Episode Transcript
[00:00:10] Speaker A: What is going on, everybody? Welcome back to the good old hockey podcast. This is episode number 46, Alan. Four. Six.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: I've been a part of two of them.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that intro music is the Nashville Predators. Go horn.
And I think after this episode, we're gonna have to change it to the Sharks, mainly because when me and Galley were doing it, I didn't want to be homer to one side. And we've both been to a Predators game, so I picked that one. But after this episode, we're probably gonna have to change it to the Shark's goal horn. For those of you that missed last week's episode, Galley is working in Bloomington, Illinois, for the Bloomington Bison. So Alan, right here, my gracious co host, is filling in for him.
But Alan, we've got some catching up to do with the people listening. Me and Alan play on the same beer league team, so we're gonna have some talks during the season about our game last week. So last week, how was that? I mean, that was a much needed win for us. We won. What was it, 8 to 2, 8 to 4?
[00:01:16] Speaker B: Something like that?
[00:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: I don't really remember. I don't pay attention too much to the score, but pay attention to my own stats and. No, I'm kidding. Well, kind of.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: Hey, I didn't. I didn't assist, too.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: You had nice assist, too. Straight up the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good win. Much needed win. Need to get the feet moving. This season, we're two, two and one to start the year. I want to say two, two, and one. So a little slow start, but I think we're back on track here now, which is. That's good to. Good to see.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah, we are. Yeah, I'm excited. We've got.
You guys are listening this on Wednesday. We had a game last night, so we'll see how that went, but we'll tell you guys next week.
But, yeah, so far, it's been fun. I got my stick broken last week, which I wanted to literally rip the guy's head off because we went to the corner, I went to lift his stick, and I did hit his stick pretty hard. He turns around and hacks me. And I was like, what the. I look at the refs. They didn't see it. Um, and then I'm still on the ice. I got to make a pass to Tim, and my stick just folds. And Cody in the stands thought that I. He thought that I just had too much muscle on it.
I was like, that's far from the truth, but I'll let you believe that.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Broke my sticks.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I still haven't told him.
Luckily though, the weekend before I got my backup stick from my dad's house, so I had a backup stick there. Usually I don't have my backup stick, so I have it now.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: Always must when the old guys get angry, you keep an extra stick around.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: I know they were losing pretty bad at that point too, so. Yeah, I understand it. But still, dick move.
But regardless, moving on to coast. To coast. We got some headlines from this week. Alex Ovechkin is our first topic here. This man's on fire still. We talked about it last week.
Just maybe thought it was a hot start, but it's still a hot start. And what is he at right now? 10 goals.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: He's at 10 goals.
If he keeps this pace up, I'm saying he breaks the record before February. No, that's February, but I love to see it.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: What's he on pace for?
[00:03:43] Speaker B: He's on pace last time I checked for like 53 goals. He needs 34, 39. That's kind of crazy. Yeah, I think he's. I think he's gonna get there sooner rather than later.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think so too. I think it'll be.
I don't know. I really hope it's not just a hot start and he like goes. We. I think we said this off air, but if he goes like another 10 game stretch where he just doesn't have a goal, might have to pump the brakes on him. But as of right now, our OV watch looking fantastic.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: Great. The boys are buzzing. Dylan Strom still going off. Yeah, we'll get to that later.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: But unearthly.
Yeah. Dylan Str.
It's kind of like his career. He hasn't really broken out as a player. He's. What you said, third overall. He was third overall.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: Drafted third overall in 2015 behind Jack Eichel. Yeah.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: So you got Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel and then Dylan Strohm.
Those are big names right there. But he hasn't really had. I can look it up, but like he hasn't really had a breakout season by far at all.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Looked it up. We touched on it last week.
His highest point scoring season to date was 67 points, which I believe came last season. So like he's. He's coming around and he's a great player. He's a great like second line center. But this year he's really broken out into a premier center in the Hawk in the NHL, which is kind of crazy.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think it's Good for him.
You know, I think we've seen even last year with Sam Reinhardt, you could even say the year before that. But Sam Reinhardt really broke out last year and is continuing to do so. Sam Reinhardt was only drafted a year before Dylan Strom, though, so he's on the same path as Sam Reinhardt.
Will he turn out the same time? Will only tell. But I think it's interesting just, you know, some of these players that you just can't really give up on because, I mean, he's. How old's Dylan Strong?
[00:05:55] Speaker B: 26, something like that.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: I think he's young.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: I think he's 26. Yeah. That's still really a lot of time to play hockey. I mean, you think about it, a lot of guys retire. 35, 36, 37. Yep. Got a good 10 years in your prime left to go.
[00:06:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So if you can keep it up.
The only struggling. The thing I see for him is that he's on the Capitals. And. Yeah, I don't know how much time the Capitals have left in their prime, if they're even in their prime, you could say. But there's always other teams you can go to. I don't know what his contract's like, but he's making.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: I actually looked at it earlier. We're. Before we're live, he's making like 6 million or 5 or 6 mil. It's not much good.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: Good deal for whoever has him, but, yeah, we'll see. I don't know how many years he has left, but if he can. If he can keep it up, that's assuming that he can. Yeah.
But Moving on, number two on our list is Nathan McKinnon. This guy last week, he's my favorite for Heart and. No, no. Art Ross. Favorite for Art Ross. I think I said he wasn't really in the lead for most points in the. In the league last week, but the night we recorded, he recorded five assists in one game. And then the second game he had zero. And then the third game he played on the ninth, he had one goal and three assists. So.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Went off.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: Went off. I think Colorado, I mean, I think part of it, his struggle in the beginning was also Colorado struggles in the beginning, but clearly he's turned it around. And you know, Nathan McKinnon's Nathan McKinnon, I don't think you can ever really count him out, but now he's in the lead for. In the league with 29 points.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Yep. He watching them play, too. A good bit. Obviously, I have the ABS jerseys just because I like Nathan McKinnon, but they're looking better as a roster.
They lost to the jets the other night, but they won both of the games this week.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: The jets are on fire.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's.
