Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:10] Speaker B: Everybody. Welcome back to the good old hockey podcast. This is episode number 5454. We are here talking hockey. We've got some interesting news. Not just NHL today. We are a man of the people. We're going to be talking about the PWHL for a little bit in one of these segments, but we also got some good news in terms of just some drama. We got Cutter Gaultier making his return back to Philadelphia.
Got some new outdoor games scheduled for next season.
NHL didn't listen to us because there's a certain matchup that I think would have been perfect down in Miami, but we'll get to there.
But first things first. Alan and I last week, last Tuesday to be exact, had the greatest game of beer league I think I've ever played.
Alan, I think from what you were saying, how you felt, you haven't felt like that in a long time. Yeah, it was overall great, great game, great experience. Boys are buzzing. We had a two week break for Christmas, so we didn't get to play for two weeks.
And I was kind of expecting to come back and be stuck in air, but we were rolling 5D and I was fine and I played really confident and I felt almost scored. I hit the crossbar.
Really depressing. But Alan, take the floor because you had a Askarov like play.
You're playing like Askarov last week.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: That was a. That was a pretty damn gross game by me. I think at least on your head. Took a 4 to 1 win.
I think we did like slightly out shoot the other team, but I toe dragged a guy in net.
That was pretty cool. Gave the away right after, but I toe dragged you guys, so I don't really care. I think I was just, I was so in shock that I pulled it off. I was like, oh, what do I do now?
[00:02:14] Speaker B: I've never gotten this far.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: Passing straight to the other team's defenseman. I think they got a shot on Ned. I got back in, but yeah, it was a great time.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, we talked about it. The only reason why was because you didn't get enough lift on the puck. That's the only reason why. If you would have had lift on it. I think there was someone cutting up could had a gross, gross breakaway.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: It was the captain. Victor was, was skating up the wing and I like hesitated too much and I like went to shoot it and then I was like, wait, no, I can't, I gotta do it anyways. And then I just kind of, yeah, passed it to the other team, but it ended up Working out. Yeah. It was a fun game.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: That was a fun game. You played amazing. And there were some points where I was like, I just, like, it's just like back and forth. And I was like, they're gonna score, like right now. And then you would just come up with an amazing save. And I was like, okay, well, like, there was one. Alan, like, scoops it behind his back right on the red line. It was one of those plays that I think every goalie dreams of, but he just reaches back and scoops it. Comes right out into the middle of the crease. I see it right in front of me. And I just flung it down the ice because I was just scared. It was just right there.
But overall, great game. Had so much great game.
Yeah. And outside of that week was, you know, pretty mellow. Wasn't anything crazy. You wait. Not for you, though.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: My. My weekend was great.
Work sent us to a little known place called Jackpot Nevada.
He gave us some money on the bus to gamble with.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Which if you guys don't know, you probably don't know. Jackpot Nevada is right on the border of Idaho and Nevada, and it's about three hours away from us. So.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Full fledged. Well, full fledged foolish casino.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: So there. There are. I think I counted six buildings in that town, right.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: And three of them are casinos. One of them used to be a casino. Yep.
At one point in the night, I was down about 500 bucks.
So I retired to my room defeated. Woke up in the morning, I was like, nah, you know what? I ain't leaving like that. Pulled out 60 bucks, stuck it in a blackjack machine, and like four minutes later, I was up to like 700.
Cashed out, won a little bit more money. So we ended the trip up about 400 bucks, which I was pretty happy with, being that I was down 500 bucks night before.
Yeah, that was a good time. It was a good time.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: Even if. If you were down.
If you were. Did you say you. You were down 500 if you walked out of there, like, even. I would have called that a great day. But the fact.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Is like, this is a great time.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I was sitting there.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: I think I'm gonna chase that feeling now.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: So I was sitting there in bed. Right. Woke up that morning, I was like, I just lost 500 bucks.
I'm either gonna get even or get even worse. I ended up getting even and even better.
That's funny.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: That's all you have. Yeah, yeah.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: Free vacation for a day. So I don't mind that.
