Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, everybody, welcome back to the good ol hockey podcast. I'm here with Alan right there. And we just had a crazy, crazy trade deadline.
I would say probably one of the best the last couple years. Yeah, just like juicy drama wise.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: Especially most of it happened on deadline day too. Yeah, I feel like there's that. The Seth Jones trade. But then like the rest of it all happened on deadline day which hasn't been the case last couple years.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: We had two blockbuster trades with one guy back to back within a month. Month span.
But first things first.
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[00:00:45] Speaker B: Okay. Put me on the spot here, sell me this pen. Okay.
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[00:00:55] Speaker A: Boom.
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[00:00:58] Speaker A: Last week. Oh God, our game. We're not going to talk about our league. Yeah. We're in the hunt for playoffs right now for beer league.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: We're locked in the playoffs. We're just. We need to lock in our seating.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: Okay. That's right.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Both the teams we could play are really good. So we're kind of. We basically have to beat both of them to win our championship. There's a four team playoff in our league and we would have to probably play the two best teams to win which we've beaten them both this season. So I'm not too worried about it.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: No, not too scared.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: But I think we need to win this upcoming week. Some people think we need to lose.
It's kind of a debate in our group chat. Yeah, I think, I think we should win.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Yeah. At this point just. We just need a confidence win at this point. We've lost seriously ones in a row. Um, but yeah, I went to pickup with Vic and Scott on Friday and that was such a change of pace of play.
I haven't been to pickup since probably before the season.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: But going out there I was like skating around the ice and like a.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: Bunch of old dudes.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it was like a bunch of younger kids that probably played like high school league.
[00:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Interesting.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: In the Treasure Valley. So they were bad, but they were not good compared to the teams that we play.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: But let's get into it with the trade deadline. We're going to kind of go through all the trades that happened and kind of go from there with everything. But I would say the first one, the first like big trade of that of Friday, I guess maybe was it Thursday? I Think it was Thursday actually.
But it was from our own San Jose Sharks, Jake Walman to The Edmonton Oilers 4.
Do you remember who it was?
[00:02:51] Speaker B: A conditional first round pick from next year and some guy named Carl, if I remember correctly. Carl Bergstrom.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Is that the trade correct?
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Yeah. It was a 2026 first. Carl Bergstrom.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: Carl. Sorry, Carl. If you're watch.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So that one. I mean, I think what I loved about that trade as a Sharks fan was the fact that Walman was acquired for free. Free. Future considerations. And I think we also got like a second round pick.
[00:03:26] Speaker B: He got a second round pick from. From Detroit. Take on his contract.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Yeah. That's what it was. Yeah.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: And not even a full year later we trade him away for a first round pick.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:35] Speaker B: Which is kind of nuts. Yeah.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Which I hope that doesn't count as future considerations. I don't think it.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: No, no, no, no.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: Because he like, not that he was bad last year, but he definitely bolstered himself this season with just how he's been playing, which was awesome. So we were able to.
We not on the team. Mike Greer was able to flip the guy for. Yeah. Basically nothing to, you know, like he was a good part of our team. And I'd kind of wished he'd maybe be a part of the rebuild. But at the end of the day.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: No player doesn't match the timeline. No player is safe. He can't get. Can't get married to anybody in a rebuild.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Unless you're Celerini or Smith. Orin. Like. Yeah.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: Or Askarov.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Or Askarov. Same dignity.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Exact.
You can't get married to even the guys that are going to stick around for all of it.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
Which if you have been a long time list. Not a long time. But we'll do a little Sharks breakdown at the end for our Sharks fans. But the next one that happened, that's pretty.
It's called like notable because we're not going to break down every single trade we could. We'd be here for probably two, three hours. But the next one I'm seeing is the Colorado Avalanche did make a pretty big splash in deadline day. Not just. I mean even that ran in trade. They got a pretty good return for him. But the Avalanche acquired Brock Nelson and William Defour for Richie Callum. Oliver Clington 2026 first and a 2028 third to the Islanders. So I think for both of these. I mean, Brock Nelson is Brock Nelson, but he fits well.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: I think he's a good hockey player.
[00:05:31] Speaker A: He is.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: Yeah. He might look like he's 80 years old. He looks like he receives Social Security, but he's a good hockey player. I think that's a good ad for depth scoring for that team.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:42] Speaker B: They won the cup because it seemed like they could roll four lines and every single line would be competitive with teams top line. And I think that just kind of adds to that, which is good for them. Yeah. Honestly, I think it's a good piece to pick up.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And they. I mean, overall, like, looking at the Avalanche and what they got, they got Marty Naches, Drury, they got Brock Nelson. They also got Charlie Coyle. Those are two, like, third and fourth line centers right there.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: And that's just very good ones. Yeah. Really good depth players.
They already have a top heavy team. I mean, they have two of the best players in the league.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: Yeah. The.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: One of the best players. The best player in the league.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Probably the best player in the league.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: I'm going to say. Yeah.
Nathan McKinnon is the best player in the league.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah. There's absolutely an argument at this point in time.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:35] Speaker B: You might not.
You might not have, like, the pure skill that Conor McDavid has, but, like, if you just look at the stats, like, it's hard to argue.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: I mean, he was MVP last year. I think he's going to do it again this year.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: He has the ability to control a game.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: Just like Connor McDavid does.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: I mean, what else he has that McDavid doesn't?
[00:06:55] Speaker B: Huh?
[00:06:56] Speaker A: Stanley Cup.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: He also does have a Stanley Cup.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: Yeah. So.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: And his nicknames. The Dog.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Nate Dog McJesus.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: Nate Dog McJesus might still be better.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Jesus is pretty cool, but still. Nate Dog. Yeah.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: See, I think Avalanche did an absolutely amazing job.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: To really. Because, like, they have had this. Not the same team, but I felt like they've had the same team for. Since they won that cup.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: Obviously having 4G. EV did not help them. He had a. I don't know how he won that cup for them. That if he just was.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: It was Darcy Kemper in that.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: Okay. Who was good? Good enough. Yes.
It was better than. It was better than Alexander Giorgi, I'll tell you that.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I think at this point, any. Well, I mean, we had Mackenzie Blackwood and Mackenzie.
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:50] Speaker A: Miles above him.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: He's nasty.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: I think. Did we talk about that a little bit last week? I think we did.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Blackwood. Yeah.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Nasty. Nasty player. Yeah.