It's one of those things where it's like they're gonna put it together. They're a good enough team where they're not going to keep. You know, I think they're in, like, 21st in the league right now as far as overall standings. They're not gonna consistently be there.
They're gonna dig themselves out of that once they're getting Valerie Nashkin back. He got cleared from leagues, whatever. Cocaine protocol. I don't really know. Yeah, he's allowed to come back. His suspension got lifted, so I'll be coming back pretty soon.
Gabe Landiscog has been skating. I saw that. That's only going to help them get better. And Nathan McKinnon is also taken over pretty quickly on. Yeah. As far as the points leaderboard. And I don't think that's going to stop Caleb. A car is in third, I want to say, with 24 points as a defenseman.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Which is ridiculous.
[00:09:10] Speaker A: Slap shot. His, like, off the rush. Slap shot. Goal.
[00:09:14] Speaker B: Yeah, vintage. Yeah, vintage.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: That was like Bobby. Or level. That was like Wayne Gretzky level.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: It looked like Wayne Gretzky off the rush.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: But.
But, yeah, they'll get back to it. And Nathan McKinnon's gonna keep taking over games and putting up four or five points and probably will them to a playoff spot, so.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: No, he will. I mean, it's Nathan McKinnon at the end of the day. Yeah. Great player, but I just thought it was crazy. Of course, the one night we talked about it, he then goes off with five points and he's playing tonight, too. I haven't checked if he scored or.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: Not, but I did not see if they scored. They're beating the. The Nashville Predators again.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Oh, that leads right in.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: Well, they lost last game. But real quick, before we get off Nathan McKinnon, I think that there is a legitimate argument that he is best player in the NHL.
Connor McDavid is Connor McDavid. And he's going to do Connor McDavid things. He's gross. But Nathan McKinnon often gets overlooked for that, which I find ridiculous. I think he could take over a game probably better than McDavid can. From watching. When we see both these teams play a lot watching the Sharks, that guy takes over games, and it's like when he's on the ice. Every second that he's on the ice, you're like, oh, crap, this guy's about to get a breakaway or, you know, two on one rush and.
[00:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Score a game winner. It's kind of ridiculous.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: Tonight. Okay, so now he's up. Up one more point with 30 points now.
Yeah. I mean, that's a Good point about McKinnon, I think. I think overlooked is a better way to look at it, because all the things you just said is exactly what you could say about McDavid. So I think McDavid's just a little bit scarier just because he's McDavid.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: But Nathan McKinnon, I think, is easily number two.
Well, yeah, I'll give him number two.
Yeah, it's. It's pretty close. Like, I feel like we've always had this conversation of, like, MC. Yeah. McDavid always being like, just way different. Like, just built different on the levels. But Nathan McKinnon, these last couple seasons have really proven that that's not really the case anymore.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I think it's also a factor. McDavid hasn't been quite as, like, statistically dominant the last couple years. Oh, last year and this year so far, you know, he's injured right now or was injured.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: He's still not. It's not like he's shining. Shining like.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Last season. Yeah. No, that's fair. Because what did McKinney. He won the heart last year.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Won the heart. Kucharov won the art Ross, and McDavid was in third in scoring. I want to say it was like five points back. Yeah, if that.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I think if. I mean, McKinnon stays healthy and McDavid and the Oilers still struggle.
I think that there's definitely a conversation to be had. I just, I. I personally find it hard to put McKinnon at one over McDavid just because it's McDavid.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: You know, maybe that's just a homer. Not even a homer take, but just a.
I don't know.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: I think it's a homer. Take that. I have McKinnon over because I don't have a deep seated hatred for the. The Colorado Avalanche. Like I have.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: You also have his jersey on.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah, man, whatever. Overlook that.
I just. I have a deep seated hatred for the Oilers. Yeah. From. I believe they bounced the Sharks in. That would have been 2018. So the 2015 or 2018 in Martin Jones.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: 2015 make the playoffs.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Huh.
Yeah.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: So it would have been 2018.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Either way. So I. I hate the Oilers. I hate their goal horn.
Connor McDavid's grossly on dry saddle sucks.
That's a point I'll stand on. That guy has no talent. He looks like Mark Stone out there.
He's awful. But somehow he racks up points because he gets to play with McDavid all the time anyway.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: People call him second. Wait, wait, I wanna, I want to hear you talk about that. Because people call him second best in the league. Leon Dry Seidel. That Oilers have the first and second best player in the league.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: So listen, Leon draisaitl, obviously he's a great hockey player. He's in the National Hockey League. He's getting paid, what, $13 million a season, whatever it is, to play a game. That's awesome. I'm. I'm extremely jealous of him. But at the same time, you watch him play. He doesn't do anything that fantastically besides shoot the puck from the corner. And it really pisses me off because you watch him skate with the puck. He's big and he's good at protecting the puck. He's kind of like Mika Ran with less skill.
He just gets power play points from playing with McDavid. That is my honest opinion on Leon Dry Salo. He's good at a couple things. He's best German player of all time. He's up there in the league competition.
Marcel Gotch, I don't know.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: Marcel Gotch. What a bag. Yeah.
Wild. Okay.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: Either way, I am not. I'm not a big dry silo guy. I don't think I.
He's somewhere in the top 10 for me.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: But I don't think he's pushing top five.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: They're.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: That's more respectable when you. My thing is when you say. Because we have these conversations a lot off air in the past couple years and you say these things where you say these players suck. So to me that means that they are not even remotely close to the top 100.
[00:15:10] Speaker B: I wouldn't pay him. I wouldn't pay him whatever contract he's making, you know, 8, 9 mil, probably. But you're a secondary piece to Connor McDavid and you will always be a secondary piece. I know there was that one season where McDavid was injured and he took over, won the scoring race, right?
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: But you're always going to be second to him.
Yeah, you got to pay him to keep him around. But like, I think that whatever $13 million he makes could be better spent on other pieces.
A guy like, there are a lot of other guys that make less than $10 million a year that you can add in another great hockey player.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: Better team. I also say Leon Draisaitl sucks because he ruined my fantasy team a couple years ago because he go off one week and then he'd put up zero points the next week. And my team was like very mediocre because of it. So I hate him because of that.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: That's fair.
