fingers crossed.
It goes the way if Flames fans want it.
Still going to be bittersweet. Scene Kachuk and Bennett raised cup, but they definitely deserve it. And, yeah, man, I hope that happens, but we'll see. I mean, these two games in Edmonton, it's crunch time for them big. Yeah, they screw up one of these games, I think it might be over for them. So.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we also saw with round one, Dallas versus Vegas.
Dallas or Vegas was up 20 in that Dallas series. Yeah, the first two games they were away, and then the next two games, Dallas comes back and ties the series up. Whole new series goes to game seven. Dallas win. So this series is not over at all.
But Edmonton needs to make a change, obviously.
[00:29:08] Speaker B: And, yeah, I mean, that series, that series and this series are different. They are. I mean, for Edmonton, the highest scoring team in this playoffs by a mile, to only have one goal, like, holy shit, they need to figure something out. And I don't know if that's getting under the skin of Kaczak and the, the Panthers or Bobrovsky or figure out their four check. I mean, they need to figure something out, and they need to at least take one of these games. Yeah, because that would be a catastrophic.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Failure if they got swept in the Seal cup final. Yeah. Plus, like, the hype. We've hyped up this Stanley cup final a lot, and I think if it ends in a sweep, I mean, I think, first of all, even if it is a sweep, I think this series is off to a great start. And maybe because I'm biased and I love the Panthers have money on them, so maybe I'm biased, but I think it's been a good series overall, and I'm excited for the rest of it, but this series is nowhere from over because it's the Stanley cup final and we have no idea what could happen. Games three and game four, because if Barkov's out, who knows? That could, that could swing everything because he's a, he's a big key to their, their team. But anything else before we move on?
[00:30:20] Speaker B: No, man. Go Panthers.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Go Panthers. Um, all right. So first, actually, before we get into the mock draft, I don't know if you guys saw this listening, but cap friendly, which is a website where you can pretty much look at all the contracts every team has. It's a very, like, data analysis. Very like, deep and heavy. I don't know how to describe it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: It's a great. It's a great platform to do deep dives and analytically into these teams players.
Yeah. See how trades would play out. I know there's a lot more. I've only really played around with the armchair GM as a Flames fans saying, oh my gosh, this is gonna happen. Back when we had Chuck and Gudreau and none of it ever happened. But yeah, I mean, it was an awesome website and got. Got bought out by that. The Capitals. It's gonna go dark, but I will say I've seen this all over the place. That Capgeek was before Cat friendly, it got bought out, then cat friendly became a thing. So there's gonna be another one that goes public.
[00:31:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:29] Speaker B: I don't know what it's gonna be called. Someone's going to do it, though.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: And they're going to come to the. To the rescue.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: I think it'll take time, but smart move by the capital is honestly genius because other teams use this website. This is not just for the common folk like us, like big, like GM's. Use this to leverage trades against people and be like, I see that you have this and that issue.
So with, and I'm sure Cap friendly has some sort of patent on whatever stuff that they do and their data stuff, so someone's going to need to figure something out. I think it'll take some time, but yeah, the Capitals now have an advantage against every single team in the league, and every team in the league is going to need to figure something out on how they can recreate this, but I don't think it's going to be as good as cap friendly was. So we'll see how it shakes out. I mean, it's nothing. I don't think that's going to be super advantageous, advantageous for the Capitals, but who knows? We could see them, maybe they'll turn their franchise around. I don't know. But either way, it's a smart move to buy that out. And honestly, kind of an interesting thing. I don't think we've ever really seen a team go out and buy a website like that to use, at least not when as I've been, um, like, alive. So, yeah. Anyways, um, with that, let's get into this mock draft. So NHL draft June 28, I think, or the 27th. Friday and Saturday. Round one is Friday. We'll be there. Boots on the ground, in the sphere at the game. Getting.com, hopefully meeting some players, hopefully getting, you know, maybe get an interview here, there we'll see. But we're going to do a mock draft for the first ten picks, who we think.
And again, this is purely from a fan standpoint. This is not a deep dive, analytical mock draft.
This is just what I want to see and what galley wants to see so very well could shake up and change out. Don't come at us because we are not deep dive analysts that know everything about all these players. We're not scouts. We haven't been watching these guys all year. Some of them we have, some of them we haven't. Yeah, we've been with that.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: We've been doing a little bit of research, though.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: So we do. Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: Okay. We'll see.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: We got some stuff. But also don't take it as the holy grail of all mock drafts. This is just what we think. Yeah.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: Don't come out.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah. How should we do this? Should we go? Let's go back and forth between each. So first overall pick for my San Jose Sharks.