[00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, he's going to be. And yeah, the Avalanche as a whole, like, just this Year.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: What they've added, I think they're a favorite of mine to be out of the west to go to the Stanley Cup Final.
I really like them more than the stars just because of pure experience.
But yeah. And we'll get into the stars because they got a big trade.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: But.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: The next one I'm seeing is the Dylan. So this one was kind of drama filled.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: This is between the Sabres and the Senators. So Senators got Dylan Cousins, Dennis Gilbert, a 2026 second round pick in exchange to Buffalo for Josh Norris and Jacob Bernard Docker. So both Dylan Cousins and Josh Norris are around. They Both expire in 2030. Their contracts and they both Dylan Cousins gets paid 7.1, Norris gets paid 7.95.
[00:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: Both around the same age. So it's kind of a swap there. But Josh Norris is Brady Kachuk's like best friend.
And as a gm, I mean, it's a business. It's hockey. It's not, you know, nothing's ever like solidified that you're going to stay with the team.
But there's already kind of been conversations that Brady's not going to stick around or, you know, just doesn't. He's American. He's playing in Canada.
After watching him play the other night, I don't think that's the case. Like, I think he does love it there, but to have that like hanging in the balance and you trade away his best friend, it was just kind of crazy.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I would agree. I think both of these guys, they're both young. Norris 25, cousins 24. And it doesn't really seem like either of them have matched what they've done in prior years. At least this year.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:07] Speaker B: I think Norris is a former 35 goal scorer.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: He's got 20 goals, 33 points in 53 games. Like, it's not terrible pace, but it's not what you really expect taking a step forward.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: And his last couple years, obviously had that season ending injury two years ago. Skated like eight games and didn't play much last season.
I think it's probably just kind of a fresh start shake up for both these guys.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Which I think is going to be good for them. Josh Norris can be more.
I say this, it's not like the Sabers get much media attention, but he's going to be more of a prominent figure on that team where he'll probably be the second best player on that team. Yeah.
Probably will be playing with Tage Thompson.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:55] Speaker B: So give more opportunity than Dylan Cousins.
He's Going to be the only player besides Brady Kachuk on the Senators who's actually relevant.
I know they have other like, defensemen and whatnot, but. Yeah, I mean, they have Shane Chickering.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I mean, Shane Pinto, I think, like, he's still. I think he's around that same age. 25, 26.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: When they got Tim Stutzlo, stuff like that. Like. And they just got Fabian Zettle in too.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Oh, true.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Which is a sneaky pick for them.
[00:11:26] Speaker B: I love Fabian.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: Zoe. Miss them, but.
Yeah, I mean, I think Ottawa, they kind of have a chance to make playoffs right now. Yeah, they can definitely do it after last year being bottom of the Atlantic and just not like. I mean, I guess both these teams were bottom of the Atlantic, huh?
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Both of these teams.
I see the Sabres and the Senators in the same way as I see like the Anaheim Ducks, which is hilarious because it's coming from a Sharks fan. But they both should be good by now.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: With how many topics they've gotten over the last few years, how many young, talented players they have.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Ottawa obviously has like Tim Stutzla and. And Brady Tkachuk and they should be good by now.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: And so should the Sabers with all of the picks they've gotten in the last 15 years. Like they should be competing for a playoff spot. Yeah.
And they're not, which is just kind of sucks. But who knows? If this works out, I think it could be a great trade for both teams. The center's got a second round pick too.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: Which. And I mean, Bernard Docker is also. He's 24.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: I think good younger defenseman.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah. He's, I think an RFA this off season. But yeah, still, I mean, they swapped out Dennis Gilbert for Bernard Docker and yeah, he's four years younger, so.
Yeah, I think who. I mean, centers also have Olmark in that now.
[00:12:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: Which is a big upgrade from who they have before. Freddie Anderson or who they.
I think it was Freddie Anderson.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: No, you're thinking of Craig Anderson, but that was a while ago.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: I'm thinking of the Hurricanes going, yeah.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: Who on earth did they have before? Omar, did they have. I don't know. I'm having a hard time remembering.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Regardless, whoever they had, obviously we can't remember their name, but is a.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Who was that?
[00:13:26] Speaker A: Omar's a bigger upgrade.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: Jonas Corpasalo. There we go.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: Yeah. And they traded.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Ass on the set and he's ass on the Bruins right now.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Funny, funny little tidbit. We have a good friend named Tim who's big Nashville Predators fan. In our locker room last week he was Talking about how O'Reilly is 100% going to be dealt right at the deadline. And looking on NHL discussion. Shout out to that Instagram page on looking at these trades and they have a post here with big Nashville Predators logo with Ryan O'Reilly's face in it. Zero interest. Nashville's Ryan O'Reilly reportedly has no desire in a reunion with the Maple Leafs and zero interest from other teams.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: That's pretty funny.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, Nashville, they didn't do anything. I mean, why would you. I mean, at least try to get another pick.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: I would say try and trade somebody.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Although I say that Stamcoast had a hat trick.
I think it was last night.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Hat trick. Yeah. Still they're not making the playoffs.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: No.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: Sorry, Tim.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, let's go to the next page on here. But yeah, I mean overall, I think Ottawa definitely helped themselves out this, this trade deadline and yeah, can definitely make a push for playoffs, which is something that they need because.
Yeah, they just haven't had. Like you said, they've been a great team.
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: But what have they gotten out of it?
Next one. This one's actually pretty good. The Winnipeg jets acquired Brandon Taniv from Seattle. Gave them a 2027 second round pick. The jets are the best team in the league, I want to say. Still.
And adding Brandon Tanev is.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: He's just.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: It's a role player kind of thing. He's expiring this year could be just a rental, but you kind of need that just something just to kind of help the team out. They haven't had much playoff success. They have great regular season success.
Not much different than Leafs, but they just don't do anything with it.
So I kind of like that trade for them.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: Yeah, there was a big signing. I want to go over here.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Before we get. There's a couple other trades that looks like happened before that, but Wyatt Johnston got an extension. Five years, $8.4 million.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: I love that.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Which I love it for Dallas. I honestly think Wyatt Johnson should have signed like a two or three year deal and then get paid the big bucks in two in a couple of years.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: That kid's nasty. He's going to be a superstar.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: We were talking about that last night. Buffalo Wild Wings.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: He's going to be a superstar in this league.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I agree. While we're on the topic of the start, we talk. Talk about. Ran into.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: Because I Mean, yeah. Wyatt Johnson was a huge signing for. I want to say it was like all within the same hour that Mika Rant and I think when I woke up that day on Friday, it was okay. Yeah. Mika Ran is going to the Stars, but they're just trying to figure out a trade and sign deal. Yeah.
