Episode Transcript
[00:00:10] Speaker A: All right everybody, welcome back to the good old hockey podcast. This is episode number 47. 47, Alan. Been a great week.
We won our game.
Our barely game. We were.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: Smacked them.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Smacked them. That was pure.
A little bit of hatred involved, honestly. Yeah, it was a little rough for them, but I had a lot of fun that game. I got an apple.
Can't really complain. You played lights out. So it was a fun, fun game. We got another one tomorrow. We'll update you guys then. But do you know what our record is now? Is it like.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: I think we're, I think we're 4, 2 and 1. We're in second in our league. And then I, I subbed for the team that played the team in first, beat them, had had to go all out, but it was a good time. We're looking strong.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Yeah, no, we are, but.
Yeah. How was this weekend? Was, was fun. There's a lot of, A lot of sports going on. Boise State beat San Jose State, your alma mater.
That game was really nervous for me, not gonna lie. I know. I don't know. I don't think you were at work when I was playing.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I was at work and I was, I by the time I got home and I was ready to go over to my buddy's house to go watch the UFC fights game was already over. I heard it a lot from everybody that was there as they all big BSU fans and I was make. I was talking a lot of. At work when San Jose state was up 14 0.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Yeah, you had every right to at that point.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know, there's also something to be said about talking at the beginning of the second quarter of a football game.
It's only a two score game and you're playing the 13th ranked team in the country. It's probably not a good idea to talk, but yeah, you know, it was fun time.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks promising. At first it was a little. It was. I was nervous first half, but yeah, a lot of fights this weekend too. We had Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.
Stu. I didn't even watch it. Not gonna lie, did not watch. I could tell that it was going to be another Jake Paul ego fest just trying to beat up on some 50 year old man. Yeah, granted that 50 year old man is Mike Tyson, but still you got a guy most athletic prime versus a dude who also has abused a lot of drugs in his days.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: You're talking about steroid user who's 27, 28, whatever he is fighting a 58 year old guy. Yes, he's Mike Tyson. He's not Iron Mike Tyson, who's knocking everybody out in the heavyweight. In every heavyweight division. All four. Exactly.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Boxing, yeah, it's. I thought that fight was stupid. I did not watch it, but did watch the UFC event.
What are your thoughts on Jon Jones ducking Tom Aspinall?
[00:03:15] Speaker A: Jon Jones, I mean, we've been talking about this in some group chats all day and I don't know, like, I really. I used to love the UFC like 2010, that era. I'd watch with my dad a lot. I haven't really been keeping up with it a lot, but I just know that Jon Jones has always kind of been a controversial figure.
I think he's a great fighter. He would kick my ass, but in the sport of ufc, I just, I don't know if I can give him his flowers because of all the cheating that's gone on and like you had mentioned, all the ducking that has gone in his career. He's. He's Jake Paul. He's Jake Paul. The ufc.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: Yeah. He stood out of the UFC heavyweight division for two years, avoiding Francis Ngannou jumps up, beats Cyril gone for the heavyweight title, who never even held the belt. It was a vacant title fight.
[00:04:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:10] Speaker B: And he's fighting a pure kickboxer. Obviously Jon Jones is going to win that fight. Now he's ducking Tom Aspinall to fight a retired Stipe. Not retired, but his day job. Yeah, he's retired now. Yeah. It's not like that's Prime Stipe, who's the heavyweight goat. That's 42 year old Stipe who looked awful and of course he's gonna beat him. He's still Jon Jones.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Steroids don't make him a bad fighter.
The cocaine doesn't make him a bad fighter. That, yeah, I'm not going to get into the rest of it, but yeah, the character flaws. He's a bad human, bad fighter. Yeah, but you're. It's an irrelevant fight. Fight Tom Aspinall. Yeah, he's the clear number one contender and he's gonna beat his ass.
The only reason he's not taking that fight.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah, but yeah, he's. I don't know, but it's not a UFC podcast. But we just want to talk about it a little bit.
But we got some big news out of the NHL this last week. Some records being chased, records being broken. Connor McDavid is the fourth youngest player to ever hit 1,000 career points.
Did at 27 years old. At 659 games played.
Just I mean, unbelievable player. We could have seen this coming. Yeah. He was only three games off from tying Mike Boss's record. He could have been third, but.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: What do you think about McDavid's?
[00:05:43] Speaker B: I think it. It seems like.