The Sharks. I think this is a no brainer here. The shark select, Macklin Celebrini. I think we all could have seen this coming. Obviously, he's undoubtedly number one.
For those of you that don't know about Macklin Celebrini or maybe you haven't heard us talk about or anyone.
17 years old, he was playing for Boston University. He won the Hobie Baker award, which is the most outstanding player in college sports or, sorry, college hockey in NCAA.
I think for the Sharks, this pick is going to be huge. I think it sets them up down the middle in the future for Will Smith, another great center that they have on their team.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: And adding Macklin, I think, is going to be huge for them for the long term success.
Do you have anything else written down for Macklin?
[00:35:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think he's definitely the bona fide number one pick. He's got. He's got such good hockey iq. I mean, just watching him play as a 17 year old playing in NCAA, it's like, damn, this guy is legit. I mean, I'm really excited to see what he does in the NHL. His skills, his hands, his shot is elite.
I mean, for him to put up, you know, 32 goals, 32 assists. He's an all around player.
I think he's very, very similar to, like, a player like TJ Thompson is now. I don't think it's going to take. He's going to take that exact same development route. But I do think that, like, he reminds me of Tage Thompson. Just his, like, build. And I feel like Tage Thompson's an incredible player.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: I don't know Tage Thompson. Six foot six, is he? Yeah, Tej is huge. He's like Mario Le Meux.
[00:35:56] Speaker B: I thought he was like six foot two.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: Yeah, no, Tasia is massive. Yes. He's a huge guy. He's like. He's damn near Mario Lemieux. When I saw you had that written down, his comparison, I thought that you just meant, like, his, like, he may not have direct success, but that's all right.
[00:36:14] Speaker B: Well, besides. Okay, besides, um, yeah, besides his height, I do think their builds are similar. They're both kind of playstyle lanky bastards and yeah, their playstyle is similar. I feel like that's. That's my comparison, at least with Macklin Celebrini, but yeah, that definitely his height is pretty big. Yeah. But I do feel like Taj Thompson's a pretty, pretty skilled player and I feel like Macklin Celebrini is probably going to blow that through the roof of the player tage Thompson is.
But, I mean, I don't know, does he ring a bell of any players that are in the NHL right now? I've seen a lot of comparisons of Jonathan Taves, but I think he's going to be better than that offensively.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so, too. I don't. I don't know quite how he handles on the opposite side of the ice, on the defensive side.
I see the comparison there, though, with Jonathan Taves.
I mean, it's hard to say that he's going to blow through the ceiling of Jonathan tapes because Jonathan Taves was an amazing hockey player.
Um, I think he's a little bit more offensive, though, than taves was. I think he's got a better shot. Um, and, you know, maybe.
I mean, it's really tough to say. No, I'm not going to say. I was going to say Sidney Crosby. I just am getting hopeful as a Sharks fan that he's going to be like that. But, um, I'd be happy with a similar Jonathan taves. But you know what? I'm happy with a Macklin Celebrini. He's gonna set his own, his own tone of who he is as a player. So, yeah, I feel like he's like.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: Tage Thompson or Jack Hughes type beat Jack. I feel like. Yeah, I feel like both of those players kind of have a similar playing style.
[00:37:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: So, I mean, besides the height.
Yeah.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: Not his body type, but yeah.
[00:38:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I think those are some. At least play style wise. They. That's. That's what he's going to be like. But, I mean, I don't necessarily think he's too much of like, a superstar like Bedard, but I do think celebrating it's going to be kind of what's he's. Is his skills going to, like, translate into the NHL? Is like, my biggest question, like, is he going to go to the NHL this next year if he doesn't? I mean, I don't really see another year in college helping him too much more. But also, it might because the Sharks might not be the best situation for him right now, but I just feel like getting those NHL reps as a. As a number one pick, I think that's important. And I hope he goes to the NHL next year just for the hopes of NHL fans watching, for Sharks fans and just. Just my curiosity to see, is this guy legit?
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Yeah, he had mentioned some stuff about possibly going back. I think he was taken a little out of context, just in terms of the whole interview that he had at the combine.
Basically what he said was if he did go back to college for another year, I think he was saying that it would help him. It would benefit him to play at that level.
But I don't think he was saying for sure that he's gonna go back. I think it's still up in the air.