You know, when I think of Alan and the takes that you have, I never think that you're biased, ever. I never sit there and be like, there must be something else that he has deep rooted hatred for.
There's another player. We'll save it for another episode. But there's another player that you and I both agree sucks, but he's garbage. Yeah, we'll save it for another episode when they're relevant. Yeah.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Ignore it. I said his name earlier. It's Mark Stone. I hate him.
[00:16:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. We'll go in depth on another episode when he gets hurt in February and goes on the iron.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: But moving on next game one.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Nashville. The Nashville Predators. Another week of us hating on them. Mainly because I think it's just funny that they spent all this money in the off season and everyone wanted to hype them up and call them a playoff team which season isn't over. They could, you know, come back, but.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: They could. They probably won't.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: They could. But guess what? They're not. They're not back right now because they still suck.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: They're losing right now.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: Yep. They're dead last in the standings and they also have the worst point percentage. So don't come at us for the games played bs.
But yeah, I mean, how many points does Stamco's have since we've lost?
[00:17:32] Speaker B: He's actually dragged it back. I looked at it the other day because I was curious. I was trying to chirp Tim in our group chat and I was gonna say something ridiculous about Stan Co's getting paid, you know, $4 million a goal or whatever, and he's dragged it back. He had like eight points when I checked.
So it's like it's coming together, but they're still not winning games. They beat the Avalanche a few days back, but the abs have been mediocre starting out the season. They're just now kind of turning it on where they're putting up big points, which is what they need to do to win. Yeah.
Other than that, like they're dead last in the standings. Were 15 games into the year or almost a quarter of the way through the season.
And they're still awful. Yeah, they are looking not very good. I can't really pinpoint what's been going wrong. Besides, they're letting in too many goals, but it's not like a ridiculous amount.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Just looking here, they have 50 goal, 50 goals against in 15 games played.
Montreal is the team directly ahead of them. They have another game play, but their point percentage is higher.
They have 67 goals against in 16 games. So it's not like they're like, letting in an absurd amount of goals. Pittsburgh is 68. Philly has 58. They're just not getting the scoring. The Sharks have 60. I wasn't going to mention that one, but I was just curious.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: I was honestly curious.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: I think we have more points going thing. Yeah.
Which is interesting because they just spent so much money in the off season.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: Unlike two legit goal scores, too. I mean, Jonathan Marcia. So I wouldn't say legit will score, but he's what, 30 goal score.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: I think he had 40. Did he?
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: I think he put up 41 season and con Smythe winner.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: Like, you can't really argue with that. He's playing well, too, in the overall stats department. Okay, let's see here.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: I'm trying to break down, like, what could be the issue for this team. If it's just a bad luck stretch or.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: I really don't know. I think they'll probably figure it out. Don't clip this and put it on the Internet so Tim can see it. Yeah, but I think they are gonna figure it out. They'll put it together. They're not a bad team overall. It's just right now, they're awful.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I think it's just. It's kind of like. Especially when you get a new locker room like this. And not to say that, like, teams don't add players all the time, but I. Especially a player like Steven Stamkos and Jonathan Marcia, so. Who were pretty staple, you know, players in their own respective locker rooms now, to come into this Nashville team and be, you know, try to fit in where they're supposed to fit in. Yeah, it's a lot easier said than done.
I think that's what happened to the Sharks, honestly. We'll get into that later.
But, you know, they had a rough start, and when it's a new team like this, all these new players and trying to fit, find roles for these players, it's like, I just think it's tough to really, like, cement that and get a good thing going. But we'll see how Honestly, they turn.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: Out the other thing to think about with that, too. It's like this is basically a whole new core. Like, there's still some core guys there from last season. Roman Yossi got Philip Forsberg. Guys like that are still around Ryan O'Reilly, but you're talking about adding Brady Shea, Steven Stamkos, Jonathan Marches. So those are big pieces and guys that are playing high, high up your lineup that you're just adding basically overnight. They, you know, going into the season, never played a game together before.
Like, there's gonna be some time to adjust to that. Looking at it now.
Okay. Jonathan March, so only has nine points in 15 games. So he's not doing great. But it's just like it's gonna take time to figure out. Yeah, but like, I did not think they were going to be this bad, you know. UC Sorrows has as many points as Luke Shan. I'm looking at it right now.
Yeah, he's got more points than Colton Sissons. He's got more points than Jeremy Lazan. He's got more points than Philip Tomasino.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: So it seems like a depth thing that's kind of.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: They have. There's no depth goal scoring there. They have. Philip Forsberg's got 13 points in 15 games. Their next highest point scorer. They have two guys at 10. A bunch of guys. So Philip is seven.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: Philip is leading their team with 13 points. Yes.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: He has eight goals, five assists. He's a minus five. Romanios, he's a minus 11.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Don't do it.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: Plus minus isn't a good stat, but. No, it is not as many.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: So they're 1, 2, 3, 4 guys on this roster with two points. That starts at the 11th highest point score. Forwards and defenseman. And then your goalie is tied with the next best guy.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: Being tied is crazy.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: That was. That's like an ESPN stat. But, like, it's still really bad if you think about it. You got multiple.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: There was one tonight for the the Sharks. It was Jack Thompson.
The graphic that they pulled up on NBC Sports was second rookie to ever score on the New Jersey Devils for the San Jose Sharks. I was like, you guys are just pulling stats out of your ass. Like, what is that?
[00:23:37] Speaker B: It would be the first.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: I have no idea. It's probably.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Probably some random guy. Yeah.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: Like, it's really not that wrong.
Yeah, but that's fun, I think. Yeah, it was for the Sharks, too. So it's just, I don't know, random ESPN stats, but it's still fun. Some of those ESPN stats are Just funny too, though.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: To see, like, LeBron is the first player over 35 to score when it's 75 degrees out. I just find it funny in Kentucky while they're playing.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Mark Jankowski has played 12 games for the Nashville Predators. UC Sorrows has played 12 games for Nashville Predators. Mark Jankowski is a center and he has the same amount of goals as UC Sorrows and the same amount of assists through 12 games. And that's someone. He's probably their third. Probably a fourth line center. Yeah, but he's playing 12 games.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he is.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: Luke Shen's like a.