Because it doesn't seem like we're watching history. We're watching one of the greatest players to ever play the game of ice hockey. Right. And it's pretty cool to see a record like that, just because, obviously, Wayne Gretzky. His numbers on this, we'll get into in a second. They're kind of untouchable. Yeah, It's. But it's wild to see somebody get even remotely close to do it in 659 games is.
That's astonishing.
It's. It's really cool to see.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it really is.
Yeah. There's some, you know, crazy, crazy records just being chased this season. Another aggressive record being chasing, which we'll get into later. But I want to talk about Wayne Gretzky and the fact that he broke a thousand career points at the age of 23. It's just crazy. That guy is the goat of all goats. Every sport, any sport. I don't care what his competition was.
That argument is really stupid, because it just shows how much better he was in his competition, and that's, to me, what a goat is. Yeah.
Yeah. Nowadays, if you put Gretzky in the NHL, I don't.
His IQ is great, but, like, he shaped the game. And I just don't like the comparing errors thing, because obviously, Connor McDavid's a better hockey player, skill on skill, versus Wayne Gretzky. But what Wayne Gretzky did with the game of hockey was just transcendent compared to any other player, any other sport, any fighter, whatever you want to say. Gretzky is the goat of all goats.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: It's crazy. You look at, like, this is. This is a stat that I find hilarious. Wayne Gretzky, he is the first place and fastest to a thousand points. He would be second from 1,000 to 2,000. So he put up his first thousand points in 424 games, his second thousand points in 433 games. Mario Lemieux, the closest to that at over 500 games. Like 513. Right. That's a wild. You think about it like, people always like to say, oh, Gretzky wasn't that good. He can't lift the puck. You know, there's certain podcasts that maybe come out of Canada that are, you know, licensed by a major TV network. They're like, oh, he can't lift the puck. He sucks. Right. You look at his competition, Mario Lemieux is by far the closest thing we've ever seen to Wayne Gretzky. Right. And he still did it in 80 less hockey games.
[00:08:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Than Wayne Gretzky was able to. That's ridiculous.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it is. And like, I mean, I think Mario's career got cut pretty short, but. Yeah, but still, like, I mean, way now having the two, like from 1000 to 2000, which means he was probably what, 28, 27 when he hit 2003 points.
[00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Which is just unbelievable.
I mean, I think McDavid could possibly hit that 2000 mark if he keeps it up, you know, but, yeah, Wayne Gretzky is just.
Yeah, he blows my mind. And I kind of wish I was old enough to watch him, you know, in his prime. Yeah. Let's be able to witness that history.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Another funny stat. Wayne Gretzky wise, He had more four plus point games than he did zero point games. He had like 217 four plus point games. Something like that. It's some crazy number. Yeah, like 203 zero point games.
There are more games where Gretzky was scoring the league average goal per game.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: For an entire team.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:09:36] Speaker B: Then he did getting shut out. I find that ridiculous. There's also the. The funny stat that surfaced up on Twitter. I was like, if Wayne Gretzky never had a.
If you never had a game where he just put up a point, two points or three points, he would still have a thousand points.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: If he never. If Wayne Gretzky never scored a goal in his career, take away all of his goals, just as assists. He's still the leading.
He's still leading the league in points for all time.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: He's still above Yarmouth and Yarmer. Yager played till he was what, 42, 43 is.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: I think he was 43 when he retired. Yeah, he played like 1700 NHL, get 1600 NHL games, something crazy like that. I don't know the exact stat, but I just find that ridiculous. There's so many Gretzky stats that you read and you're like, wait, what? That doesn't make any sense. But then they're all true. And it's like, how did that happen?
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: So, yeah, Wayne Gretzky is the goat of all goats. I think anyone watching this podcast agrees. But I guarantee there's some people out there who want to throw shade at Wayne Gretzky. And I will back him up till the day I Die. Because I don't want to Hear no about LeBron. Don't give a. Michael Jordan.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: Nope.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: Tom Brady. Nope. Joe Montana. Nope. I can keep going.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: I'm gonna make a quick, quick, hot take here. This is a football hot take.
[00:11:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: If I'm making the greatest team of all time. Right.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: I'm not going to get into my pick. Right. If I'm making the greatest team of all time. Football team, 52 man roster, right? You got a depth chart. Like 10 quarterbacks.
Tom Brady's like maybe sixth.
If you have to win, like if you have to win one game, you want to put the best roster out there possible. Tom Brady's like sixth.
I don't think he's that great. Yeah, he's great. That's the thing about Wayne Gretzky. Tom Brady, this is great. It wasn't that talented though. I'll stick with that.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: Anyways, let's move.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: You think he's assistant quarterback?