But I guess, you know what? We'll find out right after draft day or a couple days after drafting if he is. He's still 17. I don't know exactly his age. Let me look that up. I know that kind of throws up. Doesn't matter anyways. All right, let's move on to number two.
Who do you have going number two to the Chicago Blackhawks?
[00:39:41] Speaker B: I've Ivan Demidov. He's right winger for Ska St. Petersburg in the MHL. Pat played in the MHL this past season.
Holy shit. This guy is incredible. Just watching his highlight reel. Um, I mean, he's won such a gifted goal scorer. Um, for him to be putting up 60 points and only 30, 30 games played, I mean, he's a step above all those players in Russia, which I feel like when there is that sort of player coming out of Russia, it's something really special. I mean, to be scoring 23 goals, 37 assists, I feel like that's something that's going to really go well with the Blackhawks depth right now. Um, especially right next to bedard. I feel like this is kind of like a one two punch that taves and Kane had. And I mean, bedard and demidov, I could just. I just see it coming and I just feel like he slots in with the Blackhawks perfectly.
I see him coming to the NHL. I don't know about this next year, but at least the year after, especially if he's drafted by the Hawks. But I think his ceilings all the way up to Nikita Kucharov. I mean, I think he looks like that sort of player that has that hockey iq and that skill. That's one going to be. That could potentially be one of the best players in the league. I mean, for him to be putting up those certain points, I don't think that's happened in a long time in the NHL, which is the russian junior league. But who do you have for for the second? I know I went on a rant right there.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: I also dumbed up. I think he's going to go number two.
I think there's been some talks that the Blackhawks might take a defenseman.
I think it could help them. I mean, I do think they have. They have Lucas Ricol. I think his name is just in a bad. I think he's a defense, but I don't know. Don't come with me for that. But I think Devada is going to be a good, like you said, one two punch for Connor. I think that's desperately what the Blackhawks need. They need to get him some help. I also think and saw a lot that he was kind of and has been in the shadows of Matthew Mitchikov after last year. He was obviously the talk of the town around draft time. Obviously he slipped down to seven. And I don't think it's because of his play. I think it was a lot of other reasons that we've talked about before.
But in 2023, Demidov actually also had 41 games played in 63 points. So he still put up a great first year with the MHL and then. Or. Yeah, and then 2024, like you said, 30 games played, 60 points. So obviously did better this last year. But it's a second year. So, yeah, I think it's a good, solid pick for the Blackhawks.
But again, I can feel like a.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: Lot of people are saying, yeah, I feel like a lot of people are saying that Demidov is going to fall. Um, and I think it's kind of between Demidov and left Chenov.
[00:42:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:46] Speaker B: Um, I mean, two, one's a Russian, one's a Belarusian. So belarusian, whatever, however you say it.
But yeah, man, I mean, I think it's between those two players. I just feel like the Hawks are going to benefit from a right winger more in this situation. Yeah, but yeah, I think he's going to be a sick player in the NHL, no doubt, but yeah. Who do you have for your, your third pick for, for Anaheim?
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Third pick? I have him. Artyom Levshanov. He played it in Michigan state actually this last year.
I think he is a special defenseman and I, you know, was kind of like, it's tough. I think Macklin Celebrini is going to be the best out of this draft class. And again, it's with my shark skull goes on, but I wouldn't have been upset if we were to get someone like him. Um, this is a quote from elite prospects, which is a, if you don't know what that is, it's a huge database for prospects and it's in the name. Um, but their quote with him was he's able to keep up with the play going forward, backwards, sideways, you name it. He's got full mobility to spare, which, if you're a defender, like, I don't know, I'm seeing some hale macar almost like stuff. I think it's, he's a little bit different than him. I don't think it's exactly the same, but I think he's going to be the star defenseman out of this, this draft. Again, middle of the road take probably there. I think it's pretty obvious. But who do you have for three if you have the same.
[00:44:15] Speaker B: Yeah, same here I got Levshanov.
I just feel like he's an excellent puck moving defenseman. I think Anaheim could for sure benefit off of that, especially after losing Drysdale and that goatee trade this past year. But he really reminds me of like a player like Drew Dowdy. I mean, I feel like he's a very solid defensive player who does have that flash of at least, you know, moving that puck around. I mean, I don't think he's too flashy. Like, you know, like a kale makar.
[00:44:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:46] Speaker B: Like a Quinn Hughes or anything. But I do feel like he's going to be a very solid defenseman for his whole NHL career.