Which is what you need at that point if you're going to get someone like him and send over Logan Stankhoven to the Hurricanes.
Making sure that he signs is a big deal. But Mika Ran and only. Not only Rand and signed for $12 million a year.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: Only 12. Yeah.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: But I say only because I want to see. The avalanche offered him 13.5 and the Hurricanes offered him 13 and he declined both. I. I understand maybe the Colorado situation where it's like he knows that they can get into some cap troubles and not make it last long term and he probably wants to be somewhere that he can make it last long term.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: And I think the Stars is a good fit for him. He had a goal last night.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: Yep.
Multi point night. Which was crazy.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah. For a first game playing.
[00:17:36] Speaker B: First game. They did lose though, right? They did, yeah. Lost Edmonton by 1 4.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Which Edmonton looked good too with Jake Walman.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: I'm really excited. I think the.
I think before the trade deadline I was. I think we were talking last week we were like, oh, the west sucks.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Like the west is super weak. Which like from.
I'm. I guess like the bottom four playoff teams probably are not super strong.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: But these teams all around. Not like the top 14. Yeah.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: The, the best teams in the west are definitely scary. Coming from the east before the trade deadline, I'd say it was like, oh yeah, the Knights probably because Knights. Yeah.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Just gotta. But now it's like it's gonna happen.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: It can be really any of these teams. I. I'm still not sold on Winnipeg. Never going to. Until they make it past probably the second round, I'd say.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean the Stars as a whole definitely got better.
Giving up Logan Stankhoven probably hurts a little bit. But if you're getting Mika Ran in.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: Return like Miko Rant and signed long term too.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: That too.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: What are the odds Logan Stankhoven turns into a player as good as or better than Mika Ran and probably not very high and you now have him for the next eight years.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: It's like why not?
[00:19:02] Speaker A: But for the Hurricanes, I mean I also saying like he may not turn into a player like Renan but for the Hurricanes, like he's still A great player to be adding into.
Yeah, that's nice. So I don't know if they're going to go into like rebuild mode or retool mode. I don't even know. I mean Hurricanes are. I feel for those fans.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Yep. It's a lot.
Marty Natures was just breaking out, trade him away. Mika Rant and didn't do anything for their team. Lost him a month later.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: They traded for Jake Gens last year.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: Didn't do anything. Lost him in free agency.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: So it's like sucks.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: They've got probably PTSD and they're just like, yeah, we need them out.
Miko ran and actually did you see that interview of him before the Stars game?
[00:19:51] Speaker B: I think you told me about it, but I didn't actually see the interview.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So I forget who asked him, but someone was like, how, like when did you feel like you wanted to be out of Carolina? He was like, like last week. Like, it's just. I. I don't know, it just probably didn't seem like a good fit for him.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:07] Speaker A: Um.
But yeah, to be able to, to be able to get traded twice as a superstar within a month span is crazy.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Like just to have that. But it makes sense from where Carolina's sitting at. Um, but yeah, I mean overall I think the Stars are scary because what they have Matt Duchenne, they have Jason Robertson, they have Miko Ran and they have Mira Heiskinen, they have Johnston Wyatt Johnston.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: You look down the lineup. Tyler Sagan, he's on his game and healthy because he's injured right now, but when he's healthy he's nasty.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Jamie Ben's still a force.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: Jamie Ben?
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Hilarious. He's awesome. I love that guy. Yeah, they're just a good team all around. They look at there's guys like that are playing on their fourth line or like slotted on their fourth line. Who been on the first line this year of getting. Dadnov has been on their first line three times this season. It's like they're such a deep team.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: I would say on paper they're the best team in the NHL. Yeah.
Who knows once you know they actually hit the ice. They lost last night, but they're also injured. Heiskin is out.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Sagan's out.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: Who did someone go down to? I want to say who's the other h named player on their team?
[00:21:27] Speaker B: Rupa Hints.
[00:21:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:29] Speaker B: That's a guy we're completely forgetting about. He's one of the best two way centers in the NHL. He's gross.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah. They have a crazy deep team.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: And then they have Jake Ottinger and net, who hasn't been spectacular this year, but he's also not been bad by any stretch of the imagination, but good. Yeah.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: All you need to do is make playoffs. And once you get. If you get hot in playoffs, it's all that matters.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: The craziest part about this team too, is they're still pretty young. Yeah. You think about like the best players.
Miro Heiskin is what, 25, 26. He's 20B. 25.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Mika Ran is 20.
[00:22:08] Speaker B: He's 28. Jason Robertson's like 27.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: Right.
Wyatt Johnson's 21.
[00:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Jake Ottenrews, 25. I think, like, you have a young. They do. And a young, like, good core already.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: Yeah, they've been good for years. Yeah. And they've been good for years before that, too, with Tyler Sagan, Jamie Ben.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: Joe Pavelski. Shout out.
[00:22:31] Speaker B: You shout out Joe.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Love them, but I mean, yeah, they've. They've had like an interesting, like, I can't even remember the time where Dallas was rebuilding. Did they just draft well or did.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: They, like, they had like a retool, like 2015. They weren't very good.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: Like a couple years in the mid 2010s, but like, that was it.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: That's what's good for all the 2000s. Yeah, pretty much.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I know. Like, as a Sharks fan, I hated playing against them.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Oh, I hated.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: I hated the Stars.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: They game in, whatever it was, that four overtime game and it was like 2007 playoffs. The entire reason I'm playing goalie.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: Because of getting a Bakov and that was a heartbreaker. Did not like Dallas for the next 10 years because of that game.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Marty Turco.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: Yeah, Marty Turco. Mike Ribeiro. Oh, I hate that. He's so good, but I hated that guy. Yeah.
[00:23:26] Speaker A: Yeah. No, that team's just like.
Yeah, they've.
They've stayed good for a long time, which is impressive.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: Another team has stayed good for a long time. And got some juicy details. The Boston Bruins.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: So before we get into Marshawn backing up that Charlie Coyle trade, getting rid of Charlie Coyle, but they got in return Casey Middlestadt.