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. Through checkdowns his entire career.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: That's fair. I'm not, I'm not expertise in. In football, you might have to argue with the football boys to settle down, but.
Yeah, I don't think anyone will listen to you. But what they will listen to is the fact that Wayne Gretzky is the goat of all goats. So we made McDavid's news about Wayne Gretzky and get McDavid, but congratulations to him. Also, quick shout out to Dustin Wolf. His first NHL shutout.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: I saw that.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: Impressive.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: That kid's gonna be nasty.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: He is.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: He's already nasty. He's in the NHL, but he's gonna be gross.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: He is. Yeah.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: Just sucks he's on the radio. Yeah. Maybe he'll come back to San Jose. I'll come home, but who knows?
[00:12:26] Speaker A: I don't know if we'll need him. We gotta ask her off.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: You gotta start talking, dude. Imagine that one, two punch.
Yes.
We could have like $20 million wrapped up in goalies in 10 years. But it'll be fine.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: It'll be worth it. It'll be worth it. But next piece of news, Martin Natures is getting hot. He's on a 13 game point streak. He's got 30 points, third in the league. The Hurricanes are 8 and 2 in their last 10. And at the time of this recording on Monday night, the Hurricanes are leading the metro.
Martin Natures is having a week and a half just with this streak. But I want to get your thoughts on Natures and the Canes.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: I thought it was kind of ridiculous that there Were talks that they were going to let go of natures right over this past offseason. You think about the guy's 25. He has a 70 point season under his belt.
He wasn't even like a. He was a regular NHLer at like 19, 20, 21, I want to say. Right. He's regular NHL at like 21. He's just now kind of getting the strike going. He's got a 70 point season.
Last year he put up 24 goals, 29 assists for 53 points, 77 games.
He's on track to beat that in 30, like 30 games this season.
Obviously nobody really saw that coming, but he's gross. He's third in league scoring. He's got 30 points in 17 games.
They've always kind of had this issue, Carolina, where they've had great players over the years. Obviously back when they won the cup in 06, they had. Eric Stahl was. I think it was like second or third year in the league and he was nasty.
But that team was built around their defense. Right. Cam Ward stood on his head that entire playoff run in these last few seasons where they've really been a dominant team. They've been built around their defense. They haven't had like a guy who's gonna go out and get you a 90 to 100 points. They had Sebastian Ajo. It's great. He's right above point per game player, right. Last few years, but he's not like that stud up front, you know what I'm saying? He's like, yeah, play both sides of the puck, get you 80 points and also kill penalties guy, which is spectacular to have. Yeah. But now you have Marty Natures who's pacing. I mean, this. I don't think it's sustainable, but he's pacing like 200 points right now. 160 points, whatever. Whatever 82 times two is. Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous though. Like, yeah, I don't think anybody saw that coming. But this is gonna. I genuinely think this team with a number one like guy that's going to be competing for an Art Ross, they are an actual Stanley cup contender. They've been pretenders the last couple years.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they have. And like, I kind of feel, as a Sharks fan, I feel for them because they've had these rosters that. And like the Sharks had a number one man, but I don't know. We're not gonna get into it, but I just feel for them in the sense of.
I feel for them. Yeah, it'll be later.
I feel for Them in the sense that, you know, they haven't really had a complete roster to make a run for the Cup. They've had a great team, but they have not had like a Stanley cup contending roster. Yeah. So if he keeps it up, I mean, I think there's definitely who's in net for them though, right now.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: So it's for. It's a mix between Frederick Anderson and Peter Kachekov. I want to say is how you say his name. I forget Anderson was injured earlier this season. Also, I said Frederick, not Freddie, which sounds weird, but.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: Yeah, use his full name.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah. It's because he needs to stay healthy. He's Guy's made of glass bones. Glass bones, paper skin.
Yeah.
[00:16:26] Speaker A: If they had this a little bit more solid presence in net, I would give that they would be my.
One of my picks for a possible Stanley cup run.
[00:16:35] Speaker B: But the way I look at it, for them, Kachekov is going to be nasty. He's already. I think he's like 70 in his last seven games. Something like that. Like, he's already a very decent NHL goalie.
And Freddie Anderson went healthy.
Is spectacular. The problem is he cannot. Yeah. So check off has been pretty good. He's 920 right now this season. 242 goals against average. 904 save percentage.
Anderson, when healthy, is one of the best goalies in the NHL.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: The problem is he's healthy for like six games at a time and then is out for two weeks or for like two months with some nagging injury that he can't come back from. And it's like, if you're going to have a number one guy like that who's probably. When he's good and playing, I'd say he's probably a top five, top ten goalie in the NHL pretty easily. Top ten, I'd say probably push him top five.