[00:05:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that too.
Yeah. I. I think you learn why gambling can be so addictive.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I'm going back to a casino for a while.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Once you, like, there's been moments where I have those.
I've had a couple of those stories where you're down a lot, then you come back and you're like, whoa, I could have been in a really bad spot if I. Super lucky, so I'm gonna cool it. Yeah. But it was really fun.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: Quick side story. So I got my jet. One of my general sales managers was. Was walking around the floor is. The morning after. I had just won. Like, I think I was. I was up from the night before. Like, 900 bucks at that point. Right. So I'm buzzing. I walk up to him, I'm like, listen, Brian, I found an infinite money glitch. So here's what you do. You take 20 bucks, you stick in the blackjack machine, you play for four minutes, and you cash out and you win 150, right? And he goes, I don't believe you. I'm like, here, come here. Show me. I'll show you. I put 20 bucks, the machine cashed out at $147 after, like, two minutes gameplay. And I then proceeded to lose that the next 10 minutes. But either way, he believed me. I was like, dude, I'm telling you, it works every time. It's infinite money. It's free. Yeah. So, yeah. By the way.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gamble responsibly. Anyone listening? We're not advocating to gamble with what you're comfortable to lose is what I always say.
And if you lose that, take out your money.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: 20 bucks, put it in. Put in the blackjack machine.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Play for three minutes, and you're golden.
[00:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Also, if any of you have iccu, ICCU only has one. Well, not one, but if you go over your overdrafts, it's only a 25 charge. So you take out 500 again. As long as you make 525, you're even.
[00:07:41] Speaker A: So money, money right there.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Infinite money glitch.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: That's great advice.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: Please, anyone, do not gamble responsibly. Please, please, please, please, gamble responsible.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: There's no infinite money glitches.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: No. You're kidding. This is all I got.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Very luck.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah, but enough about gambling. I mean, we could go a whole podcast about gambling, but we won't for the sake of my bank account.
But we have. We've been doing this pretty much every week, except for when he's hurt. We got an OB check in. Scored another goal this week. So he is what, 22? All the way.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: 22, I think, right. As of right now.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: There's an interesting stat, Allen, that you texted me, and I want you to share it with everyone listening what that stat is.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: So the. The Washington Commanders. Any of you guys watch football? I'm sure a lot of you guys do.
A lot of the 17 people watch this podcast. The Washington Commanders beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the other night.
This was last night, I believe, correct? Last night or two nights ago? Yes, yes, that was last night. They beat the Washington Commanders in overtime. Yeah. Washington Commanders beat the Bucks in overtime. That was their first playoff victory since they beat the Washington or since they beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2006.
Oh, Alexander Ovechkin has scored 848 goals since that day. So he was at 20. He was 25 goals into his rookie season.
The last time Washington Commanders won a playoff Gamer, it was the Redskins at that point in time. That was kind of a word. Do you want to restart this?
[00:09:32] Speaker B: No, that was good. Yeah.
Basically, this is what was read. 848 goals for Ovechkin in between the Commanders two playoff wins. Did a very long winded way of explaining that, but Jesus. Yes, this is the last time the Commanders won a playoff game. Till now. Alex Ovechkin scored 848 goals, which is.
I don't know if it's more. More impressive, the drought for Washington or Obi. I mean, I think it's Obi, clearly. Yeah.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Score 850 goals in 19 years.
Yeah, that's pretty nuts.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: And then to not win a playoff game and. Yeah, I would probably not want to be alive if I was a Commanders fan. And if you are, you probably. They hate us for talking about or even just mentioning that, but had to.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: Be still in the playoffs this year.
[00:10:25] Speaker B: They are. They have a good team.
Daniels is a monster.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: Gonna be nasty for 15 years.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Exactly. You've got a lot to be happy about. But the other topic at hand, Cutter Gaultier makes his return to Philadelphia. For those of you that don't know, I feel like most of you do, but Cutter Gaultier was drafted by the Philadelphia Flyers, and around this point last year, he not even like demanded a trade, but more of just would not talk to the Flyers at all and like, basically kind of insinuated that he wasn't going to sign with them.