I think it's a pretty good trade for them.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think it's a bad trade for sure. No, I'd say Charlie Coyle is better right now.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I think they're pretty like. Well, I was looking at both. They're on the same track for points.
[00:24:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: Like they're not far off of each other. And Casey Middlesat's younger, younger center. It's basically just a player swap. They get paid around the same amount, free agents around the same time.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:25] Speaker A: A year difference.
Boston also got a 20, 25 second round pick this year.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: And looking at it right now, William Zettle Zellers, 24, third round pick in 40 USHL games, has 37 goals, 58 points.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Oh, no Slouch.
That's not a bad trade.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: No. Personally, I like it for him. I mean, yeah, if you're getting like just the shape that the Boston Bruins are in right now, why not? Yeah, why not? So the other trade, Brad Marchand to their division rival.
That is the craziest thing to me. And I know I had made a clip about Brad Martian when it. When the. Like on trade deadline day.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: The past couple days we found out that per Elliot Friedman too, the best reporter in all sports. That guy's crazy.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: He is crazy, that guy.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: They did that little clip I put on the Instagram of just his day to day.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: Him grinding screen time.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Book, dude, his screen time. Did you see that?
[00:25:33] Speaker B: 20.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: He averages 21 hours a day screen time.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: He only sleeps three hours a day. Yeah, that's nuts.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: Yeah, he had said that like on trade deadline day, he had had three hours of sleep the night before.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that guy's a grind. And he's like also on Sportsnet. Like, he's an active. He's working.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: But he's getting phone calls. He'll like step out and be like, hold on, I gotta take this phone call.
Step away from the desk.
[00:25:59] Speaker B: And that's insane.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: 21 hours of screen time.
[00:26:03] Speaker A: Yeah. But you know, it's worth it. That guy's quick on it.
But he had said that Brad Martian was willing to resign with the Bruins. Bruins said no.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: And then Marshan's request was, all right, the only team I want to go to is Florida, which is crazy. Like, that's a team that he's beefed with, you know, and it's all in hockey. Like, yeah, you can beef with someone.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: But at the end of the day, like, it's all competition.
[00:26:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: And like these guys off the ice probably do like each other. I don't know how much he really likes Matthew Chuck, but he's going to have to figure out.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: I just think, I hope that at least for one shift they put out Sam Bennett, Brad Marchand, Matthew Tkachuk.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Just for one shift. Just to see what would happen. I'm sure all three of them are getting penalties.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: But I just think that that would be hilarious.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: That's a great line.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: See the mayhem that would go on. Yeah. Might be a good line too. Yeah. I mean all three of those guys are talented.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Brad Marchand is lowest overall drafted out of that group. Bennett was the highest. Funny enough, he was fourth overall pick. This is crazy. That's a. Interesting trade. Kind of a big middle finger at a Boston from Martian. He's all, you don't want to resign me. Well, guess what? Send me, send me to Florida.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: I think the only thing that would be worse is if he said trade me to the Maple Leaf.
That's like the only thing that was worse. And they still. They traded to the Maple Leafs. They bolstered both the or they bolstered both the Panthers and the Maple Leafs to go on a playoff run.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: They basically got a bag of pucks back to from too.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: It was kind of nuts. I mean 20 Tony 2027 second round pick for your captain.
That's what, two years in the future.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: Three drafts. Yeah.
Or a 28 first round selection, which you don't know where the hell that's going to be. Right. That could be 32nd overall.
[00:28:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Like the Panthers are young team.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: Panthers are young and talented. Like.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Basically got nothing back.
Which I just find. I find quite interesting.
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Well, do you think for the Bruins, like do you think now are they going to blow it up? Is probably staying is like what are they going to do?
[00:28:32] Speaker B: I highly doubt that that team is going to be around much longer. Posternach is never going to have more trade value than he does right now.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: Exactly right.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: Get rid of him while you can. This team is not going to be good for next few seasons. Minimum.
They're already not good. Yeah, they haven't been good. Last year they weren't really that good. Like blow it up. Now they almost turn into the sharks of 2021.
[00:28:57] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:28:57] Speaker B: Right. Where you're just trying to cling on to something, running it back with the same guys and they're not because Martian is gone. Yeah. But it's clearly not working. It hasn't been working for the last few years.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: The last couple years obviously. And they just win season.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: A couple years ago.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: But that was like the end of everything.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah. That. That was your last chance and it's time to blow it up.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:19] Speaker B: Move on. Start drafting high.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
That's advice. Like As a fan, not as a GM. Advice, because I've never been a GM. Actually, I've been a GM.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: I've been a GM and NHL.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: Exactly. Been a GM in NHL. 24, 25, 23, 21.
I have a lot of experience as a GM and the one thing I know is trade, trade, trade, trade and get first round picks.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: You can trade eight first round picks for this year's first overall pick every time.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it works. You may not have much of a.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: Future, but listen, every year I seem to go on like an eight year Stanley cup run with, with the San Jose Sharks, like every single NHL. So I know what I'm talking about. Don Sweeney, figure it out.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: And also like there's this feature. I don't know why GMs don't use this more. But you can edit players and you can change their stat, like their attributes.
You can change how they look. If you, you know, like you have all this freedom as a gm, you can go in, change, you know their potential. You can change into a franchise. Medium, medium franchise potential.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Every single. All you got to do is get the first overall pick by trading like, you know, four or five first first arounders for the one first overall. Then you need to play them on the, on the first line, first line power play, first line penalty call with plus 5 chem. And guess what? You're going to have the greatest player in the NHL.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: It's simple. Don Sweeney. Figure it out.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: You can also change the trade difficulty setting to easy.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: He's on high right now and he's just getting a bag of pretzels for Brad Marshawn, his captain.
[00:30:57] Speaker B: But the Bruins are also retaining 50% of his salary.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: Yeah, which, which it's only for a year, but. Yeah. And to be fair, I mean to be fair to them and what they got in return.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: Yes. Brad Martian's old.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: Old.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: He's 37. Yeah, he's aging.