You need that guy there. He needs to be a rock like Connor Hellebuyck. How he's consistently the best goalie in the NHL. It seems like year in, year out, you need that guy to go anywhere. And I know that's a bad example because Winnipeg hasn't gone anywhere in the last few seasons, but yeah, you need him to be there. Is like he's just injured all the time. I think if Kachekov can come in and. And kind of take over the reins, he's told he's like 22. Yeah, he's 25. Sorry, I'm way off on that.
Either way, if he come in, take over, they're going to be set to go and for a long time they have a younger core of guys like they're set to go for the next 5, 10 years with minimal changes. Obviously Jacob Slavin is going to start getting up there in age, but outside of that their roster is pretty young.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we'll see how this Hurricanes team turns out.
I just hope it doesn't turn into that like that they're just pretenders and they have this solid roster of decent to great players but no one to really push them beyond. And I don't really know.
Their decor does not attract me too much to want to give them any Stanley cup run this season.
But we've seen crazy things happen. So I mean like we've said, if you have a hot goalie you can go pretty far in the playoffs. But I don't know. We'll see. The, the Eastern Conference is always really tough as of right now.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: So the other guy. So their D. I just want to get on this quick. Real quick.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Their decor has taken a massive step back as of last season. Obviously they lost three guys that would be on any team's top two pairing.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: Or two guys who'd been on any team's top two pairing.
But one guy who's really stepped up here. I'm looking at the stat. Shane Gostis beer is back from the dead. I remember, I think it was his rookie season in Philly. He put up like 40 something points. We're like who the heck is this guy?
[00:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: And then he got buried in Arizona. Who the hell is going to watch him play there? He didn't really do too much. He's got 13 points in 17 games right now.
That's a massive step. Especially with Brent Burns being 40 years old taking a step back. 39 years old taking a step back.
That is a massive hole that is also helping them out. They've kind of cycled through offensive defensemen. So they had Burns last couple seasons that was like taking the rain first power play. Before that they had.
Why am I forgetting the guy's name? Tony D'Angelo, who was there for a brief period of time, kind of gave him some offense from the back end. But Shane Goss's beer has been nasty this year.
He's got three power play goals as a defenseman. 17 games. Pretty solid.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that is. Yeah.
So that's the Hurricanes. We'll see. We'll keep. Keep an eye on them. See how nature if he's, you know, still on that point trick next week. But another Person who's red hot is Alexander freaking Ovechkin, 39 year old. As of tonight, as of this Moment right now, 8:51pm On November 18th, Alex Vegetkin leads the NHL in goals. You heard that right, Alex. Vintage, Vintage OV is leading the league in goals with 14.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: I saw the other day he was pacing 58 goals when I looked the other day.
That's Vintage OV right there.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
On Sunday. Last night when we're recording, had a goal tonight. I haven't, I don't know if I've seen anything about him scoring again tonight, but this guy came out of nowhere. Like honestly, last season I was like, no, Obi's not gonna break it this season. Even at the start when we started recording again, I was like, he's hot. But I don't see it. I'm convinced Obi's doing it.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: I thought go after last season, I thought we were gonna see like a 15 goal season and then he's just gonna play until he's 50, just break that. Genuinely thought that was gonna happen because like even in games last year he did not look good.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: But I don't know if you've caught any Caps games this season. He's like back checking. There's like this clip of him back checking as they're up six. They're up like six to two and there's like a two on one and he skates back full speed and it's like, bro, you don't need to do that. Yeah, he's doing it. Which is awesome.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it is awesome.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: I think he's gonna break it like February. I think it'll be good February because he needs.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: He's 28 goals away.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: Three months.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah. If you count.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: Let's say he goes every other game.
How many games are we in this season right now?
[00:22:37] Speaker B: We are, we're like, it's not everyone. 18 games. Ish.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: Okay.
You give them.
Oh, he could do it in February. Oh, I'm gonna give him March.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: I'm saying he's scoring it. I don't know if they play on Valentine's Day, but he's doing it.
Like hop into a game with somebody else. Play on Valley beer league sub type deal. Yeah, no, I'm saying mid February breaks are accurate.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: See big gold. I don't know what they're gonna. I don't know what the NHL is going to do for him or the Capitals are going to do for him.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll probably stop the game and like.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: Or Something.
[00:23:15] Speaker B: Every player is on the ice.