And I think if he's available at three, you gotta pick him like, I don't think any of these other players, I would be shocked if Anaheim doesn't pick Levshanov. I mean, I feel like Levshanov, Demidov and Celebrini. I mean, I feel like those three players, they gotta pick within three or if Demidov drops, I think at least Levshanov and Celebrini are going to be picked within the top. Yeah, but if Demidov drops, like some people are saying, he might drop the, who knows, like, over five picks, that's a steal. I mean, I just feel like there's a lot of people that are kind of being like, this guy's like a Mitch cop situation. But I mean, look at Mitch Cop now. I mean, we talked about this a few episodes ago. I mean, he looks like one of the best steals of that last draft. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens with these, these pick two and three and which way the Hawks and Ducks want to go. But I think Lev shouldn't offer for number three. But who do you got for Columbus at number four?
[00:45:53] Speaker A: I have.
I think this is where we're going to differ. I have z by, um, University of Denver. I think Columbus needs a young defenseman. I think they have some good pieces up front. They have what's his name? Kent Johnson. Great player. They have Adam Fantilly, obviously, and they have their good core of goodrow and Patrick line.
So I think, I think adding a young defenseman who may take some time, I think he's going to have probably another year at Denver from what I've been seeing.
But Columbus has a deep, deep prospect pool.
You know, they've been rebuilding for a while now.
And if anything, I think for a case for a lot of these teams, which I'll bring up is, you know, even if they don't take this guy for the long haul, just retooling him and moving him around, maybe getting other pieces could be beneficial. And it's like, for some of these teams, it's like, I don't know that they can wait that long to have a player, but I'll get to that when there's teams that are more like that. But who do you have a number for?
[00:47:04] Speaker B: So I went a little bit different. I went to Antonio Anton Siliev, defenseman from, I'm gonna butcher this name, Nizhny Novograd. Novograd in the KHL.
He's six foot seven as a freaking 17 year old. He's not even 18 yet.
He still has a lot to develop on his offensive side, but he's a freaking beast defensively. I mean, as a 17 year old, he led the team in block shots and hits, and this is playing against, you know, ex NHL players. Some of the best players in Europe, some of the best players in Russia that are adults in their twenties and thirties, and to be leading his team in hits and shots blocked, I mean, damn, it's just impressive as a 17 year old.
Kind of reminds me of someone that lit up the KHL as a 19 year old Mitch cop. But I will say. I know I've been saying Mitch gov a lot, but I will say Siljev is. Has eleven points in the cage all this year. That's the most points by an under 18 player since Teresenko, which he did play at 63 games this year. So, I mean, give it to him, but I mean, 17 year old doing that, that's pretty impressive to be doing that in the KHL. I just feel like his ceiling is. Is very high.
I think that he really reminds me of, like a Victor Hedman type player. I don't think he could nest. He's necessarily going to step into the league right away. I know he's. There's some worries of him staying in Russia for a long time, but, I mean, if the situation is right in Columbus and they have a spot for him, I mean, why don't you want to do that if you're so.
I feel like this is a kind of a risk that Columbus would take, but I feel like Columbus is kind of in a spot where they might need to start doing that because.
[00:48:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good point.
[00:49:00] Speaker B: I feel like this at a. Out of some of these players. I feel like Silia could be NHL ready whenever he is ready to come, you know, to North America. So that's. That's who I have for. For number four, at least. Um, yeah, I mean, not too much more to say on that. Who do you got for number five?
[00:49:22] Speaker A: Number five. So this one, I think between these two teams, five and six, you could kind of interchange them for me. I'm not super confident on either of these picks. I think these two picks, though, can be interchanged for Montreal. First off, I think they need to get the fuck out of the lottery. They have a great team. Great, like young core of players, not a great team yet, but they need to stop picking in the lottery. And I don't. I. I think they need to go with one of these two guys. And I want to say Caden Lindstrom is someone I'm going to stick with six foot, 3218. He's a big, big forward. Not super big, but he's a big forward. They can use his size with the players that they have.
Montreal has Lane Hudson coming next year, great defender. So I don't think that they necessarily need my number six pick, which is Anton Siliev.
So that's why I'm going to stick with Caden Lindstrom and I think that his size is going to be helpful to them. But who's your number five for Montreal?
[00:50:26] Speaker B: So I'm thinking Ziv Booyum is going to drop to number five.