But at the same time, like the thing for me is the year on it maybe pants. I don't know what the Panthers have in terms of draft picks off the top of my head, but they might not even have a second round pick.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: In the next couple years. So maybe that's why they did it. And Marshan's request was put me in Florida.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: But I mean, at the end of the day, I would kind of hope at least, at the least you get a 20, 26 second round pick. You'd hope out of it. And it's only one year removed.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: But still, the other thing I'm just now seeing that the Bruins did, which I find really weird. They picked up on Re Yokiharu from the Sabers for a fourth round pick.
If you're gonna, if you're gonna rebuild, you're gonna trade away your captain. You're mainstay for the last 15 years. Right. 17 years. However long he's been on the Bruins. Yeah, it was. It's like 15 years.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:11] Speaker B: Why the hell are you picking up a mediocre second pairing defenseman for a fourth round pick? Keep the fucking pick. Right.
[00:32:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: What are you doing? That makes zero sense to me. Indeed.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: I remember I was watching so on deadline day, I was watching Chicklet's livestream and it was the middle of all this Brad Marchand stuff that the Bruins also were trading him. And I remember Grinnell was like. He was just flipping his. About Bergeron or Bergeron Marshan and then he finds out about the Yoki Haro thing and he's like, I don't like. What is that? Like, it's just Don Sweeney, man.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: I mean that makes no sense.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: No, it doesn't.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Zero sense.
[00:32:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: They all. So they traded away Brandon Carlo as well.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: For. To the leafs for a 2026 first round pick. 2024 or 2025 fourth round pick. And Frazier Mitten. That's a good return for Brandon Carlo.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: I like that one. Yeah.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Right. That's. That's a good trade. Right. You get a very young player, a first rounder from next season and a fourth rounder this season. Right. For a guy who probably won't stick around.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:20] Speaker B: That's a good return. Yeah.
But Boston's also retaining 15% of his contract, which is interesting in and of itself.
Sure.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: He's probably got a couple years left.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just. I don't know what the hell they're doing that. That is the only good trade that they really made. Yeah.
But either way. Anyways, let's continue.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I think. Yeah. For the Bruins overall, blow it up.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: Get rid of everyone. Pastas. Like you said, trade values at the highest. The second like his. His trade. His trade value was higher yesterday than it is today.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:01] Speaker A: And so on. Like it's going to keep going that way. Obviously they can't trade now. But I think at the draft one thing is like at the draft, I think you trade One of those three names. Swayman, McAvoy and Pasta. One of the names probably not going to be Pasta.
But if it's. I think you trade Charlie McAvoy at the draft and hope to get some top 10 pick.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:28] Speaker A: From a team, maybe Nashville, but I don't, I don't think that'd be good for Nashville though. But you know who else got traded?
[00:34:38] Speaker B: Who?
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Blockbuster. Shea Weber.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Oh, Shay Weber got traded. I saw that.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Shea Weber got traded to the Chicago Blackhawks. And if you're scratching your head, it's because he had a 14 year contract. Like they're basically just trading his contract. The Utah hockey team now did.
So yeah, Blackhawks legend shape. We should get a Shay Weber. Blackhawks jersey sick.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Ever play a game?
[00:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah, he's well retired, but yeah, they got in return a fifth round pick from the Blackhawks. So yeah, it was just kind of a free up the cap because it was $7 million a year. He's getting paid.
And Utah, Utah's a good team. I think they're going to be nasty in a couple years.
[00:35:23] Speaker B: Absolutely. I think they have a chance really this year. They're currently sitting four points out of the playoffs, the second wild card spot, a little bit lower points percentage. But if they go on a little heater here, which they're six, three and one in their last 10.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: And Calgary is four, three and three, Minnesota's five, five and oh, like they have an opportunity to go on a little run and maybe take over a playoff spot. But yeah, I agree, either way, they're going to be good for years to come. They get that contract off the books, they don't have to deal with Shea Weber, you know, being lazy. Not playing.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Just quitting on his. Quitting on his team.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Jay Weber. I'm joking. I'm sorry. I had a career ending injury. That sucks. Yeah.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Another team, the New Jersey Devils. So heartbreaking. But Jack Hughes goes down with an injury.
He made a pretty sad Instagram post that broke my heart. Just as a fan, someone who played Hawk, like just being able to not play the sport you love because of something that's so like injuries are just annoying and a mental block.
And it seems like he's only had like one healthy season and that was the season he scored 99 points.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: And that was like two years ago now. Like he hasn't been able to show what he can do.
And I think the Devils were really. I don't know if they were pushing for rant in or not, but they, they were looking to get something in the off season because they are in a playoff spot right now.
But they got Cody Glass from the Pittsburgh Penguins.
They had to get rid of Chase Stillman, Max Graham and a 2027 third round pick.
Cody Glass was a first round pick.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: Yep. But by Vegas.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: By Vegas, too. They got rid of so quick.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: Yep. Bye. Bye.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is the Vegas. You see the. That the Knights only have since their inception of the league. They have.
What's his name? Trevor Connolly.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: Yep.
They still have.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: This is the guy who's allegedly racist.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: That too. Yeah, I know. They kept the one guy that's.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. The one guy they keep. They don't keep Cody Glass. Who seems like the nicest guy on the planet.
[00:37:44] Speaker A: Nick Suzuki, too.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: Suzuki.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: Again, seems like the nicest guy on the planet. They keep Trevor Connolly.
I find that so funny.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: I know it is.
Racism isn't funny, but.
Yeah.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying, guys.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But yeah, like keeping. I mean, that's what they did. Like the Knights are. They have a cop, so they can't really.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:10] Speaker A: You can't shoot on them too much for not keeping. It works. Like you kind of got to take risks like we've said before and we'll see. I don't even think they have a first round pick this year, do they?
[00:38:19] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. Yeah. Which was that a part of?
[00:38:23] Speaker A: What pick do we have there? Don't we have a first round pick from them for hurdle or no.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:29] Speaker A: Someone else's first round pick.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was a second round pick for hurdle.
We get two seconds back.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: That hurts.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: I think. Yeah.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: I thought we got a. Yeah, it's okay.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: He didn't fit the rebuild. All right. He didn't fit the rebuild.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: No, he's doing great for them, which is good.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: But. Yeah.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, the Devils. Yeah. I. I just. I feel for them and I kind of wish. I just wish Jack Hughes wasn't hurt.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: I want to see him play in playoffs. Like, I don't even think. Oh, yeah, we got to see him that year. He played against the Rangers that year.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: And they lost.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: But.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. Yeah. Shout out Jack Hughes.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: Sorry, buddy. Jack Hughes.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Who do you think is the biggest winner of this trade deadline?