It's going to be ridiculous.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: But, yeah, it'll be cool, I think. Yeah. Like I said, the beginning of the season, I was like, ah, I don't think he's gonna do it, but he's proven that. I also think he, like, he kind of wants to retire probably. He's probably tired and he's just like.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Go back to Russia.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, he's got to go with his buddy Putin and like. Yeah, he's got a.
He's like, I got to dial in this one last. I got one year to dial in and just shoot the rock. And.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: I mean, do you want to live. I don't know if he lives in D.C. or like, in one of the suburbs, in Virginia or Maryland or wherever the heck that is. Would you want to live there or you want to live with your family in Russia? Probably your family in Russia.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: Yeah, he had his. His dad. Was it last season that his dad passed away?
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Like, I think so.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: Like, that was probably a big burden on him. Yeah, not burden, but it's probably a bad choice words, but, like, it was heavy on him.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: To play hockey with, you know, that kind of news. So he wants to get back to the motherland and get. He wants. He. He's determined. We can see that.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: He wants to go play with Koozie in the khl.
[00:24:32] Speaker A: That, too. Yeah. Because that's over that crazy goal.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: God. Michigan mid slot.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
I've never seen that. I've never seen that ever.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: I don't think I ever. That's like one of those plays. Like, I kind of understand where torts is coming from.
[00:24:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: On the Michigan and whatnot. Like, I don't know if I like that, but that was still so nasty to pull up.
[00:24:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: It's not like he's in a beer league, too. No, he's played in the khl. Like, it's. It's probably the secondary. Bless you. Probably the second or third best league in the. In the world. I don't know where it ranks with the SHL right now, but that's nasty.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. He's not playing against a bunch of throwaway people. Like, it's a good league. The KHL is no joke. And he just pulls that off. And then his little bird, Selly, and, oh, my God, I couldn't believe that you sent that to me. And I was like, oh, I miss.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: When the Caps were, like, really good solely because that team was so fun to watch because you had, like, prime movie, you know, scoring slap shots. Every game. Yeah. Koozie scoring his stupid breakaways with the. With the. Well, not the stupid crap everyone's thinking of, but, you know, his breakaway goals. He's flying around, doing the bird. Celly.
Yeah. TJ Oshi just being gross. Such a fun team to watch.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: They were. Yeah. And, like, I kind of thought that they were. I mean, I don't think their outlook looks too good in the next couple years, but, you know, they gotta. They gotta soak out. Soak it all in. Because this is probably the last. Last year of excitement for the. The Capitals, especially if Ova's gone.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think if OV breaks record this year, I think he's done. I mean, what more do you have? What more do you have to play for?
[00:26:12] Speaker A: Yeah, there's really not much, but.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Well, besides to play with Sidney Crosby when. When he inevitably gets traded. True Capitals, right?
[00:26:21] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. When that happens, if you don't get that reference, go watch the last episode.
[00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Talked about some potential landing spots and some people hopped on our bandwagon. I heard some people talking about. Yeah. The Colorado Avalanche. They wanted to see. Oh, yeah, the Avalanche.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: So, yeah, it's not on our bandwagon.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, they were hopped on ours because we recorded first, but, yeah, they could see. I don't know. We'll see what happens. I mean, I think the Penguins.
That's pretty much. Y'all know, but the Penguins bring this up really quick. They're done, like.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Oh, they're done.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Blow it up.
[00:27:01] Speaker B: Blow it up so bad this year.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah, they did be the Sharks on.
[00:27:05] Speaker B: Saturday, but we're talking about beating the Sharks overtime.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Wait, the Sharks in over. In a shootout and they were. The Sharks were down 30 at one point. Yep, 3 1.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: So, quick side note about that game. Crosby is still chasing 600 goals.
He's getting real close to it, too.
I want to say he's hit his 599 against the Sharks. And then Mackenzie Blackwood being, you know, the. One of the best goalies in the NHL. I stand by that. Shut him down for all of overtime. He had like six shots in overtime. It was ridiculous.
[00:27:41] Speaker A: No way. I didn't get to see it.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: But that was such a good game. Go back and watch the highlights. It was crazy.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I was trying to pull it up on my phone, but.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: So the Pens right now I'm dumb. I know this wasn't on the schedule, but the Pens right now are 7, 10 and 3.
They're sitting in 25th. They have three games played more than the Ducks, and they are one point ahead of them in the standings.
More importantly. They look awful.
They look awful. It's bad coming from a Sharks fan. It's bad hockey to watch. It's like, wow, what is going on?
