Episode Transcript
[00:00:10] Speaker A: Welcome back, everybody, to the Goodall Hockey podcast. My name is Sean. I'm alongside Mister David Galley.
We're here getting ready. We're about midway through the second round. We've got some controversy out in Boston that we're going to talk about just the rest of the playoff series, too. We're kind of a weird time right now, just with none of these series being quite over yet. Some three ones, leads we've got. We're recording this on Monday. It's coming out Wednesday. So we're going to be bit behind just with the Rangers and possibly Boston, Florida. We don't know the answer to that. You guys do as a listener. But before we get into that, Galley, how was your weekend? Well, I guess we could both tell the story of the weekend.
Saturday went to the Steelheads game, watch them lose in overtime. But my overdid hit and, you know, can't be too upset about it. But from what I remember of the game, it was a lot of fun towards the end, you know, some of those drinks were flowing a little too heavy, but, yeah. How was the rest of your weekend? Outside of that weekend was good.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: Went to both the steelheads games, four and four and five. They're. They're one of my advertising clients, so get some free tickets for them. But, yeah, it was a good, good weekend. I'm watching two dogs and cat, so.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: I'm getting. It's a handful. There's. It's like a humane society at my house right now, and I live in a pretty small house, so it's been a little bit difficult taking care of that just on my own. My girlfriend's out of town, too. But, yeah, I got pretty loaded on Friday and Saturday night. Didn't end up seeing the northern lights like everyone else did, probably in North America.
Sky could have been on fire and I wouldn't even have known. But, uh, yeah, dude, Saturday was lit. Good little barbecue for a pre game, cracking out my new grill and. Yeah, um, you know, going to the. Go to the game. That was a fun game to go to. And it was a pretty good series. Kansas City is just freaking good, man.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: They look good. Their goal is good, too.
[00:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like going. I mean, that was a different goalie they played in game four. So, I mean, I feel like at the beginning, at the beginning of the season or beginning of the series, they did win. The Steelheads did, which was a little bit surprising for me. But then, yeah, after that, like, games two through five, Kansas City. Just look, lights out and they're dominating the Steelheads at home, which rarely, rarely, rarely happens. I want to say the Steelheads have probably the best home record in the ECHL in the past like five years. I mean, they're, they're usually really good, no matter who the opponent is. But Kansas City's just looking lights out. I mean, it was, it was tough seeing them get out, especially on an overtime goal. I mean, that was something I feel like I don't think I've ever seen in like a, in person is like a playoff series and at home with the losing team at home in overtime. So, yeah, that was definitely pretty crushing. Steelheads had a good season, finished fourth in the league. But yeah, man, once again, just couldn't carry over that success from the regular season of the post season, which they've been struggling with.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: They went to the Kansas City.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: They were first in the league.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Okay, so they just got. This is a bad seating.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, the mountain division is usually pretty good. There's at least one team that's dominant. Last year it was us. The Steelheads had a record breaking regular season. Who knows if it will ever get broken. I mean, they were lights. I want to say. They only had eleven losses throughout the whole season.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: So, yeah, we were kind of that team to beat last year. But this year, Kansas City going into it was probably the best team in the Western Conference. Toledo is probably up there too. Um, but yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if anyone does beat Kansas city going forward. I'd probably predict them at least to go to the final ship. Man, I'm not, I'm not too versed on how the east eastern conference is going in the ECHL, but yeah, yeah, man, it was good season for the Steelheads. Hopefully we can maybe interview some of them on the off season.
[00:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that would be cool. Um, and yeah, for those of you that don't know what we're talking about, if you sound lost, like you just clicked on the wrong video, we're talking about ECHL hockey. Um, but yeah, steelheads last year were insane. And I think it's just tough from what you've explained to me, too, it seems like their goalie carried them or their goalies have carried them the last couple of years, and that just doesn't last in the echo because they get called up when they're that hot.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And especially last year. I mean, I think the, the duo of Remy Poirier and Adam Schiele, which both of them are in the AHL, now was just, like one of the best duos the Steelheads have probably ever had. And, yeah, I mean, to be honest, like, any ECHL team, I mean, those. Both of them were. I mean, Dallas stars, farm teams, goalies were deep enough last year that they didn't get called up too much unless there's an injury. So that was really beneficial. Versus this year. There's definitely some call ups that. That hurt the steelheads big time. So I do feel bad for them on that part. I feel like that really messed with their chemistry, but, I mean, that's. That's how it is with, like, in the UCHL. You got to expect that. I know. Yeah, they do expect that, but it's. It is harder said than done to, you know, put together a really good team, especially of young players. When there's a young player that's good, I mean, they're going to get yanked up, you know?