[00:39:18] Speaker A: Great question.
Put my thinking cap on.
Honestly. The Colorado Avalanche.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: I think the Avalanche got. Just. If you look at what went out the door and what came in the door.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: Fantastic.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: For a cup run to go in the Stanley cup this year. I mean, maybe not even just on the actual day of Friday, but I think the Avalanche overall this season with Their trades and how much this team has changed.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:50] Speaker A: Just Mackenzie Blackwood being the biggest.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: Fantastic.
[00:39:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: They actually have a goalie now.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: Marty Natrius has stepped in and been elite. Yeah, right. He's fit that team perfectly.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: And you're playing. Is he playing with McKinnon?
[00:40:03] Speaker B: He's playing with McKinnon and they're both. Marty Naich is one of those guys I think is like underratedly fast.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:10] Speaker B: He's like one of the fastest players in the NHL and he fits with him perfectly. Yeah, it's just. Yeah. I would say them.
Dallas, maybe just specifically extending Wyatt Johnston.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: Your 20 or one year old superstar sign and getting Miko ran in for the next eight seasons.
If he continues anywhere near the production he was at with McKinnon. Yeah, he's. That's going to be a fantastic trade.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: I think Florida too.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Florida's a big one.
[00:40:39] Speaker A: Like outside of Brad Marchand. I mean, getting rid of Spencer Knight, who also is doing great for the Blackhawks, which is awesome.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: He had a good 41 save debut, which is nuts. And they won. Yeah.
Good for him. And then Seth Jones scored a game winner in overtime for the Panthers. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was the second game. Yeah, he scored the OT game winner, which is great.
Now I have a couple picks for the biggest losers of this trade deadline.
Who would you say? I'll give you three. I'll give you three losers of this trade deadline.
[00:41:18] Speaker A: Three losers of this trade deadline.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: These don't have to be teams, trades.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: They could be teams that did nothing. And there's two teams that I have in mind for that. Okay, but you. I want to hear your take on this.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Okay. Teams that should have done more.
Trying to think of who's in a playoff spot that needs it. Like, because I think like the Capitals don't really need to make any trades. I feel like from what I've heard, their locker room so tight. If that's the thing that's pushing you ahead right now, why would you get rid of anyone?
But let's see, I'm looking at the. Okay, one of mine is a Tampa Bay Lightning. I think the Lightning were on such a tear.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: And maybe this scared everyone in the Atlantic to make a pick or to make a trade, but they didn't really make any. And maybe, you know, maybe they didn't need to make any moves. But with all the teams around them in the east that made, you know, the Panthers, I think I wouldn't, I wouldn't call the Leafs winners of the trade. Deadline, by any means. But they're like middle of the pack.
I wouldn't put them as losers. But the Lightning definitely, probably should have done something.
You could put the Devils in there. I'll put them on there.
Rangers are another one where it's like, what did you guys do?
[00:42:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: But again, Rangers do have a solid roster and they're slowly figuring it out. And they got J.T. miller.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Yeah, already.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: So I wouldn't put them as a loser, actually. But let's see. Winnipeg, just because they didn't do a whole lot.
I mean, the Knights didn't really do anything, but again, like, they're kind of at the top right now, so you don't really need to. Looking at like wild card teams. I'd say the Canucks, probably.
And I mean, maybe. I mean, Calgary's getting carried by Dustin Wolf right now. They're shut out last night.
[00:43:25] Speaker B: Seriously.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: Minnesota Wild.
[00:43:28] Speaker B: Minnesota Wild didn't do anything.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Who do you have they. Let's see. They got Justin Brazil from the Bruins.
I have three specific teams in mind, so.
The Predators.
I hate to handle the Predators again.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: No, you don't.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I don't. I love it. They are the third worst team in the NHL and they made three moves at the deadline. They got rid of Luke Shen, Tommy Novak. They got back Michael Bunting and a fourth round pick.
Just scrolling through here, I could have sworn they made one other trade, but the only other trade I could find is they traded away Mark Jankowski for like a fourth round pick.
20, 25. Fifth round pick for a team that needs to fucking rebuild. Trade somebody. Right. Try and get some sort of package back. You're not going to run it back with this team next year, are you?
[00:44:31] Speaker A: I think they might. You might try. I know you can try, but it's.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: Not going to turn out well. They could be, you know, 20 points better in the standings and they're still out of a playoff spot.
[00:44:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:42] Speaker B: You need to change something and you did not do that at the deadline or at least like the best time to sell.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that too. And like, I think the.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: I could have sworn they made one other trade.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: I think their thing too is they're probably trying to tank a little bit.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: To get a better pick. So, you know, you're not going to go out and get a superstar in the trade deadline, but you can at least get picks, you can get prospects, something. And they didn't do anything.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: Trade somebody like anybody.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Oh, here we go. They traded away Gustav Nyquist. They got a second Round pick from next year, which. That's not a bad trade. But like you have a lot of trade bait on your team.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: Make some sort of moves, right? Yeah, they did. They had like an AHL trade a couple days ago.
[00:45:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: That's about it.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: I was talking to Tim about Barry Trots.
[00:45:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: And he said that he came in like Batman where it was like the night to save us. Like the Dark Knight. He's going to save us from all this. No trouble we've had. And he has just done nothing.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: The opposite.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Did the absolute opposite. Has ruined their team.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: So one of the other losers, I think from this trade deadline for not doing enough is the Anaheim Ducks.
Now they're kind of a bubble team right now. There are a few points out of a playoff spot. They are looking really good as of late and they have. There has been rumors circulating. John Gibson getting traded for the last four seasons.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: Right.
And he's playing really well right now. He's playing better than he has in all four prior seasons.
[00:46:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:30] Speaker B: Get rid of him while you can and get a piece back that's going to help you make a push for the playoffs.
[00:46:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: He's not your starting goalie.
Get rid of him. Right. He's on a great contract. He's a great goalie. There were talks about him going to Edmonton. Right. Get him out of there. They made, from what I'm seeing on deadline day, two trades. They traded away Brian Dumoulin for a second round pick and some guy named Herman.
And then they traded, let's see, they got Oliver Shillington for future considerations from the Islanders. From the Avalanche. Trade. Didn't. Didn't play a game there. And then I think there was one more trade in here, but it was just. It was.