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Dude, it's. It's a retirement home out there. Yeah. The Sharks at least have some kind of spark with some. Some youth. Penguins don't. Aren't they the oldest team? Their average age is like 31, 32.
[00:28:34] Speaker B: They have been for a couple years now, too.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: Especially after adding Carlson, the only. I mean, Sid is still doing Sid things. That guy still girls.
I want to say he's back to about a point per game right now. But, like, you have Danny Malkin, who's, I think, the team leader in points.
And let's see here. I want to say he kind of fell off a cliff. Not like, not fell off a cliff, but, like, he's no longer, like, second in points. Yeah. He's sitting in 32nd in points now.
He has three points in his last five games, including three games where he's a minus two, minus two, minus four or zero points.
That's their best player right now. Sid's also there. It's kind of brutal.
They need to blow it up asap.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: No, they really do cut your losses. You have. They have Rutger McGrarty. That's their only prospect, to my knowledge.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: At least that's getting in games.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: And I haven't heard anything about him being very talented or at least scoring. So it's like, just let it go.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
But moving on to some controversy here. We have a typical Ryan Reeves move here.
He's swat, like, covered in controversy yet again. There was a hit. If you didn't see it, we can't show it here because YouTube will flag us for copyright. But I know you YouTube just lame.
Not you, but you suck. I don't know, but Ryan Reeves. Yeah. Goes in for a hit. It's kind of.
I think it's honestly just the speed of the game and how fast hockey is, but the whole controversy of it is, like, is his intent to go out and kill Darnell Nurse on that hit now, I think. Or to injure him, whatnot. Whatever it is, it was a high hit. Breeze is also six foot, what, six, seven?
[00:30:49] Speaker B: Six?
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Six?
[00:30:51] Speaker B: He's like six, five, I think. But yeah. Huge dude.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Huge guy. Darnell Nurse isn't small by any means, but the hit was pretty high right on Darnell Nurse's head. Nurse goes down.
He Gets suspended for five games.
Now, the whole thing with the intent thing is like, oh, his intent to go out and hurt Don, our nurse.
Well, my thing is, it is a check in hockey.
It's pretty aggressive.
The whole nature of checking someone. It's not to injure someone, but it's definitely to make them feel a little bit of the boom. Yeah. And I think that Darnell Nurse felt a bit of the boom.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: He felt the boom. That was a doom.
Yeah, that's awesome.
[00:31:47] Speaker A: Yeah. But, yeah, I think. I don't know. What do you think about his suspension and just that hit?
[00:31:52] Speaker B: Overall, it's a borderline hit for sure. Like, I don't think anybody's arguing that it's a borderline hit, but it's Ryan Reeves.
He's always played borderline. Right. That's what he's paid to do.
The two things I saw that stood out about that hit, I saw some people on, like, Instagram comment sections and whatnot talking about how he skated from center ice.
Like, oh, it's a charge. It's a charge. If you watch the hit, he stops like, there's no strides within probably 5, 6, 7ft of the actual check itself. Like, he's. It's not like he's flying full speed.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: He's 4 checking. It's not like he's. Yeah, I think it's just a four check.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: It's not. He's not gonna. He's not gonna coast in. Like, I'm pretty sure he loses roster spot if he was coasting on a four check.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he does let off last second. The only thing I saw that, like, the worst part about it, it was kind of an awkward position that Nurse was in. Nurse is also a tall guy and he kind of skates a little funky where he's like a little bit squatted down, like more than. Than your average ice hockey player skates.
And he's in a weird position. He has the puck off to the left hand side. First of all, you're a defenseman. You grew up playing defense. What do you not do in that situation? Hold the puck while skating around the net as if you guys flying in full speed at you, like, let go of the puck, pay attention to where people are in front of you. Don't put yourself in the position to get checked like that. Yeah, the, the main thing I saw that that was. That that was dirty about that is to me, it looked like he left his feet a little bit before the hit.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:35] Speaker B: Which in turn, contact with the head. I don't think the principal point of contact was the head. It was more of like a, like a bad angle hit to me where he was, he was coming in, trying to hit him on the side. But Nurse was a little bit slower than he was expecting. Or Braves was a little bit faster than he was expecting to be going in.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: And clipped him in the front. Right.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: Yeah. That's where what I see when people make the he jumped argument, I've done that when we were kids.
It was not because I was trying to kill the kid. It's because I was bad at hitting or.
[00:34:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: I up.
Like we have to remember that there's human error in this game.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: And it's not always because he wants to go out and kill the guy.
Granted, Reeves does not have the greatest reputation and I think that's what played into his suspension.