He's a solid defenseman who's playing.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: He's averaging 15 minutes a night, so it's probably on the third pairing. Yeah, but it's still 15 minutes a night, you know, trying to score goals.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: And he's got the same amount of points as UC Sorrows.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
Oh, boy. Yeah, it's brutal.
[00:24:53] Speaker B: Anyways, that's enough Nashville talk.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Yeah, enough Nashville on last thing.
In light of the election last Tuesday, whatever you think, politically, that's not. We're here to talk about. Jack Hughes received one vote in the state of New Jersey. Jack Hughes, you heard that right. Got a right in vote, which I'm sure there's.
I'm curious, how many other hockey players got a write in vote? This is the only one I saw on Instagram.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: But even though Sid's a Canadian, I am sure that Sid has gotten votes out of. Out of Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah, I'm sure he has guys like that.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Wayne Gretzky.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Mitch probably got one too.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: Oh, probably. There's probably 50 of them. People are stupid.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure that'd be so funny. Matthew Mitchkov, the Russian too. That would be.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: He took a brutal penalty to start OT tonight against the Sharks.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it was rookie on rookie too.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: It was so funny. It was awful.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: Either way, I'd vote for Jack Hughes. I think he's got a few years left before he can be the President of the United States. But he's a funny guy. Funny guy who knows what his politics are like, but who cares? Just get a hockey.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's all in my book. Honestly, when I look for a president, I say, can they skate?
[00:26:12] Speaker B: Jack Hughes is gonna make hockey great again.
Can't put that on air, huh?
[00:26:20] Speaker A: Mhga. No, that's not a good acronym. No, it's good.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: It doesn't work.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah, but Jack Hughes, man. Yeah, we gotta wait. He's not 35 yet, so maybe when he's done with hockey, he can get into the political game. I think he'd handle the media really well. It'd be so funny. He would just, like, shake his head and be like, what do you think of the State of the Union right now? He's just like, I don't know. I'm. I'm.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not even the president yet. I'm just a nominee.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: I don't really know how I got here, but. Yeah, but we're gonna move on to a new segment we're going to try out. It's called Hot Takes. And this first one came up by ourselves. But for any of you watching or listening, if you guys have one that you want us to react to, whether it's yours or some other person you've heard someone you watched on the Internet and you're like, what the hell is this guy smoking?
Go to Good Old Hockey Podcast on the Instagram right down below Alan at Good Old Hockey Podcast. That's G, double O, D O L, H O, C K E, Y, P O, D, C A, S, T.
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[00:27:31] Speaker B: Oh, that's fair.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: See what's underneath you. So go follow us. You're going to DM us a hot take. We'll put on the story from here time to time, if I remember.
And we want you to fill out some hot takes, and we're going to react to those hot takes, whether they're yours or a buddy of yours. If you know your friend says that Leon Dry Seidel sucks, we can all.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: Agree with them 100.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: Alan might agree with most of the hot takes, but we want to hear him. So we're gonna start it out. But saw this one today because of the recent game that just happened on Monday night that the Pittsburgh Penguins lost to the Dallas Stars 7 to 1 tonight. It was 60 after the first.
And you know the Pittsburgh Penguins have been struggling all season and last season as well, didn't make the playoffs. They've got 16 point. Or Sid has 16 points in 15 games. So he's under a point per game right now. No other way around. Sorry. 15 points, 16 games. My bad. Penguins are 6, 9 and 2. And you know what? This hot take.
Get Sid out of. Out of Pittsburgh. Get him out right now.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: Get him out of there.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Free him. He needs to be free. I think he's done his time there.
Won, what, three Stanley Cups with them.
He's had his fun, but I think, you know, he's probably what, 36? 37.
[00:28:56] Speaker B: Now he's 37 on the same. He's getting up there.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: Ain't getting any younger.
[00:29:03] Speaker A: Saw this, and honestly, I kind of agree with it. I think it's time that the Penguins move on from him. As weird as it would be to watch Sid in any other jersey, I said the same thing about Patrick Kane, and it's pretty normal now, but I feel like Sid is just, duh.
[00:29:19] Speaker B: It's one of those. That team, they have made the playoffs, so last year was their first time missing it. And I want to say 16 seasons. Sidney Crosby had not missed the playoffs until last year.
It's one of those things where it's like, you guys have had so much franchise success.
He's been around. He's done it. All right.
You're gonna let him go out on such a low note? I'm sure Sid doesn't want to get out of Pittsburgh.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: No.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: But guess what? He needs to. All right. I'm gonna have a conversation with him. We'll call him up on the phone.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: This is like an intervention, where you know your buddy, your buddies with this toxic girl that you need to break them up. That's what we're doing right now. We're here to sit. Sit down and be like, hey, bud, this girl's not good enough for you.
[00:30:07] Speaker B: Not for you. King crazy. Yeah. You have one of the greatest players in NHL history. You're going to let him wean away the rest of his career on a team just because they got drafted or you got drafted by him? Right. Now, I know the city's probably done a lot for him, made him a person, like a. Like an adult, whatever, all that kind of stuff.
But at the same time, hockey's a business. If he hadn't panned out, they would have gotten rid of him very quickly.
[00:30:34] Speaker A: True.
[00:30:35] Speaker B: You got to think about it like you don't owe the team anything. You won them three Stanley Cups. You scored many, many points over 1600 points. Now you've won them games for the last 17 years.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: Like, you don't owe them anything. Yeah. You probably settled down there. But listen, buddy, you can leave for a couple years, come back, join management.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Does he have, like, a wife and kids at all? I feel like I need to see.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: So he's, like, super private about his family life.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: I think I remember when he scored 15. Was it 1500 points? I forget. It might have been 500 goals. It was during COVID I remember watching the ceremony for it. And they brought. They called, they addressed her as his partner. I don't believe he has kids.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: But.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: He'S been, he's been with some lady for a minute.