Now, I'm sure there's a lot of backstage stuff that we don't know about.
I don't know Everything we only do have speculation or just stuff that's been released.
But yeah, he said that he did not want to apply play for them.
His agent mentioned that there was discussion due to a private issue between Gautier, his family and the organization, which they kept. They chose to keep confidential.
That was then leaked out into the public. There was some other stuff, too. I mean, the way the Philly media handled it too, was not the. The greatest.
But regardless, Philly fans were not happy to see him, which I do not blame them at all. Regardless of what happened on the interior, to be a like 19.
Yeah, 19 year old and just being like, I don't want to play for you. You haven't even played an NHL game yet. It's just kind of nuts. Yeah.
So the fans let him hear it and it got loud. There's plenty of videos you can look up.
One of the chants they started yelling was Jamie's better because the Ducks traded Jamie Drysdale for Cutter.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: Gautier so scored the first goal that game too.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: That too. And Cutter just added. Yeah, Cutter had zero points too. So he didn't score a single goal.
But the next night, what did he do?
[00:12:30] Speaker A: He put up. He put up two points, including the OT winner against Carolina.
Then had a.
It was an interesting. I don't know if you saw that clip, but it was an interesting Celly after that.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Yeah. What did he do?
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Went down on one knee. But it was like. It was just kind of strange how he did it.
I saw a bunch of tweets and posts and stuff about how he played. He showed up on the wrong night. He circled the wrong date on the calendar because he said something about that early in the season. I just thought that was funny. Yeah, that is funny. Hilarious.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: They are. I mean, I feel like. I mean, I don't even know. I can't imagine what it would be like to play in a situation like that, but to have the entire arena and they booed him like the minute he stepped onto the ice for his first shift. Even in warm ups. Like, he walked out in warm ups. And I think also the minute his foot touched that ice, the entire arena is just booing him, which that's how Philly fans are. You guys are crazy. I respect it. Just like you are for football, basketball, everything. Y'all are crazy. And I respect that because I do. You know, I like a little bit of a crazy fan base. I kind of wish the.
The Sharks were a little more die hard, but they can be. But it's not like Philly. Nothing like it.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Nothing's like, Philly sports fans.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. The city of brotherly love.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: I got a. I've had a bunch of co workers over the years that are Philly fans. And like, I've had co workers where you find out what teams they watch like, you know, a year after you meet them.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Everyone I've met that is a Philly, like an Eagles fan, Flyers fan, anything like that, you know instantly you are told immediately.
[00:14:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:27] Speaker A: And it's pretty funny. They wear their jerseys, they rep their city, which is awesome. But yeah, honestly, I respect the booze out of Philly.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:37] Speaker A: Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm a Sharks fan.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: I don't like the Ducks, but, yeah, that's my thing. Yeah.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: I respect the booze out of Philly.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: I do. I really do. So good for them, Cutter. It's gonna be a long career there. Luckily, they only play them twice.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Twice a year.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: Twice a year. And they're only one in Philly, so. Yeah, not gonna. Haven't happen too often, but maybe we'll get like a play. Stanley cup final game series against those two would be crazy.
But I don't see either those team making the finals anytime soon. So I, I there. I would say they're gonna forget it, but they're not going to forget it.
But moving on to the pwhl, for you ladies listening out there, we're talking about the pwhl.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: All two of them.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: My mom and your mom.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. Hey, guys. So pwhl, we haven't actually, I don't think ever had a dis. I think me and Galley may have early when it first started, but this season we have not talked about it at all. But it is definitely worth talking about. These girls can play puck.
These girls are fantastic.
I've. You know, people that have said things to me are asked about it, they kind of just assume it's on the WNBA level.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Which I will say. Those girls cannot ball.
They'd kick my ass in a game. I know. Alan, you might not believe that.