But there's a bit of error, I think that goes into that. And some of those high hits now, it's still a scary hit. Like, I don't, I don't think that that should be in the game of hockey being like going straight for the head.
And I mean, I think a five game suspension, it's kind of one of those things where it's like we're just gonna hit you with the rule book because we're gonna make an example out of you type thing.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: I think that's a repeat offender suspension. Like.
[00:34:55] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: If it's, you know, say it's like, who's a good example for this?
It didn't really. Anybody without any sort of suspension history doesn't have like. Like if Brad Marchand makes that hit, I think it's a 10 game suspension.
[00:35:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: Because it's Brad Marchand. Ryan Reeves does have a history. If Rafi Torres makes that hit, he's banned from the league forever.
Like we saw.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: He's the commissioner now though, of player safety.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Is he? No, George. Pharaohs George.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: That's. Yeah.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Which is still wild that he's.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: Yeah. But it's one of those things. I think the 5 gamer is just because he's a repeat offender. Like if you have like an Evan Bouchard or someone like that making that hit, he might get a game.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: I, I think it's still a suspendable hit because it. Although there's human error, you still got to be the same thing as like a high stake. Right. Like it could be completely unintentional, but you still got to control your stick.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: And not like, just don't miss your hit.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Don't be a jackass, don't miss your hit. Make connection with the shoulder. Don't leave your feet slightly before hitting.
But, yeah, I. It's an interesting, interesting situation. It, like, wasn't a clean hit, but I don't think it was like, that guy's the dirtiest player alive.
Yeah. Looking at it objectively.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: And also it's the Leafs, and I feel like the Leafs always get hit a little bit harder with stuff like that. Some people say the opposite. I don't know. Maybe it's because I like Auston Matthews. I don't hate the Leafs.
That's how I see it. I don't know.
[00:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:38] Speaker A: I think overall, I mean, I think it's fair. What happened.
Closing thoughts is just don't, don't up. Because like you said, perfect examples is like the high stick tripping may not be intentional, but you got to control yourself.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: My closing thought on this, if it was, like, completely intentionally just want to go out, kill a guy. Right. Why Darnell Nurse?
Why not, like, Evan Bouchard or somebody who impacts the game positively for the other team?
[00:37:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: Why not Connor McDavid or Leon Dry Saddle? Although I hate Leon Dry Saddle, it does positively impact the Oilers. Why Darnell Nurse? If you're like, I'm gonna go kill this guy, I want to take him off, guys.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: I want to put his $8 million over overpriced ass on the IR for the Revo.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: For next time, buddy. You hitting Darnell Nurse only helps the Oilers because then at the deadline, they can go get somebody better than them. So let's not do that anymore. All right, if you're listening.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: If you're listening.
That's funny. But, yeah, that is all the stuff we have here. If you enjoyed the episode. Thank you so much. We're going to get into our Sharks talk, though. We've been doing this, and they've been playing well. So if you enjoyed it to this point, you want to keep hearing us talk delusional about the Sharks, join us. Welcome. Welcome to the island that we are living on. But first piece of news is that the Sharks recalled Yaroslav Askarov.
That man's been on a tear in the AHL. Absolutely. Lighten it up. He's got 1.95 goals against average,939, say percentage and two shutouts. And I don't know how many games played, but I'm assuming probably eight or nine.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: I want to say it's nine.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So, big news. He's not playing tonight against the Red Wings, but I'm assuming he's probably gonna be playing next game, which I.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: So next game I want to say they play on Wednesday and they have another game on Thursday and then they play Saturday. Now I'm flying back to San Jose because Saturday night against the Buffalo Sabres is the Joe Thornton jersey retirement night. Yes, I went to the Marlowe one. I'm not missing this one. It was a great event last time.
I really hope he starts game one of the back to back because then I think the odds of him playing on Saturday when I get to watch them play are a lot higher than if they have Mackenzie Blackwood start. Then he'll play the second half of the back to back. Blackwood will be fresh for Saturday night's game. And I'm not opposed to watching Mackenzie Blackwood play. I just want to see my favorite goalie prospect play hockey.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: Very fair.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: So I'm pumped up for that.
Very, very excited.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think it'll be cool to see him. I have a feeling it's probably going to be his game on Thursday and they're gonna have Mackenzie fresh on Saturday, but would be cool to see that.
I'm excited even if it's for a couple a month or two that he's up here playing. I don't know if they have any plans with Vanna check at all.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: Hopefully get rid of him at the deadline.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: Yeah, the deadline.