I think Columbus is going to take, um, just because his frame and his ceiling is so high. I do think Montreal, they do need defensive prospects. I feel like they're really strong in the forwards right now, but I mean, looking at their defense, I mean, they got Michael Madison, Justin Barron, Kaden Kuehl, Davis Avard. I know they have Lane Hudson, which he's a very great bonafide prospect that's going to step in. But I think putting boo yum in there, especially if he's going to stay another year, and at DU, I think just let him give him another year. He's going to be really a great prospect, a great player for the Canadians. He kind of reminds me of a player like Rasmus Anderson.
He's just like an all around good player on defense, and I feel like he can add both offense, but I feel like he's very, very good just on the defensive side of things. And he was one of the best players who is a freshman in NCAA this year. So I feel like Bouillon. It's also kind of interchangeable between four and five. For me. I feel like it could go Booem or Silja depending on what Columbus and Montreal want to take, but both different players. I think booyum is a little bit more of a less risky defenseman prospect where Siljav is high reward, but a little bit of high risk, in my opinion. Yeah, but I mean, that's. That's my pick for number five. I know we're probably going to. We're differing on, on six. Yeah, you said so.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I have celia. And so my reason for that for Utah is just, I think Utah is done with this rebuild. Former Coyotes, I mean, I don't think they're done yet. I think what they can do, though, is retool this guy, get him somewhere that maybe can afford to wait a little bit and get a player that's more ready to play in the NHL to make an impact Coyotes have just been middle of the road for the last two, three years picking. I mean, they jumped, not jumped up, but they finished six. So they actually dropped down a lot this year. But I think this Utah team needs to make an impact now. And I think even just moving this player around, not necessarily having to wait for him to come back because silly Eval does have a contract through 2026 with Russia. I don't remember if he said that or not, but I just don't know that Utah can wait that long. So I feel like they're going to need to move him around and yeah, that's one of the teams that I think is going to need to move move their pick around to retool. But who do you have for Utah?
[00:53:17] Speaker B: So I have a Zane Perek.
Perek. I don't know. I feel like I'm butchering. There's a lot of hard names in this draft, but he is a defenseman out of the Saginaw spirit.
He's got nine. He had 96 points in 66 games in the OHL, which is pretty damn impressive. He's a high scoring defenseman. I feel like that's what Utah, the former Arizona franchise, needs.
They need that sort of bolstering high scoring defenseman. He really reminds of Eric Carlson. I think Zayn Perek could be the best defenseman in this draft. I think he's going to fall past five, but I do think that out of lefthand Celia Booyum Perek, which sorry for anyone listening, these are butchering, these names come out of my head. But yeah, I do think that he has this past draft year he's really shown how good he is. He reminds me of somewhat of Eric Carlson or like even like an Adam Fox. He's going to be freaking stellar offensively in this league and I can see him taking maybe a year to get comfortable in the NHL. But I think that if he's available at number six, you got to get them. I feel like Utah. I almost said Arizona. I feel like Utah's depth is very good on the forward side of things, but it's lacking a little bit on the defense. So I feel like got to go with Perek here, but who do you got for Ottawa at number seven?
[00:54:50] Speaker A: So Ottawa. I have Perek.
Yeah, I think, I mean, he just won the Memorial cup with Saginaw and he was a huge part of that.
And again, I think Utah is another one of these teams where it's like they were disappointing last year. I think we thought they were going to at least try to sneak into the playoffs, and they were just like the Titanic at the bottom of the Atlantic. And, you know, I don't know. I think Ottawa is like such a. I don't want to say shit show, but it's like, what do you do? Like, they had. They were set up to be a great team this year, and it just all fell apart. And, you know, if he follows in, if Kachuk falls in his brother's footsteps, getting out of Canada, I think that's gonna be a huge blow to Ottawa. So they need to prove that they're gonna do something about it. And I think they could keep park and wait. But again, this is a, this is a get out of the lottery team right now. They need to be pushing for that wild card spot and, you know, hopefully a playoff spot. But realistically, I think if they're pushing for a wild card spot, again, utilize this pick, maybe move it around, retool, get some other people or another player, someone to make an impact on this team, because I don't think Zane's going to do it in the next couple of years. He's going to take some time, and I don't know if the Senators have much time before their core of young players get frustrated and want to leave.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Yeah, no kidding. And I feel like the sends top six.
Sorry, I didn't mean. Same. I pick.