[00:16:05] Speaker A: No, they wouldn't. We've had conversations. All right.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: I know.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Quick hot take here. Quick hot take. Clip this. Put this on the Internet. I'm sure I'll get some hate now. I quit playing basketball when I was 12. Right.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: I played all throughout elementary and middle school. Right. I was always good because I got my gross bird early. I was like, I think I was 12 years old. I was like 6 foot 2, right. And I was really skinny, but I was like, okay, at basketball up until that point, I was pretty good for that age, but, like, I was okay fundamentally at basketball. I stopped playing because everybody else started catching up at height. Right. And when I couldn't, when I had trouble rebounding the balls, like, there's no point me playing this anymore.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: I'm still convinced that our friend group here could probably beat a Division 1 NCAA women's basketball school in a game to, like, 21, I think. I think the lungs would start to catch up after a while, but I think in a shorter game, were probably balling on him.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: I disagree.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: 1V1. I'm beating most of them. I don't care.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. I mean, I'm not. As long as I'm not in that starting lineup and maybe some basketball players.
But regardless, the message is, the PWHL is awesome.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: No, these girls are sick.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah, they are. But there was some record attendance that was set in Denver, which does not have a team yet. There was 14,018 individuals at Ball arena in Denver, where the Avalanche play. It was the Montreal Victori and the Minnesota Frost. The frost won 4 to 2.
And there's a lot of stuff on the Internet or some videos of the game, and the fans were chanting, we want a team. So there's a definite want for it.
I've personally never watched a game live, but I've seen a bunch of, like, recaps, highlights, all that stuff. And those girls are awesome at what they do. So, Yeah, I mean, to. It's probably not a sellout, but it's definitely. What was it? Record attendance in the US so it.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: Was record attendance in the US so they sold 14,018 tickets in Denver, which I've actually. I've been to. Ballerina. I watched an Avalanche game there last year.
That game, by the way, sucked. Avalanche got shut out. I think it was seven nothing by the Jets. All I wanted to hear is the ABs. Goal horn because of the goal horn. Sick. I also want to see McKinnon McCargo off, but.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Nope, got shut out. Seven nothing. It was a blowout. Wasn't even fun. But that's damn near full at that arena. I want to say their arena seats, like, 18 or 19,000.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: So I just looked at a stat, which is actually kind of crazy.
I think most hockey fans are familiar with, you know, the NHL, the ahl, and then the ECHL being the third tier of American pro hockey.
The PWHL is currently out selling the ECHL by a good bit. Fit.
Average attendance in the ECHL There are three teams that are above the league's average attendance for the PWHL this year.
The rest of the whatever, 20 something teams sell way less, including teams like the Iowa Heartlanders and Wheeling Nailers, who last season sold an average of 2,300 tickets a game.
So the PWHL selling out 7,000 tickets minimum a game is kind of crazy.
14, 000 seats in Denver. That's pretty awesome. They're chanting, we want a team. We want a team.
Yeah, we want a team. It's pretty cool. Good to see. I think it's great to see for just the growth of the sport. Yeah.
You don't really see. Before the PWHL came around, I couldn't even tell you what the professional women's league was called.
I really don't know. But I think women's sports in general are growing. The National Women's Soccer League is getting pretty big. Yeah. We actually know somebody who plays in that league. Shout out, Naomi Girma. You're nasty at soccer. Yeah, yeah. She was one of the best players in the US Women's team, which is unreal. I raised that girl in like the second grade and I beat her in a foot race. So.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: I would.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: I did an achievement right there.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah. That's hilarious.
[00:20:54] Speaker A: Pretty cool to see.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: No, it is. I didn't know about that echl. I mean, it makes sense because, I mean, what does Idaho steelheads probably sell? What, 7,000?
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Not even it. The Steelheads are a small arena. Is that the arena only seats like 4, 500 people? Okay. Yeah, the Steel Heads.
Let's see here. This is 23, 24, so this last season, but they average 5,100 seats. 5,200 almost.
So the average PWHL game is outselling the steel heads by 2,000 seats, which I think is crazy. Yeah, yeah. Pretty good. Pretty awesome. I think it's pretty cool for women. Women's. Women's sports in general.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: There's some other news that came out of the PWHL this week, so I believe it was last night. The New York Sirens played a game against the Toronto Scepters.