But they have. I mean, they didn't recall anyone, so they got three goalies right now. And maybe it's just also for him. Yeah, I don't know what their plan is, but yeah, I'm excited to see him play. We'll probably talk about it next week when he has actually played. But another thing is Igor Shasturkin, your favorite goalie, made a comment about Macklin Celebrini because if you guys didn't see it, go look it up. But Shusturkin tried to go for an empty net goal and mack daddy was right there waiting for it and he stopped the puck from going in and he said what he say? He said that kid needs to be in school.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: Or something like that.
[00:40:47] Speaker B: Listen, buddy, listen, buddy.
If you're goalie and you want to score a goal, pick a better shot, all right? Because you just look like a clown. Imagine Celebrini had stopped that, right? East skates down. It was a one. It was a one goal game. I believe it was three to two. Yeah, it's a one goal game. Imagine Celebrini skates down, scores that goal. Now guess what? You just might have sacrificed your team a loss because you wanted to. You might have given your team a loss because you wanted to go for a goal. That's not how that works.
Pick a better time to shoot the puck. I think it'd be awesome to see more goalie goals, but pick a better time if you're gonna.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Second of all, Celebrini is going to be better than you are, equivalently in like two seasons. You suck.
He's gonna make more money than you. You just need to be in school for. So shut up.
[00:41:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Stay away from our man off.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: You're. You're a goalie. Don't talk.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah, shut your mouth. You declined also a ton of money, but yeah, I. That was so funny. That kid needs to be in school.
[00:41:51] Speaker B: Well, it's funny.
[00:41:53] Speaker A: You need to learn how to score a goal. Yeah. I mean, I think it was all good fun. We're probably just getting. But another thing though with the Sharks that I'm excited for is that Will Smith and Celebrini are playing online together. They are on Saturday and they're doing it tonight again, assuming everything.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: So I'm looking at this game right now. The Sharks and the Red Wings are currently playing. There's about a minute 12 left in the first. The wings are on a power play and it is. They just scored a power play goal. Like as I'm talking, it's two to one right now. Eklund had a power play girl goal earlier in the game, but overall, I mean, we'll see.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: The Red Wings, the assist.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: Walman had the assist against his team.
[00:42:42] Speaker A: That traded him for no reason. He has no idea why.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: Wonder if he hit the gritty on the assist. That'd be sick.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: Oh, he was the one that got the penalty.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:42:52] Speaker A: Too many.
[00:42:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: No. Well, he got interference call at 15 and then. Yeah, the one that they just scored on was too many. Too many men on the ice, which.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Is quick side note here.
Ovi's now up to 15 goals because he scored again. Oh, two goals. Two goals. He's. There's 18 minutes left in the third period, so realistically he has a shot at another.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: Hattie, he said five goals in two games.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: Knock on wood. Yeah. As a 39 year old, that guy is. So it was a power play goal. I'm sure it was a one timer from that same exact spot trying to figure out how to stop for 20 years now.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: You just can't.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: You gotta give up crazy.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Just stick a defender on him. Doesn't even make it a four on three, but just stick a guy on Obi.
[00:43:46] Speaker B: Yeah, but the problem was in his prime. They also had Backstrom and Mike Green for a while, then John Carlson to worry about other guys. TJ Oshi back when he was still like good Koozie. I don't know that team. That team was so sick in their prime.
Now they suck. But.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: Everyone, thank you for tuning in this week. We had some good headlines, some juicy topics to talk about. I feel like it's kind of been slow this season so far, but we're gonna be on OV watch the entire year. It seems like every week we're going to be talking about him.
Hopefully maybe talking about Sid's 600th goal next episode. And a Yaroslav Askarov shutout NHL debut in the future as well.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: He's played me. He has three games. I think of the NHL. But Sharks debut.
[00:44:42] Speaker A: Yes, Sharks debut.
But his shutout with the Sharks is going to be magnificent. Putting it in the in putting it in the universe. But thank you guys. We will see you guys next Wednesday. If you're not, go follow us on Instagram right below Alan at Good Old Hockey Podcast. Follow us on Twitter as well. We don't really use it, but go follow it in case we do decide to start using it. This is the new home of the podcast on the YouTube channel. If you listen on Spotify, go to YouTube at good old Hockey Podcast as well. Go there. You can see our beautiful faces. Talk hockey.
If you guys have any takes that you want us to react to anything crazy that Alan has said or I've said, you just want to bash us, throw it in the comments and just call us how crazy we are. We'll react to it next episode. But with that being said, Alan, I will see you tomorrow at our game and I will see you guys next week.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Peace. Peace.