But at the same time, it's. You don't owe the team anything. You've given them everything. They're not going anywhere specifically because of you.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: Right.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: You gave Francis, you kept it there.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Like, go win, win out your last couple seasons. Go to. Go to a better team and then you can go back once you retire from professional plane. Right. You could go be a coach, go be a gm, go be something like that. Join Mary Lemieux in the, in the, in the office. Right.
You don't have to be there your entire career. And you've seen that more and more nowadays with guys moving on. Obviously Stam coast wanted to stay, but that's like the biggest Davis example recently. That guy played his entire career up until this season with Tampa, won everything. You did everything.
Like, you don't have to stay. Go back a couple years. Patrick Kane, he did everything with that team. He doesn't owe him anything. Right.
They're gonna be bad. You're gonna spend the last couple years of your career, first of all, not maximizing.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
I also think, though, like, for him, especially with that Eric Carlson trade, I think they were trying to get as much for him as they could, some support and you know, I could have called it. I did call it, I think.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: But he'll go off in a couple years with another Norris and then continue to be mediocre for the rest of his career.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Like getting a player like that, I think helped him stay and like, honestly gave him some life because it is Eric Carlson at the end of the day. But it is a retirement home over there right now and he needs to go join some teams. We're going to talk about some of those teams, but he, I think could provide some. Some good veteran experience. It's Sydney Crosby anywhere he could play, really, and help that team out tremendously. But he's still on that 8.7 contract. And he resigned with the Penguins with that 8.7 contract.
Even with who he is right now and with the cap going up, which I think is just a lucky thing. And I mean, it's kind of a different tangent, but those team friendly deals only work when the rest of the team does it and that, like, he can go utilize this 8.7 contract. He can go utilize this anywhere else in the league. And I'm sure there's some teams that could use them, One of them being the Winnipeg jets.
They have $11.9 million in cap space, obviously. Hot start right now. We'll see if it holds up. Where do you think he'd fit in? Who do you think he'd fit in with? Well, like some pairings.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: There's a bunch. I mean you could put him with, frankly. Put him with anybody in the league. We've seen it over the years. Put him with anybody and he's going to put up points and he's going to make them put up points. I'm pretty sure he made Brian Russ like a 25 goal score like seven or eight years back. Yeah, that guy's nobody.
Pascal Dupuy back in the day. Obviously there's a much younger Sid.
Kyle Connor would come to mind. That guy can shoot the puck. Yeah, he'd probably. The one thing about the jets is he'd probably have to move off. Somebody would have to move off to the wing.
You probably want Sid in the middle of the ice because he's smart and he's very, very good at face offs. He's good defense. Sydney Crosby and he's Sidney Crosby. Yeah, but like you do have a little bit of a backlog of centers there. You're not going to put Sid on the third line. I don't think you're going to put. I think Ealers is center too. You're not putting him on the third line.
But it's going to help bolster Gore goal scoring in the playoffs. You know, seems like they can't figure out how to keep the puck out of the net in the playoffs. It's been that way for the last while. I mean look at last season. Connor Hellbuck stood on his head all regular season and gassed out in the playoffs letting five goals every game. Yeah. Or more.
You might as well score as many goals you can, right?
[00:35:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:46] Speaker B: Why not spend that money getting some more forwards, some more powerhouse players. Guys that are going to put up points. Guys are going to put up points in the playoffs, like.
Yeah, I think that'd be a cool fit. That'd be. That'd be cool to see Crosby go back to Canada and I don't think any other teams really make sense up north.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: No. Maple's would be interesting, but it's not going to work. Yeah, Canadians would be cool, but I don't.
That'd be kind of a cool team. But they're not, they're not. They're not good enough for him right now.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: They're currently second worst team in the league.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah. They did just go on a six game Losing streak.
So once they're back up to. No, I don't think they're a six game losing in a row team. They won tonight.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: No, I think they'll be. They'd be fine, but I don't think. I still don't think they're good enough for him, but who I do want him to play with. So we talked about earlier, the Colorado avalanche, they have 5 million around $5 million of cap space.
Obviously some pieces would have to be moved. But just like in any trade, you're gonna. You're not gonna get Sid for free. You have to give up draft picks.
Why didn't we didn't look at this one. The next team that we have, we looked pretty in depth and have a mock trade for him.
Might be a little wild, but it'd be funny. But the avalanche, like Nathan McKinnon and Sid are like best friends. And to watch them play together, which I guess they wouldn't really play together because they're both centers play power play together. But I think Avalanche would be so cool to watch him play with McKinnon also. I mean the Avalanche of the Avalanche and could benefit from him.
But will it happen? Probably not.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: Listen, hear me out. Like we were talking about earlier, big Val Nashooshkins coming back. Right. But can you really trust that guy to play?
He's clearly got some issues and I hopefully he worked them out, but this is two seasons in a row where he's been held out of the playoffs at the most crucial time of year with on good Avalanche teams. Right. But that's a huge piece that you're missing when he's out of the lineup. And him being a younger guy, don't know if they're going to want to get rid of him if they decide that they think he can stay in the lineup. Yeah, I don't think they'll get rid of him. But if they decide that, hey, this guy is trouble, we need him out of the locker room. He's getting everybody on the snow ship in Sidney Crosby ship out in the Shushkin. They need a younger team over there in Pittsburgh. Physicality, some reason to watch, you know, Pittsburgh Penguins hockey.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:28] Speaker B: Might be a good idea. Bulldozer in front of net.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that is true. I think. Yeah. The Avalanche would just be kind of a wagon. They have Sid too. I mean, they already are. They're just like we said earlier, I think they just had a rough start.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: But they also don't have a goalie.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that is true.
[00:38:49] Speaker B: They're playing. I Forget the guy's first name, Anunan. He's on my fantasy team right now. Because Yorgiev is awful. Yeah. And he hasn't been much better.
[00:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah, but no, I mean, that's the, The. Oh, hello. I just had a big stutter. The shitty part about, like, any of these trades is like, nothing's guaranteed. Like, Stanley Cup's so tough to win. And like, clearly we can see that with, you know, all these trades that are happening and hockey's tough to make the playoffs. To win the Stanley cup, you gotta stay healthy, completely healthy, and be able to battle and have a hot, hot goaltender, which the Sharks have two right now. I will say, but dude, we'll get into that later.