[00:56:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:56:30] Speaker B: But yeah, my picks, Caden Lindstrom, I know we just interchanged picks right there for Utah and Ottawa, but yeah, I just feel like Katie and Lindstrom, the sends are. You're so right on that. They are kind of in a situation right now where they need to figure something out, like, why are they still in this draft lottery situation, especially with some very skilled players, Tim Stutzel and Brady Kachuk, you know, Shane Pinto. I just feel like their top six isn't strong enough. So, like Kaden Lindstrom, I think would be a big addition. I think he has a little bit of injury concerns. So I feel like that's why Caden Lindstrom is going to drop a little farther down in this draft.
But I mean, he had 27 goals this year. I know he's a very good goal scoring ability out of all these draft prospects. I do think he has a good ceiling for growth. I just think it's going to take a little bit for him to get there.
But I could also see Ottawa possibly trading this pick just because the situation that they're in. We'll see if that happens. I'm also really worried, like, around Ottawa area and Seattle area. This is where TJ getting left, going to get picked up. Yeah, fingers crossed that doesn't happen. I'm pissed I even said that. Um, but I mean, I think Kaden Lindstrom is a solid player and he does have a little bit of concern, at least, you know, with his injuries this past year. But I feel like doing, if Ottawa did pick him and he does fall at the 7th spot, you got to pick him up just because six foot, 3218 pounds. I mean, I feel like this guy's definitely would be a solid pick for Ottawa.
[00:58:07] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I agree. I think Ottawa is going to be a team to look at for this draft and see what they do next. Team Seattle. This is another team where, you know, I think Seattle was very disappointing. I don't even know if disappointing is the right word. I mean, their team is just Blech. I look at and it's like they're, they're a newer team, you know, you got to give them some credit. They're not like Vegas was where Vegas was a powerhouse. Right out the gate. They traded all these picks for, you know, big players that made an impact.
I don't know what Seattle is going to do. Maybe they see that and they're like, you know what? Vegas got a cup in three years. We want that. So we need to move this pick around or this drought, who knows? But I think as a time being, I think Seattle is going to take Cole Eiserman winger out of the US NDTP. That's where Will Smith came from. Jack Hughes came from.
Who else? Cole Caulfield. A lot of great players out of this program.
And he had 57 games played in 89 points, which is pretty good. But a lot of these like higher prospects or higher. I think he had a disappointing season. I know that he. He was going to be two. I felt like two or three before the season started. And I think he kind of had a. Maybe a disappointing season at the NDTP or just all these other players outshined him, but he's american born. I think he's going to be playing at Bu next year after the draft. I don't think he's ready to make an impact right now, but yeah, I think Cole Eisenman is for Seattle. So who do you got?
[00:59:45] Speaker B: Yeah, same here. I mean, I did have originally I had like Sam Dickinson or Berkeley cabin, but yeah, I mean, I think that Iserman is going to be a good pick for Seattle here. I think he has a very high ceiling. Yeah, yeah, I think he has a very high ceiling, which I do know he kind of had a disappointing draft year. I feel like he was. He was up there in the number one conversation for a couple of years back, even.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:18] Speaker B: But I think he's going to be a good addition for Seattle. I don't. I think they could still use some more bonafide centers. I mean, after Ben. Yes.
Who's probably going to be their, their first liner center for. For a while. Um, but yeah, I feel like he's going to need some time to get comfortable in his playing style and figure out who he is, necessarily. And I feel like Seattle has that time to give him.
But not only that, I just feel like we'll see what he does in the NCAA. I mean, I feel like he could be a sleeper for, you know, being one of the best freshmen. Next year, we'll see if he has like, a year like Macklin Salgreni. I mean, if he does have some crazy shit like that and goes off, then, damn, I mean, they have a steal right here. So I feel like this guy's ceiling is very high, but I also feel like it's a little bit risky because he did have kind of a shitty draft year. So we'll see. I think this is kind of a boomer bust situation here. I feel like there's not really, like, a solid he's going to make the NHL here. I feel like it's a. It's a. It's a high risk, high reward situation right here.
[01:01:27] Speaker A: No, for sure. I agree. I will see with Cole Eisenman. I think, like you said, his draft here was just disappointing. So he's going to be, like you said, great. Great. Uh, what's it called? Analogy or. Yeah, I don't know.