[00:05:25] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's true. It's a good point.
But enough about some ECHL hockey.
Gonna move on. Before we get into the playoffs, though, I do want to give a quick shout out for the draft lottery. If you guys have not watched that video, the reaction video, it's on our live section of the YouTube channel. You can go see me freak the fuck out about the Sharks getting the first overall pick.
Honestly, I was so in shock if you guys did watch that. I was just in utter shock that it happened. I didn't really know what to say afterwards. I was just. I needed to process it for a minute. Um, but, you know, the Sharks fan this year, we definitely need that. That was a boost in some morale there. Macklin Celebrini is a special player.
He's going to be a joy to watch and good that he's coming back to San Jose. Buzz, you didn't know he, his dad actually is a trainer for the Golden State warriors.
And, yeah, I think it's exciting for that fan base to be.
We've had it rough the past five years. It's been really bad, and we haven't made the playoffs since 2019.
So, you know, I feel like the Sharks. I'll give a little spiel here about the sharks. I haven't been able to talk about them, really all year, so now's my time. But the, honestly, the sharks depth and their youth that they have right now, I'm very excited for, and I think we can see some. There's a bright spot in the future.
It may be three, four years down the line, but it's still there. And as long as everything goes our way and, you know, everyone signs coming out of college, doesn't pull an Adam fox and doesn't want to sign with us, then I think we'll be good. But in Calgary, I know I did throw that in there, but, um, and also, I mean, I think this draft class is going to be special. I think last year was really good.
It makes it seem like this draft class isn't as strong, but it's definitely one of the better ones I've seen the past couple of years. Um, so any team in the top ten is getting a decent, a good player? They're going to be.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: Strong suit on that team.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: No. And I feel like the, the Sharks, they have a very strong, like, prospect corps right now. I mean, I feel like they still have a ways to go. Yeah.
Maybe another year or two before they might be a fringe playoff team. It's going to be interesting to see how. I mean, I'm sure celebrity is going to be in the NHL next year for sure. Will Smith is.
That would be shocking. Will Smith would be shocking if he. If he didn't go to the NHL. I mean, celebrini, in a way, would, too, because they just dominated the NCAA. I mean, what. I mean, I mean, celebrating one, the damn Hobie baker, you know, is going to win another Hobie Baker. Like, I feel like he's already said and done, like, figured it out. Will Smith led the frickin league in points. So it's like, I feel like they should move up.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Hope the Sharks push for them to do that. Just because I feel like it might help their development, too. And it might, you know, it would be sweet to see both of them and see how they do in San Jose.
I still feel like they have to do some work on their d core. Feel like on forwards they're doing pretty good and they also got to get a goaltender. Yeah. It's interesting that celebrity did play for the junior Sharks. I know another very good player for the Flames did, as in Dustin Wolf. So hopefully, hopefully nothing happens there. Hopefully he stays with the Flames.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: But Dustin, I feel like, was more. He played his later years in LA, but he grew up a Sharks fan, but don't even know how that, like, I guess that's just a question we'd have to ask him someday. But just like, how that works with, like, I don't know. I'm not a professional hockey player, but I feel like if I got drafted and, like, how you just, like, switch, like, you know, you grow up watching this one team, like, say for you, for example, you're Calgary Flames die hard fan, and then as you get older, you're 18, you get drafted by the Tampa Bay Lightning. Does that like, I just.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: I don't get it.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: You gotta be a. I mean, once you get drafted by a team, even if it's the freaking, I mean, blue jackets, Anaheim Ducks or blue Jackets, you gotta become the biggest fan of them. You just gotta be fertile like that. Yeah, I know some players do kind of feel that. Probably longer in their career. I really hope Cale Makar feels that because Kayl McCarza, there's pictures of him in flames jerseys and, you know, he was a pretty big flames fan growing up. A lot of players from Calgary. So we'll see if that ends up happening. That would be, that would be delighted if I saw Kale McKarna, Flames jersey. But yeah, no, it's, it's interesting. I feel like most players definitely switch to whatever team they're drafted by. And speaking of that, the Flames are drafted at nine, which they didn't move up. No team moved up, which that hasn't happened since 2010, which was kind of non exciting. I feel like that would have been exciting livestream if we had some sort of movement. Yeah, but yeah, speaking of you, you know, old players, TJ Ginla is on the draft board and I know flames are dying for the Flames to draft him. We'll see if he falls to nine because his draft stocks gone up a lot. But yeah, man, if he, if he gets on the flames, the Flames are going to be. I mean, I mean, I don't think it's going to change the Flames that much, but it's going to create a lot of excitement if, again, what is going to be playing for that organization? Because I think that he goes to the NHL next year, especially if he goes with the flames and they have room for him on their roster. So we'll see how his training camp is if he does get drafted by them.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: I mean, this is all speculation, but I think, I mean, it's, he's God given right to play as a Calgary flame. I feel like. So they got to make it happen if they need to trade up, but, yeah, I'm excited to make it happen. Yeah. And we actually, we have tickets. We're going to be in the sphere for the draft. I know we've said that we're going to be. There. Weren't sure about tickets, but after the draft lottery, they went on sale. We got a good deal.