You guys didn't watch last week. Me and Alan are gonna go on a Shark's rant at the end of each episode just to save.
[00:39:45] Speaker B: You guys.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: Don't want to hear it. You can click off.
It'll be at the end. I'll let you know before we do it, but I got a little excited there.
Next team, though, the Washington Capitals trade for Sidney Crosby. Allen, give us a scenario.
[00:40:01] Speaker B: Okay, so listen, hear me out, right? This is get. This is going to take some hearing out. The Washington Capitals are currently a good team, right? This is weird because the Washington Capitals, they made the playoffs last year. I think objectively they were terrible. And they got bounced in the first round by New York, New York Rangers, as they should have, right? But they're hot right now, right now. Picture this. You have Dylan Strom, who we just were talking about a little bit earlier in the episode. He's playing really well, right? He has 23 points in. What were you talking about, 15, 16 games? Something like that.
Which is by far. It's an outlier in his. In his resume. So far he's been playing well above what he's done previously.
If he drops off, they have no other per. They have no other player that's even feasibly close to a first line center role. Right?
[00:40:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: Nobody else to play with Alex Ovechkin.
What more perfect circle of a story that didn't make any sense? How much better of a story could you possibly create?
OV to the Capitals. Pld Going back. Couple going back, huh?
[00:41:14] Speaker A: You just messed that up. You just said ov.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
All right, all right, we'll cut this out here. Sid to the Capitals. Pld going back. A couple draft picks going back as well. Get Sydney Crosby playing with Alex Ovechkin.
That's my, that's my take.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: He Helps Sidney Crosby is the one to help Ovechkin break Gretzky's record.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Imagine.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Imagine the greatest. The greatest rivalry in the most recent years of hockey.
Sid and OVI now team up.
And that would be crazy.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: Sid is also pretty close to 600 goals.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Is that like five some.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah, he's close to 600 gold. Is that like 500 something? Let me look it up here real quick.
[00:42:08] Speaker A: Could we see 8, 30, whatever, or.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: No, 9, 93 and 600 goals?
[00:42:20] Speaker A: It would be a beautiful ending to a crazy rivalry to show, you know, to show the world to love thy neighbor, you know? Okay, so you remember I said, in this world.
[00:42:33] Speaker B: Remember how I said, Imagine Ovi assisting on a Crosby 600th goal? Along those lines, that trade would have to happen pretty quickly because he's at 598 right now. But it's still possible. It could.
[00:42:47] Speaker A: It could happen tomorrow. And if this trade happens tomorrow and then this episode drops on Wednesday, we're screwed. Because we're going to look like a bunch of losers or phonies that we're pretending to call this, but we are people.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: I think people are already going to make fun of me for saying that PLD is going to be a part of a Crosby trade. But to make that work, cap wise, you know.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: The Penguins got to take some kind of hit, right?
[00:43:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
I mean, you're not going to give up at this point in his career. You're not going to get an amazing return. You saw what the Sharks got for Eric Carlson and, you know, good thing we have a great GM and.
Exactly. And didn't turn out until we realized, yeah, so could be a thing. Could not be a thing. Probably won't be a thing. But, you know, I still think Sid needs to get out of Pittsburgh. I think that's still the main point here. And I don't. I don't think there's really any team that couldn't benefit from them.
But that'd be interesting. If Sid was wearing another jersey at the end of the season, I would.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: Be flabbergasted, but I'd be pumped.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: I would be, too. It'd be kind of sick.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: But anyways, I think be pretty cool. See an 87 past 8 for a 1 timer, right?
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: On like the Philadelphia Flyers or someone like that.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, on the Flyers. That'd be perfect.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: I'm all for that. I'm not. Because they just beat the Sharks, so.
[00:44:16] Speaker A: That'S going to get us into the Sharks. Rant. If you're listening to this Point. Don't want to hear us talk delusional about the Sharks. You can click off. Thanks for listening. Watch us. Follow us on Instagram. But loser. You're a loser. And I know you want to hear us talk about the Sharks, because we're gonna do it right now.
The last week, the Sharks have been honestly a fun team to watch. Like the beginning of the season, obviously, we had some hiccups. Macklin Celebrini is clearly a big help to this offense.
Maybe not a huge help, but he's at least a factor.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: He. I was watching the game today.
This is the game against the Philadelphia Flyers. Now, he did not put up a point, but half of the Sharks offense was driven through him and Mikhail Granlin specifically. Like they're getting opportunities specifically off of Macklin Celebrini being Macklin Celebrini.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: And I think that's awesome.
[00:45:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not one of those things where he's getting stats and he's still young kids, 18 years old and doing what he's doing. Scored two goals the other night on Saturday, something like that. No, Friday, I don't know. But scored two goals that night and had an amazing, amazing night tonight. The game I watched last night and tonight, last night's game was kind of funny, honestly. Like, I truly think that, you know, against the Devils, Timo Meyer was the one that scored, which is hilarious.
And then Mackenzie Blackwood also stood on his head. Former New Jersey Devil. That guy had a 44 save shutout. He was a brick wall. And the Devils just couldn't get any offense.
And honestly, neither could the Sharks, really. I don't think we had a great offensive game, but we looked. We. The Sharks, I will say, looked a lot better defensively on Sunday.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that game to me seemed like kind of a big middle finger to the Devils.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:46:20] Speaker B: It was like they gave up on him. He's McKin. McKenzie Blackwood is still a very young goalie. Right? It's. Yeah, what, 26 in the goalie scheme of things, that's still really young. Right. And they gave up on him, I think, a little bit early. I've. I've been a fan of Mackenzie Blackwood for years now, ever since his. They get a 9:18 in his rookie season or something crazy like that.
It seemed like a big middle finger, like I'm better than Jacob Markstrom. Yeah, you suck.
That's how I interpreted it. I'm imagining.
[00:46:59] Speaker A: I don't think Jacob Marks and played that night.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: Yeah, Jake Allen played that night, I think. But yeah, but he is better than Jake. Yeah.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Actually, no, he did.