All right, number nine, I'm gonna let you do it because I know you're excited.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: Please, Calgary, and please, NHL and hockey gods, please let TJ Ginla drop to number nine. He's the son of Jerome Ginla, Flames legend, retired in the rafters, number twelve. Played 16 freaking seasons with the Flames. Brought him to a Stanley cup final, which they should have won. It was in. It was in. In 2004. Okay, but please, for the love of God, make this happen. This would be so freaking cool to see a Ginla, a new agenla be playing for the Flames. He had a stellar draft year, and he had a stellar draft combine. And I've seen some draft mock drafts where he's going in the top five. He's going to go right before the Flames pick him. So, like, fingers crossed, I just like, I look at some of these players in front of him and I'm like, a ginla's better than them. Like, yeah, I mean, Eiserman. Like, a ginla. I think a ginla is, like, better than him, which freaks me out. I mean, if you're Seattle and you have Eiserman or Ginla or Berkeley Cotton, why don't you pick a gimla, you know?
[01:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:02:53] Speaker B: I mean, it's in the. His NHL is in his blood, but, yeah, I mean, I just feel like the biggest player he's compared to is. Is freaking Jerome McGinley. I mean, he has 47 goals in his draft year, which is insane. Wow. I mean, that's. That's pretty impressive.
[01:03:10] Speaker A: Probably like 40 something, right?
57.
[01:03:16] Speaker B: He played 64, 64 games.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: 47.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: 84. Yeah, 84 points.
[01:03:22] Speaker A: Damn.
[01:03:23] Speaker B: Um, was an absolute solid player, um, this year, and he had a really strong draft combine. Um, I don't necessarily think he's going to be on the Flames roster next year, but I think he could be within two or three years in the NHL.
I just feel like he has that drive. He's got it in his blood.
Jerome McGinley is a freaking special assistant to the Calgary Flames GM. Like, one. If he's available, do not pass on him. Calgary, that will. I'm going to be freaking out in the stands, in the sphere if that happens.
I don't think Craig Conroy is going to pass on him. Jerome McGinley, his fucking dad, is going to be in the draft room.
[01:04:03] Speaker A: Like, true.
[01:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, come on, just make this happen. If there's a team that is drafting in front of the flames, like, that's going to pick them, like, trade that pick for gimlet, like, please just make it get. I mean, and what number is he going to wear? I don't think he's going to wear number twelve. I mean, obviously retired. Yeah, it's retired, but 21?
Yeah, I think 21 would be pretty sick.
[01:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that would be cool. Yeah, I got tgam there. I. I'm nervous for it. Like, we're going to be flushing fists there at the drafts, like, hoping he doesn't, because I. I think it'd be awesome. I know we're Pacific rivals, and I don't wish too much success on the Calgary flames, but for the sake of being one of my good friends, I do want teacher Gilla to go the Calgary flames. I think it'd be just a cool story in general, too. Like, in all seriousness, as a fan of the game, TJ, again, love being a flame. Just makes sense. TJ, again, love being a Seattle kraken. Doesn't make sense. Him being a senator doesn't make sense. Him being a Utah, whatever the fuck does, doesn't make sense. So I think, like you said, if Calgary passes on him, I think someone in that draft room smoking crack, but I think. I don't know. He had a great combine, but we'll see. I mean, maybe Calgary will draft up or trade up.
Get rid of. I don't know who you get rid of. Huberdo.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: Someone that Huberto is not. No team is going to take Huberto's.
[01:05:33] Speaker A: Contract, that 7th overall pick. Yeah, good point. Yeah. All right, well, Calgary, we're hoping for hockey gods put it in our favor that TJ Ganlo gets drafted or galley is going to have a sad rest of the trip in Vegas. So please, for the sake of us, but number ten, who you got for the New Jersey Devils?
[01:05:54] Speaker B: So I have Sam Dickinson. I know some mock drafts that I've seen have seen Sam Dickinson possibly sliding five or six, but just looking at New Jersey, I feel like they need a defenseman a little bit more than a forward. I think their forward depth is very good, but I feel like if they. I think Dickinson is a player that could step in the NHL within the next three years, I don't think he's going to need a lot of time. I know he had a really solid year in the OHL with London making that long run to the. To the Memorial Cup. I just feel like he would fit in there. I mean, this pick, I'm kind of like, I don't, I don't know. I mean, who knows what New Jersey is going to do? But I feel like they're going to pick a defenseman here. I don't necessarily see them picking can be Catton. I feel like he's probably the next best available player, but I just don't see them picking a center. I think their center depth is really solid. I think they're, they're forward depth is probably one of the best in the league. But I do think that if they do pick a player, as in Sam Dickinson, who I think is a solid pick, I think he's going to be in the NHL.