We're going to be at the sphere, which, honestly, I'm too part excited. I'm excited to be at the draft, but I'm also excited to be at this fear thing because I've always seen it on the Internet, and I don't know, I guess I never really thought I'd ever go to the sphere or, like, be inside of it, and then.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: I'm stoked, too, dude.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: I mean, like. Like a huge dome thing. And, like, I see how there's certain, you know, like, u two had a concert there, and it looked freaking insane, like, out of this world. So it's gonna be interesting to see what they do with the draft. I think it's also, like, we don't have, like, ga seats, like, on the floor or anything.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: Which I think is fine, especially for a draft. And I think it's gonna be really cool still, even from, like, those seats that are a little bit higher up. But, yeah, man, I'm stoked for the draft.
Somewhat stoked to go back to sin City. I've had some good, bad memories there, too, so I think my fifth time going back, damn.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: I've only been there once since 21, and that time was fun. I stayed up as a story for another pod. Maybe in the off season or when we're in Vegas, we can tell around, but it'll be. It's. It's kind of like, it's a work trip for us. So, technically, everything is fine. We're not. We're not going there just to party. We're there to connect and network and get some cool interviews, possibly some street content. We'll see. But.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: With that, we'll talk about that more as it comes closer. But we've got some playoff hockey to talk about, one that's going on right now. Rangers in Carolina. It's game five.
I mean, shoot. One thing I've wanted to say about the Hurricanes and the past, really. Two playoff series, they got swept by the Panthers last year, but game one, they went into, what, like, triple double overtime. Game two again, they lost in overtime. Like, they won. They lost all one of those. Every single one of those games to the Panthers.
They lost those games. So close. It was a one goal game. I want to say every single one of them. And now they're playing the Rangers, who just won the president's trophy in the second round. They're playing them in the second round, and they're getting bit by this, you know, these teams that you can just finish, and maybe. Maybe it is, you know, maybe I shouldn't feel bad for them. They just can't finish. But, you know, I, part of it's, I don't know.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, every single game in the series has been one goal game. I know a lot of people were like, Rangers are going to sweep. It's easy. But like, dude, both, I mean, at least two of those games could have gone the other way. It could be tied right now, too. Or, I mean, who even knows? Carolina even. Game four.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Game four, they won the last couple minutes, right? They scored.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: Like two minutes left.