[00:47:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:14] Speaker B: Nothing of note. Like make some sort of move. Make a big name move. You have.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:20] Speaker B: John Gibson is the perfect piece of trade bait for like five teams in the NHL.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:26] Speaker B: Do something with it. Right.
He doesn't want to play hockey. It's been stated multiple times.
Get him off of your roster and get a guy in who wants to win. Wants to compete.
[00:47:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:38] Speaker B: Who can help you compete more than. Than John Gibson can. Sitting as A. As a 50, 50 starter. Backup.
[00:47:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:44] Speaker B: Right.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: I agree. Yeah. I think they could have done more.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: And obviously the Peruns, they suck. Yes. They biggest loser of this trade deadline, I think by far. Yeah.
Specifically, just because you're launching yourself into a rebuild and what the hell are you doing with your trades? They're just random as hell.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's crazy. Like the fall off, how quick their fall off. And the Bruins were. Are. We're a great team for decades, like since the 2000s to. They had a longer lifespan than the Sharks did.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: Absolutely. They were good.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: Not by much, but they did like. And they actually. They have cops that we don't. So.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Yeah, they have one too much.
[00:48:25] Speaker A: Shit.
They only have one.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: Since 2000.
[00:48:29] Speaker B: 2010 or 2010. 2011 against the Canucks when.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: Right.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: Vancouver Riot. That was hilarious.
11 year old me thought that was so funny.
[00:48:41] Speaker A: No, it's. Yeah, it's funny to me now.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Like as a Sharks fan, I hated Vancouver.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that too. Yeah.
[00:48:47] Speaker B: Oh my God.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: That was a year that we lost them, huh? Yeah, yeah, obviously. But we played them. Yeah.
[00:48:53] Speaker B: Gentleman sweep. Kevin Bxa scored no t. Winner. I hate Kevin bxa.
[00:48:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. I think overall, see how much time we got. Okay. All right. I think we talk about the Sharks for a little bit. Yeah. So everyone listening. If you're not a Sharks fan or maybe you want to hear what we have to say, but we're going to cope a little bit with the team that we have right now. But I mean, overall, I really don't think it was that bad of a deadline for Mike Greer. He's had better times, but, you know, I'm going to trust the process.
[00:49:29] Speaker B: The first rounder for Walman is. Is fantastic. Right. He doesn't fit the timeline of the team rebuilding. Right. You have a lot of young defensemen that are probably going to be stepping into this team next couple years. Yep.
That play a very similar role.
Getting a first round pick out of that, whether it's, you know, this year, next year, next year or two years from now, like. Yeah, it's a good, you know, so since Mike Gurg stepped in, we've had two first round picks in four straight drafts.
[00:50:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:06] Speaker B: Which is how you build a solid core.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: Even if all of them don't hit, some of them are hitting. Eklund, Smith celebrating. Clearly.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: Bordelo's kind of.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: Bordelo's fallen off a cliff.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: He's still young too.
[00:50:22] Speaker B: He's still young.
[00:50:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: You have guys. Quinton, must you coming through the system. Sam Dickinson.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: Yeah. They haven't even played in the AHL yet.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. You got a ton of talent graph building that talent pool. Colin Graff we got for free. Yeah.
Then you get another first round pick for next season. Now whether that pick is going to be, you know, 26, 27, 28th overall. Yeah. You don't know.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: No.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: Edmonton could fall Off a cliff, too. They haven't been great this year, but. Yeah, you don't know. But it's still good to have that. Those numbers. Right. You're not going to hit on everyone, so might as well get as many as you possibly can.
[00:51:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Let's see who else got dealt.
Vaynerchuk got dealt for Giles.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that was Giles. Almost. Did he score? No, he didn't score yesterday. No, he almost scored. I saw a clip of him. But, yeah, like Giles was. That was a trade for the Panthers to get their backup goalie.
[00:51:24] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: And by the way, Vaynerchuk had a shutout last night for them, which is. I mean, it makes sense. You have a good defense in front of you. You're probably going to play a lot better. Yeah.
So makes sense. But the other trade, this one will be really quick. Luke cunning for a fourth round selection. 2025 from St. Louis.
[00:51:45] Speaker B: Pretty sure we signed him in free agency.
[00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's just one of those. It's like, here you go.
[00:51:50] Speaker B: He might be competing for a playoff spot or in the playoffs this year. Good for Luke Cunning. And we got a fourth round pick out of it.
[00:51:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: I ain't going to complain.
[00:51:58] Speaker A: No, I'm happy about that.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: The one I'm kind of sad about is Fabian Zetterland. Tristan Robbins and a fourth round pick going to the Senators for Zach Austepachuk. Noah Gregor and a second. Yeah.
That's sad.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:14] Speaker B: Because Zetterland's awesome. But at the same time, Zach ostpachuk is a 21 year old who's been playing in the NHL this year.
He was a. I want to say an early second rounder from two seasons ago.
[00:52:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: Three seasons ago. He was great in the world juniors for Canada. I actually remember him playing 20, 22 and 23.
A great young forward prospect. You get Noah Greger back for that kind of veteran role, filling some sort of a need that the Sharks had because we have an AHL roster outside of the, you know, top six. Yeah.
And you get a second round pick back for Fabian Zetterland.
[00:52:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:57] Speaker B: So I don't see too much of a downside with this trade. It's sad because especially as Sharks fans, we love Fabian Zetterland. He was awesome. He's a character.
[00:53:06] Speaker A: Yeah. William Eklund's best friend, which I. That's like the part for me where I'm like, yeah, a young guy. And like even Warsawski had said, like, it's an emotional day for him. Talk about yesterday at the game or for the game. But I mean, yeah, you lose, but that's hockey. Like it's the NHL. You're not going to.
You can keep around their best friend, but it's like it's business at the end of the day. Yeah. And he'll make more, but still like deep like I do. I feel bad still. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I feel like that trade, from what I've heard, awesome. Chuck is basically a younger Zettalin.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: Similar play style. He's a bigger guy. Which Fabian Zetterland, I saw a clip of him deadlifting 600 pounds.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: Yeah. That guy's Jack Beast.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: Yeah. He's a 511. 220, I remember.
[00:53:58] Speaker B: So I hadn't heard of Fabian Zetterland before we got him as part of the team on Meyer trade.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: Right.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: I had seen a clip from him earlier that season, which was the first time I'd ever heard his name before. And he had a fucking cannon. One timer that he scored. I forget what it was.