Unknown on how long it's going to take. I don't think it's going to be at media impact.
I do think that this is going to be a good pickup for them. And I mean, I think that there is. I mean, within my mock draft, I think I have five freaking defensemen going in the top ten. So um, I mean, I could definitely see that happening. And we'll. We will, we will see if. If five defensemen get picked in the top ten. I feel like. I don't know if that's happened before, but there's a lot of good defensemen in this draft. I feel like all of them are, like, solid. They're going to make the NHL the only one. I have a little bit of questions about Siliav, just because he's got some holes in this game and he's just kind of an unconventional player compared to some of these other players.
[01:07:50] Speaker A: But number ten, number ten, I have Sam Dickinson as well.
He's a point per game defenseman in the OHL.
I mean, I think New Jersey also is in that boat where they were disappointing last year to be picking 10th for a team in New Jersey that beat the Rangers who just went, won the president's trophy this year. Like, New Jersey was a good team last year and I mean, I know Jack Hughes was hurt for some of the season and I think they can use some more of the depth and maybe just some younger guys on the roster. But yeah, I think you make a good point with them needing a defenseman. I mean, they've got Luke Hughes, who I think is making a great impact for them. But I think Sam Dickinson's a good pick. But yeah, like you said, with all the defensemen being picked, this, this top ten, we'll see if that actually happens. Um, I wouldn't be too upset because the Sharks do also have the 12th or 14th. I don't remember exactly. Bad fan. Um, Sharks have one of the later picks. So if one of these guys on this list falls down to twelve and the Sharks can grab a defenseman as well as celebrini to these count guys level, wouldn't be too upset. But yeah, I think I'm very excited for this draft. I think.
I think last year's was very, very hyped with obviously, Conor Berdard, but there was a lot of strong players in that top four, even five picks with, you know, Leo Carlson, Adam Fantilly, Conor Berdard, Will Smith, like all those guys were great players. And I think.
I think as a Sharks fan, I kind of knew Will Smith was going for, um, honestly shocked that Leo Carlson got picked second. But, um, yeah, I think this, this.
[01:09:41] Speaker B: Year going 7th too.
[01:09:43] Speaker A: That too. Yeah. Mitchikov, I forgot about him. Yeah. So like, I feel like we were kind of blessed last year with the outstanding draft where this year I think it's a good, solid draft. Better than most. But last year we were just blessed with Conor Bedard and yeah, everyone else getting picked. So I feel there's going to be.
[01:10:02] Speaker B: Some sneaky picks at the end of the after five, some of these teams might fuck themselves on. I think the top three are going to be pretty solid picks, but I think four and five, Columbus, Montreal, I feel one of them could definitely fumble the bag. I mean, Montreal folds it last year.
[01:10:19] Speaker A: It's a tough spot to pick at. It's a very hard spot to be.
So I don't know.
It's picking fifth in a draft like this is just. There's no even. Last year, who was David? Yeah, they had fifth last year, David Reinbacher. And look what happened. Yeah, him.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: So mostly it's only like 19.
[01:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. We're giving him too much shit right now. So we'll see how everything turns out. But I'm excited for the future of the NHL and I'm excited for the future of the Sharks. And I know you're excited for the future of Calgary if TJ again like it's picked especially. But I believe that wraps up our show.
This will be out Wednesday, so game three is on Thursday. So tomorrow, when you guys listen to this, tomorrow night at 06:00 p.m. mountain time, wherever you're at, be sure to watch those so you can keep up with us. We'll be back next Wednesday.
We'll see how this series shakes out. We could have the end of the season podcast episode if this game goes to four, and if not, we could still be talking about the playoffs. So we'll see. But do you have any last, last remarks before we get on out of here?
[01:11:33] Speaker B: No, I think we'll, we'll finish up this mock draft. It's going to be kind of up in the air. It's a little bit difficult. Like we said, we're not an analysts that scouts dive and scout this, this draft the whole year. But I think we could probably throw together at least pixter eleven through 32. Yeah, maybe throw in some. I mean, we're not going to go too much into it. Maybe for the first few picks for next mock, but yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm excited for the draft, excited for the game three, game four, whatever the series is going to go to. It's been a good ride so far. So let's keep it up and thank you for listening.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: Yeah, if you're at this point. Thank you. You watched the entire show. Uh, go follow us on instagram if you're not at Goodle Hockey podcast. Gonna plug it one more time.
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