So even then that could have gone the other way.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: I don't know what it is with Carolina. Carolina, just like they, they always have good teams, they always have talented players, they have good. A great coach and they just like can't figure it out in the playoffs. Like, I don't understand what it is. There's always a team that knocks. I feel like they always are coming across some of the best teams in the playoffs. They either make the Stanley cup final or, you know, they're a ship like the Rangers. I mean, the Rangers are, have only lost one game, all playoffs. Yeah, they're arguably the best team in the playoffs right now. I mean, Igor Shasturkin has been lights out this series, too. I think it's pretty crazy how the whole Madison square Garden is chanting his name. I think that's something really freaking cool. Yeah. But not only that. I mean, I know Biz said this, I, and I agree with him. Like, he's looking like the early con Smite winner, which I think that's pretty crazy to say this early in only round two, but I mean, the Rangers are looking real good and I mean, it's, it's going to come down to, I mean, I would be shocked if Caroline comes back in this series. I mean, we'll see how this game goes tonight. I probably would expect the Rangers to win, but. Yeah, man, like, I just don't know if Boston or Florida are the team to beat them necessarily because, I mean, the Rangers look outstanding, so they do. It's, it's been a pretty good series, though. But, yeah, I mean, just the series three one, it just doesn't show it at least.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So, no, it's true. Like, it looks like it's a dominating performance by the Rangers, but I mean, they've been able to close out, which is the only thing that really matters at the end of the day. Scoreboard says three one on the series. But I mean, honestly, hats off to them for putting this team making, making this series really close. And like I said, it may not look like it, but it is a close series.
And we'll talk about Boston Florida next. But, yeah, I don't really know. You know, I love Florida, but I don't. I'm honestly scared for them. I don't really know how this series is going to go if they do finish it out, if Boston comes back. I mean, the only thing they would have on their side is that they have a great goalie in Jeremy Swaiman.
But if they're doing what they're doing against Florida, which I guess we can kind of transition. Do you have anything else left?
[00:16:24] Speaker B: No, man. I do think that the series is going to end tonight, though, in game five. I would be pretty shocked. And it's zero. Zero. I feel like New York is so good in these low scoring games. Like, they're. They're one of the hardest teams to be in these. These really low scoring games, and I just feel like they're probably going to seal it off. Um, speaking of just watching former Calgary claim Adam Fox shoot, but, yeah, this Panthers, this Panthers Bruin series, man, it's, uh, it's interesting. I think the Panthers are going to finish it out, though.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think that.
I mean, there's a lot to break down here. I'm going to keep it simple at the start, and then we'll go into more of the tinfoil hat stuff. But to begin with, like, I mean, Boston, you guys can say all you want about complaining about the refs and all that shit, but you guys are getting outplayed every single game except for game one. Game one. Like I said last episode, you guys had the benefit of getting striking the iron while it's hot. Now Florida's waking, woken up, and they're dominating you guys no matter how you want to look at it. Yes, those. Some of those goal calls yesterday, penalties, whatever you can say, the refs are fixing it, I don't care. But at the end of the day, you've got 444 shots.
You guys got. Or Florida had 44 shots on goal. You guys had 18. Game three, Florida 33.
You guys 17. Game two, Florida 33, you guys 15. Like, how can you expect. Sure, you can say, oh, it's good goal scoring opportunities, but sue and standing on his head for you guys, you guys can't produce any offense at all because Florida's scoring six. What? Yeah, six two. The last game, two and three. And then yesterday, three two. So I don't know. Boston, you guys got to figure something out. To come back on this team.
I don't. I don't think it's out of the question, but I'm leaning towards Florida. The way they've been playing, they look super, super dominant in the offensive zone. They look like that against the, the lightning and game two and beyond. They've looked the same against the Bruins. I just blame the refs all you want, but they. They're still going to take it on you guys and you can clip that.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know you got some, some beef on Boston, but yeah, I just feel like Florida is on a roll right now.
They're kind of firing on all cylinders. I mean, defensively they're playing great. I mean, when you're holding a team like Boston to that lowest shots, which, I mean, going back to the Rangers and Boston, too, I mean, Boston's another team that plays really good in low scoring games, but a lot of these games have not been low scoring.
Florida's definitely figured out Boston's goal pending, which is interesting.
I know we've talked about it a little bit and we got shit on for it, but.
Yeah, man, it's been a scrappy series, though. I feel like there's a lot of fights in this. Matthew Chuck's always stirring stuff up. Pastor Knox fighting freaking Kacuk, which was legendary, even though he kind of got his ass kicked.
[00:19:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: Whole thing with Marshawn happened where, you know, Sam Bennett, you know, kind of cheap shot at him, but wasn't. Wasn't really released until the day after, which.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah, interesting. It was.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: But yeah, I mean, I guess going to that. What's. What's your take on the whole Sam Bennett situation?