I believe they won one. Nothing in overtime. Riveting gameplay and Jesse all. Jesse Eldridge, pardon me, scored the game winning goal in overtime.
However, upon replay, she was at least a foot offside, two feet offsides.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: Which.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: Is interesting because there's no video replay for offsides in the pwhl. And I've been seeing some stuff on Twitter how people who are watching the PWHL pretty religiously talking about how they want offsides reviews.
I know your opinion on this. Let's hear it.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: I think that offside reviews are completely stupid. I think that it's one of those, like, you can't review penalties.
You can review for the severity of the call in terms of like ejection, stuff like that, but you can't go back and look. It's one of those things where it's like, if you miss off sides as a linesman, then you're not a good ref. Like, I know it's a very fast game and like, things happen.
It's not an easy thing to call, but that's like an umpire missing a strike when it's like, that's what makes the game fun. Like, if it's perfect, I'm just like, I don't care. Yeah. Especially when it gets waved off because of a goal. Because they're not going to go back for a random play when the play stops to be like, oh, yep, offside. But they call it and then they review it. Like, say they call a goal and they're like, oh, no challenge for offsides.
I think that's just really stupid. And if you were to do that for like, I get it in the sense of.
I get it in the sense of the fact that you don't want to call off sides or like, refs maybe let the play go on and can look at it later. But that's just a lazy way of doing it. Like, yeah, either call it or don't call it offside, don't go back 30 seconds, 40 seconds and call an offside. I. It's just stupid. Get rid of it.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: I think so. First of all, we're gonna get, if you clip this and put it on tick tock, we're gonna get a bunch of just rule nerds who are like, oh, it's outside. Stop sides, I don't care. Right. But I think it does one thing which is a big negative for the game. It slows the game down, like, exponentially. We've had, I mean, I think goal reviews make a little bit more sense. But when you have goal Reviews that take 5, 10 minutes, right? Or you have offside reviews that take that long, it just slows the game down so much. Right. And then if you really think about an offsides play, right, the, the point of offsides is so people aren't cherry picking. You don't just have a guy in the offensive zone at all times, right?
[00:24:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: That's standing there for a breakaway on the goalie. If you have to slow a clip down to a frame by frame section. Right. And look at it. Ultra zoomed in.
Did it really affect the play?
No.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: No.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: And that's like, like there you get the occasional goal where, you know, you're a foot two feet off sides. Right. Like there was that Matt Duchenne goal a few years back where he was like at least halfway into the zone somehow didn't get called back for offsides. Right. And that was in the playoffs. That sucked. Or it might not have been the plus, but it was like a late game in the season for like standings determination. I forget what it was, but you get those Rare plays. But 95% of the time it's like you're looking at if a guy's skate was touching the ice and it's a millimeter off the ice or you're looking if the puck. If you see a little white sliver of, of ice in between the puck and the blue line, does that affect the play at all? No. Realistically, no. Not at all. So why are we taking.
You know, and those are the ones that take the longest, that slow the game down the most.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: You're like, this doesn't affect anything. No, this does not affect how the play turned out whatsoever.
And you're taking 10, 15 minutes to review this. It's pointless. It just slows the game down.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I agree. I think a little middle ground we can resolve here because they're not going to get rid of it, I don't think.
But I think like middle ground would be put a, like not even a time limit, but like, I think so. It has to be overwhelming evidence if you have to zoom in and go frame by frame. It's not upside or you missed it.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I just think there should be like, give it like a two minute timer on the review. Right. If it's a blatant call, you're gonna get those back that are like, oh, that's a terrible call. Right. That guy's eight feet into the zone. He's cherry picking. This is why offside's a thing. You're gonna catch those instantly. You don't need two minutes to review it. Right?