[00:54:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: Forget who passed him the puck. But I was just like, damn, that guy's kind of sick. And the Sharks got him and he's been good. Yeah. But at the end of the day, we got another good prospect back and a second round pick.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: But these trade trees and a few years. Steve Dangles trade tree on the Timo Meyer trade in a few years is going to be interesting.
[00:54:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:38] Speaker B: Same thing with Tomas Hurdle trade Eric Carlson there. Carlson. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. But yeah, either way, I'm not that mad about the trade.
[00:54:48] Speaker A: No. And I think maybe could the return have been a little better? Yeah, sure. But like with what Mike Greer's done.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: I, like, I just have to trust the process.
[00:54:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:55:00] Speaker A: And like not every trade's gonna hit. We're not gonna fleece everyone we get.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:04] Speaker A: And maybe, maybe Mike Greer had a little bit of an advantage where people were like, oh, this guy's new. Like we can. Yeah, we can kind of get something out of him. And then it turns into being like, oh, wait, he kind of. He ripped us off.
[00:55:15] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[00:55:16] Speaker A: So now maybe they're a little bit more weary of him.
[00:55:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: Because now he's not, you know, a young GM anymore.
[00:55:23] Speaker B: Yep. Still getting a first rounder out of Wallman's insane.
[00:55:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Getting a first. Yeah. And it's like, it's. It's playing to that desperation of the Edmonton Oilers where it's like, you guys need someone on defense.
[00:55:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Jake Walman's good.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he is good.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: He showed. He's. He also gets Fencement on bad Sharks.
[00:55:40] Speaker A: Yeah. He gets paid $3.4 million a year.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: That's also insane.
[00:55:44] Speaker A: Which is a steal and a half for Edmonton. Like they have cap issues and whether they can keep him or not, I don't know. He's definitely not going to be. He's going to be worth at least 6,7mil a year in this day and age with defenseman.
So. Yeah, I mean, that, that trade, I was really happy with the Zettle one. Yeah. That one probably makes me the most sad just because I enjoyed watching Fabian Setterland. Yeah, he's playing footsie with me under the table, but yeah, I think overall, I mean, like I said, trust the process. Me, Mike has been. Has been amazing, so I'm gonna see it through. And who knows who that second round pick's gonna be this year.
[00:56:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: Never know. We've gotten some good second round picks.
[00:56:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:35] Speaker A: Last year we got some good second round picks. Is it Chernizov or whatever his name is?
[00:56:40] Speaker B: Igor.
[00:56:41] Speaker A: I don't know how to say his name. But yeah. Yeah, he was early second round, supposed to be a first round selection and he fell.
[00:56:47] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: So, yeah, overall, I think it's a good time. I think the Sharks were. I'd give them winter status. They weren't like the biggest winner, but they were definitely. They had a good trade deadline.
[00:57:00] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:57:00] Speaker A: Which is all you can ask for.
[00:57:01] Speaker B: Moves, need to make moves.
[00:57:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:04] Speaker B: You made moves for more picks, prospects, young guys who are going to come in and hopefully make a difference in the next few years.
[00:57:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:11] Speaker B: So I agree.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: But yeah, I think that's pretty much it for the trade deadline with everything.
What else do we have? Oh, Brady Tkachuk's overtime goal the other night was electric. And seeing him play in front of that crowd and you know, the Ottawa Senators have not been good for years.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: Really?
[00:57:32] Speaker A: Since what, Eric Carlson era.
[00:57:34] Speaker B: And even then 2017 was last year. They were good. And they lost their entire team after like three seasons.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:39] Speaker B: It was nuts.
[00:57:40] Speaker A: Did they go to the. I don't think they didn't go to the finals recently. No.
[00:57:44] Speaker B: No, they got beat by. Last time they were in the finals was, I want to say, against the Ducks. No. 7.
[00:57:51] Speaker A: Yes. That's what I was thinking of. And that was almost 20 years ago now.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: Yeah, 2017, they went to the conference finals. Got beat by the Penguins, which. Been there, done that. Sucks.
[00:58:04] Speaker A: Oh, no, but that was in the Stanley cup final.
Yeah, but we have been beaten the conference finals many times. Yes, many times. Too many times.
Yeah. No, I'm excited. This is what's fun now is, like. I mean, there's still gonna be drama, but it's, like, very hockey focused and, like, there's not much trades going on.
Talk. We'll be talking probably Calder race going forward. That's going to keep heating up.
[00:58:33] Speaker B: Crazy stats. They're all within.
[00:58:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:36] Speaker B: Mitch, Kov, Hudson, and celebrating are within two points of each other, I want to say. Yeah. Because Mitch Kova is 47 points. Celebrating is 48. Hudson has 49. Yeah. And Dustin Wolf is still dragging the Flames to a playoff spot. By the skin of his teeth, he looks like Stewie.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: That's what he's doing right now.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: Yeah, he is. And I think maybe next week we can do like, a top five, like our top five rookies and share that. But. Yeah. Anything else?
[00:59:12] Speaker B: I think that's about it.
[00:59:14] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, guys, well, appreciate it. Hit this. Hit the like button. Follow us. Subscribe. Follow us on Instagram so you can see all of our clips. Fun stuff. How does it feel to not be using Minecraft Parkour?
[00:59:31] Speaker B: Well, it was a really tough conversation today to actually pay attention to.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
Well, at least you can look at your phone and see, like, you can use your phone to look at the.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: What's called the trades.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So you got some stimulation scrolling through.
[00:59:48] Speaker B: Reels while we're doing that. Sorry, what'd you say?
[00:59:53] Speaker A: So, but yeah, studio's looking awesome. You guys can see our faces in hd.
[00:59:59] Speaker B: Sorry.
[01:00:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I had to. You know, we need to get, like, a makeup person or something because. Yeah, it's just not.
No, it's the angles. I swear. That's all it is. Yeah, it's a camera angle. Yeah. All right, guys, we will see you next week at a regular scheduled time. This one will probably drop a little earlier just because we're recording this on Sunday today because of the trade deadline and scheduling issues. But it's because of the trade deadline, and honestly, it works out.
But, yeah, we'll see you guys next week, and you have a great rest of your week. And go Sharks.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Go Sharks.