Yeah. I mean, there's just. I honestly am watching Maclin Celebrini and I'm just in awe, like I will say the beginning of the season.
It's not that I didn't have high hopes for Mac and Celebrity, because I did. But you know, obviously coming after these number one overall pick after Connor Bedard, that is a lot, a lot of hype to follow up on. Now, the year before that for Connor Bedard was Slafkovsky and I will give him his flowers. He's performed well this year and kind of found himself last year later in the season.
But I was a little un underwhelmed by Macklin celebrating. At first I thought Will Smith was going to be the star coming out this season, but I think it's the complete opposite. I think Will Smith's played fine again. He's 19 years old.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: These guys are literally. Kids should be in their freshman or sophomore year of college.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: They can't even buy a beer yet.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Nope. They have to wait. They have to wait like two years.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: In the United States, they can't even purchase Zins, which is crazy too.
Yeah.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: How they deal with that.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: They're probably not because their bodies are temples compared to our bodies. But, you know, I. Yeah, but anyways, what I was saying is he's got this like Nathan McKinnon esque vibe. Like, I don't just the way he skates. He does that fast, like crossovers through the middle of the ice.
[00:48:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: And he's a great playmaker and he has got a hell of a shot as well, which I did not realize how much of a shot he had on him.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: I think we're gonna start seeing here as he gets more comfortable. And again, this might be just diluted. I'm a Sharks fan, so I'm gonna say great things. Better. You know, first overall draft pick, always.
He is a night or an 18 year old and he's playing 19 minutes a night. His time on average or time on ice average is 19 minutes and seven seconds.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:49:20] Speaker B: He played 22 minutes and 50 seconds. Obviously that's skewed by overtime. And he was on the power play for the full two minutes in overtime tonight. That's a lot of responsibility for an 18 year old on an NHL team. It is basically Ryan Warsofsky basically gave him the reins, said, here you go, go have fun.
And that's a lot of kind of pressure for an 18 year old. They're giving him. I mean, first line minutes. He's playing Damn near what McDavid was playing before he got injured.
It's been very cool to see because he looks like he's settled. He looks like he's, like, comfortable now. Whereas even a couple games where he has scored, you could still tell he wasn't, like, the most comfortable player. But, like, he's taking the puck up the ice, trying to split the D, and It's like you're 18 years old and you have the confidence to do that. That's crazy. That looked like young Nathan McKinnon, I remember, had a goal that was against the Minnesota Wild in. It was like the 2014 playoffs.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: He ended up. I think it was a game winner in overtime. And skates the puck up the ice through two. Through two defensemen, splits the defenseman and absolutely rips one home. And it does kind of remind me of that. Like, there were probably four or five plays tonight where he just was like, all right, I'm doing this myself.
[00:50:47] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, he does that a lot, especially on the power play, too. I noticed they. He does that looping that McDavid and McKinnon both do, where they kind of just trail back and skate with the puck up the ice. And he's. I mean, he's a great playmaker and stays on the puck. I thought Will Smith actually played great tonight, too. He had a lot of four checking.
There's a couple plays on the four check where I was like, okay, I like that.
I think Will Smith also needs to play with some better players, to be honest.
[00:51:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:20] Speaker A: I think, obviously, celebrities on line one.
[00:51:24] Speaker B: They had with Alex Wenberg and I think Barkley Goodrow.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, they did.
[00:51:31] Speaker B: Which I love Barclay Goodro as a Sharks fan, even though he didn't want to come back to San Jose.
I have great memories. Yeah.
Specifically the 2019 playoff run and one specific goal. I remember. But I love that guy. But, yeah, he's not the guy you put, you know, fourth overall pick from two years ago on the line. On the line with. When you're trying to get him to get. Gain confidence, like, yeah, that's just not a guy who's gonna win the puck to a young guy and get him the space and get open for him to actually make plays like he's capable of. Yeah, you put him on a line with, you know, Tyler Tofoli, someone like that, Mikhail Granlin, switch him in and out with. With Macklin, Celebrini, do whatever you got to do. Put him With Eklund.
[00:52:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:22] Speaker B: And I think a little more skill.
[00:52:26] Speaker A: Not that Martha Goodrow. He's more of like a grittier guy. I want some people that can shoot the puck because Will Smith will find you. But it's tough because there's a couple passes tonight where there's just no one in position.
But I think it's interesting. Warsofsky's said that Celebrini and Will Smith both have a plan for their development. Will Smith sits out, I would say every other game, if not every two games. He'll sit a game out more recently, but we'll see. Macklin has not sat a game out as a healthy scratch. It's only been injures, injuries. So we'll see these next couple games.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: For five games.
[00:53:06] Speaker A: Exactly. But it's not been a lot.
[00:53:08] Speaker B: But Will Smith played the last four games.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And he's. He's had point. Like he had points his first night back and then two goals. So it's hard to like, really sit him.
But they said. What was it? I think Will Smith, when he sits out, he is told to sit and watch one player on the ice the entire game. Last game last night against the Devils, he watched Jack Hughes.
So I think it's interesting, just this development plan they have for these guys.
Barracuda is lighting it up, which is good to see. We'll see if any of those players kind of make the jump in the next couple months.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: I don't think Ask Rob has played a game since we had that conversation last week, but he's still gross.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: I'd like to see him play soon. Do you have a skater that you'd like to see jump up soon?
[00:53:59] Speaker B: There isn't anyone in particular on the Barracuda. I'm like, super, super pumped for right now. Yeah, I was really pumped for Daniel Guin a couple years ago that I. He's in the same situation where I don't think they're playing him in the right situations. Yeah.
But either way, it's like there are a ton of guys down there that I'd be pretty pumped to see. Let's check out their roster real quick.
[00:54:25] Speaker A: I'm interested in, like, doing a research.
[00:54:27] Speaker B: On the Barracuda before this episode.
[00:54:29] Speaker A: It's okay. I don't really the first one that kind of comes to my head.
Maybe Philip? No.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: Interesting Colin graph. I forgot about him.