[00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:02] Speaker A: But if you have a play that it's like you're sitting there taking 15 minutes to review. It didn't affect the game.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: So why are you doing it just a. Oh, well, rules are rule. Offsides, off sites. No. Shut up, nerd. I don't care. Just can play hockey, dude. Yeah, it's. It takes out the humans like The. It's like the robo umpires, they're. They're trying to get done in. In the lb. It's in the minor leagues now. It's like, takes away the human aspect.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Of the game, too, and, like, how cool it is that catchers can, like, manipulate it to make it look like it's a strike. Like, that's cool to me. That's all, like, strategy. It's a skill.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: That they've been working on their entire life. And if you replace the umpire with the robot, it's not. I know the world's headed towards AI and. But for sports, we need refs. As much as we hate them, we need them just to make it. Yeah. You know, you could play. If you want a robo call, go play NHL 25 and you'll get. Get it called every time when it's correct. Exactly. But that's not. We're doing here. We're playing sports.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: So just. Yeah. I mean, bugs me. I hope the PWHL doesn't go to it. I hope the NHL puts, like, a time limit on them. Yeah.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Just review those ones that are very obvious if the ref. But even then, it's like, why did the ref miss that if he's a foot offside?
[00:28:21] Speaker A: The other thing they don't have, which I find really interesting, is there's no reviews for icing, but I don't know if you've ever, like, sat on the red line in a game, whether it be a pro game or what. Well, we're talking about pro hockey, so, like, for a pro hockey game, have you ever had a Steelheads game or a Sharks game, like, on the red line?
[00:28:41] Speaker B: I don't think I've sat, like, on it. No.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: Half of the time when guys are dumping the puck in, you know, you get the puck to the red line, then you dump it in.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Half of the time they're shooting it well before the red line. They're like a foot or two before the red line, and it's like the puck's off their stick, but they're, like, crossing over the red line. Ref sway but off. No icing. Why don't you have reviews for that if the rules matter so much?
[00:29:04] Speaker B: True, true.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: Like, if you need to be so exact, you can look back, there's, like, plays. You watch live hockey, and the. The ref or the commentators would be talking about how, you know, they're really experienced defenseman. They don't even need to get it to the red line. They just make it look like they got it to the red line. And it's like, why are we reviewing offsides for escape Blade being on the ice then?
[00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean, I. It's just. It's a little bit unnecessary, I think.
And like we said, I think middle ground, give them a time limit if they can't really determine it. And under a minute 30.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Then it's not that it doesn't affect it that much. Like, it really doesn't. And I think truly, like, these refs should just be on it and like, if you think it's offside, call it, blow it, don't let it play out and see what happens.
I get that angle. But, like, it's coming to a point where these offside reviews are just so atrocious. And soccer doesn't do. I don't. Well, soccer heads, you can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think soccer reviews offsides. The ref calls it and they call it, and that's. That's. It is what it is. If they don't call it, they didn't call it.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: Typically, soccer refs are pretty damn good at it, though.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: They're true.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Pretty damn good at recognizing outside.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: And I will say, out of all the leagues in the country, the us.
[00:30:24] Speaker A: The NHL or Big five.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah. The NHL refs, I think, are the best in terms of just how. And it's not that, like, they're amazing because they're not, but just because of how bad the NFL refs are. NBA, college football, I guess, too, but football and umpire, like, it's. We have it good in the NHL, but we want to keep it there. That's what we're doing here. So I don't know. What do you guys think? Let us know in the comments if you think. If you like offsides. Are they good? Are they bad? Offside review.
Let us know what you think.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: I think the NHL should just be like roller hockey. There's. There's no blue lines. It's just all. All offensive or defensive zone. I think it'd be awesome. Snow offsides get. Let guys cherry pick it.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: B ways all day.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah, true. It might.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: I don't actually believe that I was.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: Gonna try to play Devil. No, can't.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: I'm just talking on my ass.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: But we also got some news about the Winter Classic next year, which open to you guys. You can get Alan and I there next year because this podcast is so successful.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: We got two outdoor games in the state of Florida, which I know people were talking about these Last couple months, like a possibility of it. It happened.