[00:19:47] Speaker A: I think for, you know, the little sucker punch on Brad Marsha. And yes, it was cheap, but it's hockey. I'm sorry. Like, you're going to get away with certain things and I know department of player safety probably fumbled the bag a little bit on that, but at the same time, like, it's playoff hockey. And, you know, the whole. We've talked about this before with, you know, fighting and the policing there is in hockey. Pat Maroon needs to go out there and take Sam Bennett's head off. That's the only, like, in this game, obviously, legally, you don't want to just go out there and you're going to get in trouble for that. But, like, this game is built off policing and, you know, if people are going to get away with stupid shit like that, I don't think the right way to do it is to come back and, you know, be punching Matthew Kachuk in the head or doing shit like that. The way to send a message is to fucking win. But you guys can't do that. You guys can't. Like, I just. I don't get it. There's so many times where they're complaining about this and that and this and that. It's like, go win. Go win a game. You won game one. You can do it again. But they just can't. They're just gonna. You know, all the Boston fans are probably gonna come at me for this video. I don't really care. But it's really frustrating, because all they do is complain, and complaining. That's what Boston is as a whole Boston. All they do is complain, and it's fucking, dude.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: I mean, I'm a patriots fan, and holy shit, the fan base is toxic. But, yeah, man. I mean, Sam Bennett and Kachuk. Kachuk has always been a pest, probably the biggest pest in the league. Um, it's interesting Marshawn got knocked out, though.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Um, yeah.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: You know, I feel like he's.
I mean, I don't know. It sounds like he got hurt pretty injured or he got pretty injured by that hit. But Sam Bennett's interesting. I mean, I've. I've watched both Kaczuk and Sam Bennett throughout their whole career. Kachuk has been a shithead since day one, but it's, you know, apparent to everyone. Sam Bennett kind of had to step into a grinder roll with the flames. Cause, I mean, when he got drafted, when he got drafted, he was the number one draft prospect of that draft, but he couldn't register a freaking pull up at the draft combine, and his draft stock fell so hard, the flames drafted him, I think, fourth overall, highest draft pick by the flames, by the way. But, you know, he wasn't really all that in terms of skill like people thought he was going to be. So he kind of took this grinder role, and, dude, he had some gnarly scrap, scraps with the flames, kind of some dirty. He got away with some things with the flames. He's getting away with stuff on the panthers, too.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: So, I mean, nothing. Nothing's changed but having that one two punch. Bennett and Kachuk, I'm sure they're pretty good buds, too, after playing up in Calgary, but, yeah, I mean. I mean, I think, you know, with that whole hit situation, it's hard for fans to be calling that out just because I think, more or less, it's. I don't know if it's on the league or ESPN or who is on to not be showing the full replays when it happens.
But, yeah, I mean, it was a dirty hit. You're right. It's a playoffs. Shit's gonna happen like that. But, yeah, it's just gonna be how they respond. And I know Pat Maroon, a lot of people are pointing. It's crazy. Like, the fan base and media is pointing fingers at Pat Maroon to do something which is like.
I mean, I guess that's his. That's his job, in a way. But someone else step up from the fucking bruins, you know, it shouldn't just be job, which is like, what, a kachak, too?
[00:23:08] Speaker A: That's like.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: I feel like that's pretty. Pretty damn scary for pasta to do that. I mean.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: When I saw that all happen, I was like, what's going on? Like, I love when. I love when two start, like, superstars fight. It's the best shit ever. But, yeah, man, I think Florida is going to close us out, though.
It would be crazy if Boston came back, but, yeah. Sorry, Boston, I just don't think this is your year.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: No. What do you think about that? That goal call the. Did you watch that? The possible goal? Tender interference.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: No. So I didn't. I didn't see what that was all about. Yeah.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: So it's very hit or miss. I am conflicted. I texted my friend, who's a ref, asked him what he thought, and I've also asked other biased people. I've tried to get my. I have a clear bias against Boston. So my initial thought was playoff hockey. Bennett was, you know, I can pull it up, actually. But, um, my initial reaction was just that he's trying to create space, gives a little shove, and if you want to call what he did is a cross check in the playoffs, you're crazy. You're not going to call that shit. That's not something that you call in the playoffs for a little shove on the back of the back of the numbers. He didn't go and, like, do that. It was a simple little move out of the way, takes a shot. Now, he pushed Charlie coil into Jeremy Swamon.