[00:54:40] Speaker A: I just don't think he's quite ready yet.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: He has 14 points in 11 games on Barracuda. Luca Cagnoni has 11 points, 11 games as defenseman.
[00:54:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Philip Bystad has played nine games. He has seven points.
Just looking down the roster here, there's like Casper Haltunan has six point or six games played, four points. That's a guy I'm actually pretty excited for. Yes, he. Him.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: Dickinson's also lighting up the league down in the.
[00:55:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:55:15] Speaker A: Where's he at? Oh, he's in the.
[00:55:17] Speaker B: Oh, he's playing for the London Knights. He had that nasty goal a couple nights ago. You sent me a video. I was like, what on earth? That's gross.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah, so, I mean, start wrapping up soon, but yeah, I think that the Sharks this season, all, like, we've talked about this. All we want to see is development from these players celebrating. Looks like he's getting more comfortable. Smith looks like he's getting more comfortable. And any other rookie that joins Jack Thompson, I like him. Henry Thrun, I really like him as well. He's a smart hockey player from what I've seen. He's got that Harvard sense in him.
He's making some bank passes where I was like, I remember when I was a kid and playing hockey and people were like, you have to be smart to play hockey. And I was kind of rotted off. But there's some truth to that with just the angles and obviously, like, hockey sense is one thing, but some of his passes, I'm like, okay, the Sedans.
[00:56:17] Speaker B: Made a living off that. Yeah, those crazy passes all the way up ice and. Yeah, so there's that one. I think they were playing the brewing. No, they're playing the Red Wings, I think. Shot it all the way down off the corner. And Henrik Sedin shot all the way down out the corner. Daniel snuck in around.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that possible last year.
[00:56:36] Speaker B: Gross stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Like the possible in the playoffs. Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:56:43] Speaker A: That was beautiful.
[00:56:43] Speaker B: Henry, just to touch on him a little bit more, he's got five points this season, five assists, zero goals. But four of his five assists are in the last three games. And given Philadelphia is not good. He had. He put up an assist against them.
He had two assists against Minnesota, who is still a very good team, even though I do think they're going to fall off at some point. They're still 10, 2 and 3 as of the recording of this episode. And he had an assist against New Jersey and was a plus one. Obviously no goals against, but. And that's against one of the best teams in NHL. I believe they're currently like, fifth. Yeah. In the overall standing. So that guy, I think is going to be legit.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: I'm pretty excited for. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a little bit, but I liked what I saw out of him last season. Obviously, he was.
It was a rookie playing on the worst team in the NHL, so you're not going to expect that much out of him. But he looked all right. He looked comfortable sometimes. Didn't look as comfortable other times, but that's what you expect.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: Also, Timothy will grin, however you say his name.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Lil Ugren, I believe.
[00:58:01] Speaker A: He's nasty. I like him a lot. Yeah, he's a great offensive defenseman for us. We've kind of talked about that. We kind of need that. Someone to run anything through.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:13] Speaker A: On the point. And he's. He's doing really well playing on the power play, too, with them.
[00:58:17] Speaker B: You're saying you don't want Mario Ferraro on the power play?
[00:58:21] Speaker A: Not necessarily. I. I love Mario, but I don't.
They just. It's one of those things where it's like, we could use just a little bit more.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: There was a couple years ago, me and. Me and my roommate used to. Used to joke about they had. The Sharks have Mario Ferrari and Redeem Chimek, and at the time, Mario Ferraro looks a lot more comfortable this year. I think it's because there's some actual hockey players that are also playing with them, rather than a bunch of janitors and plumbers and, you know.
[00:58:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:54] Speaker B: Retired UFC fighters, stuff like that. Right. Where they don't have anybody who actually has any talent. They actually have some season. Yeah.
Him and Radim Shimak was the most, like, frantic defensive pairing I've ever seen. They were like. Neither of them looked like they ever wanted the puck. Yeah. Immediately pass away from each other, and it's like, you take it.
[00:59:18] Speaker A: I don't want it. I don't want it. Yeah.
[00:59:21] Speaker B: That's so funny.
[00:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah. That's how I play sometimes. I'm scared.
[00:59:25] Speaker B: No, you're better than that.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: No, I know, but I still play like that. I'll be like, gavin, take the puck. And I'm like, why did I do that? But it happened. Oh, my God. Last game.
Oh, I felt so bad on this because I think you got scored on. But I was in the corner and these two dudes, like, start pinching on or. No. Skating up the red line. I could have dumped it down, but I decided to be a fancy pants and pass it behind my back. No, look to Gavin, who I thought was closer to me than. I was just a straight, juicy puck right in the middle of the. The Blue line. And they took it. Breakaway scored. And I came up to you, I'm like, dude.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: That was like five seconds left. No, that was the week before that. Yeah, I forgot when that was.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: We were up a lot, but I was getting cocky and I was like, okay, we need to. We need to lock in here because we need to be.
[01:00:14] Speaker B: It's fine. I forgive you.
[01:00:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Thank you. But thank you, guys, everyone listening. If you made it to this point. Appreciate you go to our website right now. You got a. You go buy us a hoodie. Or not a hoodie, but crew neck sweater right now. Since it's cold out. Use code GOP15. You get 15 off all caps. Gohp. Good old hockey podcast. We also got some cool hockey shirts on there. We got a Will Smith Maclin Celebrini shirt.
[01:00:40] Speaker B: I should have worn that shirt. I don't know why I didn't.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: Next episode. Well, we'll plug it a little bit more. But yeah, that's out on the website. If you're at this point, it's probably because you're a Sharks fan. So go buy that shirt right now.
Use code GOHP15, 20 or 15 off your order. And other than that, we've got some good hockey coming up.
Season is getting rolling along now. Alan, you feel like you're a lot more comfortable sitting in the seat. He's got a new setup, too. Not in his living room anymore. Slowly but surely, it'll come together now. We're not going to see it. We won't see it, but it's coming together right now.
I wasn't going to mention that. But you did.
But Alan, I will see you tomorrow. Our game and everyone listening. We'll see you guys next week. Peace.
[01:01:31] Speaker B: Peace.