The first one is the Winter Classic with the Panthers and the Rangers. Then the second one is the stadium Series with the Lightning and the Bruins.
[00:32:00] Speaker A: That one is next year, though.
That's the 2026 Navy Federal Credit Union NHL Stadium Series, I believe.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: Correct. So is the Panthers and Rangers.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: Oh, I thought, oh, well, it's 20.
I forgot what year it was.
That's brutal.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: I was like, well, yeah, that's next year.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: There we go.
[00:32:23] Speaker B: Yeah, Well, I guess. I mean, it is played on January 2 now.
The winter Classic, instead of. Yeah, technically, we didn't even have a classic in 2025. Yeah, we didn't, because it was played on the 31st.
Sad.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: We already had that conversation. I don't know why the hell. Whatever.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah, January 2nd. That's. I think it's. I think it's a Friday because my birthday is the day after that, which is a Saturday next year. Right? Yeah. So it'll be cool. Maybe a little birthday thing. Get down there to the Winter Classic. It's in Miami, too. So they're playing. I thought it was going to be at the. Where the Miami Dolphins play, but it's actually going to be at the Miami Marlin Stadium, which has a retractable roof.
So potentially we could have the first. If the weather's bad, they're probably going to close it. I'd assume it's Florida. You never know.
We could potentially have the first outdoor indoor stadium. Indoor stadium game, I guess you could say.
I don't know if any of these stadium series have been played in a dome before, but this one's a retractable roof. So they. I'm assuming what's going to happen is, you know, everyone's like, oh, you're gonna be playing on water.
I mean, it's the NHL and they have millions of dollars of infrastructure to keep that ice cold. And they're gonna close the top off during the day, and it's probably gonna be played pretty late at night in Miami. Yeah. And then they're gonna take that roof off. But if it's raining there, who knows? We could have. It should be kind of crazy, but.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: We talked about this right before the Winter Classic, the episode that got released. I think it was the day after the Winter Classic, but we recorded it the day before. And we're talking about get some new matchups going. Right. It seems like it's the same teams every year. Now you have a different opinion on this than I do, but I think there was. There. There were a couple missed opportunities with these games. I don't think of the Bolts and the Bruins as rivals, nor do I think of the Panthers Rangers as rivals.
However, I do think of the Panthers and the Bolts as rivals. And I do think of the Panthers and the Bruins as rivals. Yeah, I. I had said make a Tampa, Florida Winter Classic. Right. Both these teams got outdoor games, which is great, but they're playing the wrong teams.
You think it should be Panthers, Bruins?
I think that would make a whole lot more sense than Panthers, Rangers. I don't particularly care to see the Rangers play any hockey games, let alone in a stadium series or Warner Classic.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: Yeah, again, yeah, that too. I mean, I'm glad they listened to us. I know they were listening to our feedback.
[00:35:14] Speaker A: Yeah, they tuned in.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: They tuned in and they heard that they want some new matchups. So, you know, Bolts and Panthers, like, that's awesome. They got Winter Classics. I'm excited to see what the Panthers come out with for some jerseys, but, yeah, I mean, Panthers and Bruins would have been perfect. That would have been.
Oh, I would have. I would have seriously considered to go to that game if it was Panthers and Bruins just because of how. I mean, I mean, they played the other night. I don't. Or, yeah, Saturday, Great game. If you guys didn't watch that.
Panther scored, like, last second of the third period and then Bruins won in, like, the last second of overtime. Those games against those two teams are always fantastic.
And then the Winter Classic, like, pan. I guess. I mean, the Panthers, Rangers was a good series in the playoffs last year, but you guys, like, just. You had it. You were so close. NHL, so close. Panthers, Bruins, Winter Classic would have fed families, generations, legacies, bloodlines. Like, it would have just been awesome. And, you know, I'm kind of just. I guess we're kind of begging for too much, but, you know, we're always going to keep you honest. NHL. I know you guys.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: So I do find it pretty funny that the NHL has some work cut out for him for keeping the. Keeping the ice set.
So the average high temperature in February in Tampa, Florida is 75 degrees.
Now, there have been outdoor games in Southern California and in Northern California. Right. Where it doesn't get much colder than that. Right?
[00:36:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:00] Speaker A: But it still does get colder than that. It's also nowhere near as humid.
[00:37:05] Speaker B: Yeah, the humidity.
I'm.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: I'm just curious how that's going to work if they're going to have to freeze the ice over, like, weeks and weeks or what's going to go on.
I can Imagine humidity probably doesn't do wonders for freezing.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
Because February 6th is around super bowl time, I want to say. So even if the Buccaneers are. Because it's at the Buccaneer Stadium, so even if the Buccaneers are playing in the playoffs that far, which, I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen, but.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Hey, Baker on the run.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: He could and I'm praying for him, but I don't think, like, that's not gonna be an issue. So they'll have time with the, with the ice, obviously. Panthers in Miami Berries. Baseball isn't played in January, December. So yeah, plenty of time there. And I think with that retractable roof, it'll help them out. The Buccaneer Stadium is interesting, though. And in Tampa Bay being that warm.
I'm honestly just. I'm curious. I'm curious to see what's going to happen.
There's a lot more science, I'm sure, that they know than we do.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: About how to keep that cold.
What they're gonna do, I don't know. I'd be interested to see. But I mean, overall I think they're definitely getting it.
Having it in Florida, both those games is cool.
The state of Florida has gone to the Stanley cup final since the year 2020, so you can't say it's not a hockey state. I mean, they've won. They've also, what, 1, 1, 2, 3 Stanley Cups in the last four years?
[00:38:43] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: So aside from Vegas, was it.
[00:38:49] Speaker A: Vegas is the only other team that is Vegas and the Abs.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Abs.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Five years.
[00:38:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So three cups in five years. They definitely. Yeah. It'll be cool to see. I hope that.
Because I mean, I mean, Panthers are definitely selling out now. I think they've got a more fan base. Especially when you win a Stanley Cup. That always helps.
And I mean, I think just Miami in general, if you've got an outdoor hockey game to go to, even if you're not a die hard hockey fan, that's still super cool to go to, so.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I think it'll be. There'll be a lot of parties going on before and after.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: Should be a good time for anybody who's in the area.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: Or if the NHL wants to send us.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah, they should. I mean, we gave you guys the idea to get away from.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: I put the NHL on outdoor games in Florida. I just did.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: You did.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: It's a fact. It is a fact. Can't argue facts.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: Nope. Go back. Go back. Go watch two weeks ago or. Yeah. Go watch the episode from two Weeks ago, and you'll see that Alan put the NHL on outdoor games.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: That's facts. Specifically, in Florida, the first outdoor games are played. Like, before I was live.
Pretty sure the first hockey game ever played was outside.
Yeah, I put them on it. I put them. I retroactively put them on it.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah. The NHL, though. Yeah. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all us. So that's what you get when you're watching the good old hockey podcast.
And yeah, thank you for watching this episode. Be sure to subscribe. Follow. Like, follow us on Instagram at Good hockey podcast. Follow me on Tick Tock at Shawn Doville. Even though Tick Tock might get banned in the next six days. So that's really awesome because we were getting some traction on there, and now Tick Tock shutting down.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: So are they actually shutting down?
[00:40:50] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, it's this. They always do every year, it seems like around January, where they're like, oh, we're gonna shut down Tick Tock. So we'll see if it actually happens.
But if not, go follow us on Instagram, all that fun stuff. And.
Yeah. Anything else before we get out of here? Gamble responsibly. Don't take any of that advice we had earlier.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: No. Gamble irresponsibly. Get back. Or wait. Get even. Or get even worse. There you go. Correct my one tip for the week.
Go have fun, boys. No, I'm kidding. Don't do that. Don't put yourself in that.
[00:41:29] Speaker B: Not worth it. It's fun in the time, in the moment, but if you lose, it's not fun. So.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:35] Speaker B: But everyone, thank you for listening, and we'll see you guys next week.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Peace. Peace.