And initially, when you look at it, you're like, okay, that's probably goal ton interference, but on the rulebook, and I'm not saying I disagree or agree with this, but this is just what they're. What the league said on why they called it a good goal was because Jeremy Swamin was in no position to make that save in the first place. So there's no point in calling it back saying, oh, it's no goal because he shoved him. And Charlie Coil is already moving forward. He gets a little extra shove and falls into Swayman. But Swayman's way out of position, he probably was not going to make that save. Now, I don't know that the league has the right to say that and say that he had no opportunity or wasn't in the right position to make that save because he's. Jeremy swam and he very well could have.
But again, to blame the refs on all this, I don't know. I just. You can't act like you're getting your ass kicked by this team. And then it's tough, though. It's game four. That if. Because that was a game time goal, if Florida didn't score that this series could potentially be tied right now. And now Florida's up three one. So I understand the frustration.
[00:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: But at the same time, go do something on offense, like floor. Every game I've watched, Florida looks like the better team in offensive zone especially. They can't. Bruins can't get the puck out of the zone. Florida is great at their four. Check that. They do.
They're also good at moving the puck around to get good shots, and that's what they've been doing, and it works for them. So, you know, at the end of the day, the best revenge you could get is a win. And I don't think they should stoop down to playing like Florida does with. You're not going to beat Florida at that. That's what they do. They're little rats. It's like, it's in the name. It's in the mascot. They're little rats. And if you're going to play them at that game, ten times out of ten, you're going to lose.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: So, yeah, I love. I love them throwing the rats on the ice. It's funny shit.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: But even in Austin, too, I would be afraid to be throwing a rat on the ice in Boston.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: I would be afraid someone's going to kill me.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: I know. I went to the, when I went to the Vegas and Stars game in the western Conference finals last year, it was in Vegas, game five, and I was tempted to bring a rat with me and throw it on the ice, but I was, again, scared because I thought it would have been funny, would have made it on tv. A rat in a complete different series. But, yeah, I was a little scared of that. So those people that threw in Boston, a rat on the ice. Yeah. Ballsy guys. But enough about that. Stars and abs. Uh, game four, is tonight. We don't know the, the answer to that game yet. Um, I don't know. What are your thoughts on this series?
[00:27:17] Speaker B: I mean, it's been a pretty close series. The abs have been. Look, I mean, the abs, at least last game looked a little bit flat to me. Didn't bring too much energy, like, throughout the whole game. And on top of that, odd, you're just played real good. So I think that was the only game that was kind of not blowout. I mean, it's four to one, but, you know, somewhat dominance by Dallas. I mean, I was, we were both at end zone for. It was interesting to see end zones kind of a Colorado avalanche bar now. And, yeah, I saw a lot of abs fans not, not so happy, but, you know, that makes my heart happy because, you know, I've gone in there a lot of times with flame stuff and people are like, oh, fuck that, the flames. Like, I'm an absent. All this shit. There's some beef between flames and absence for some reason, but, yeah, I don't know what it is.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Why is that?
[00:28:06] Speaker B: I don't know what it is, but.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: I've always been separate conferences.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: Maybe it's just that I know we've played each other in the playoffs once or twice the past ten years, and the series weren't anything special in my mind, but, yeah, I mean, I feel like this is kind of a do or die game for, for Colorado. I mean, you don't want to go back to Dallas down three one, and it's going to be a good game tonight. I mean, I. I kind of think that it's going to be high scoring from both ends. Um, but something that I noticed, too with the stars is there's not really, like, one player carrying them necessarily on your probably out of anyone. He's going to have any great fucking, like, playoffs, too. I think he has nine points leading the team, team in points. But, yeah, man. I mean, there's even point distribution around, you know, with Dallas right now. And, um, you know, it's going to be going to be interesting, tonight's game, to see how things go down. I mean, the Avs are going to be putting it on. Like I'm expecting that. Like they're. Yeah, I think it's either going to be a high scoring game or the abs are going to take it and probably blow their team over goals. Speaking of betting.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Which we'll get into in the next one, but, yeah.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: What's your take on this series?
[00:29:25] Speaker A: Yeah, this series. Um, I think I had voted for the stars because I have them in my bracket. But, um, I mean, I think Ottinger is playing great and it's so hard with the playoffs when you have, except for Boston, when you have a goalie that's standing on your head like you have all the edge in the world. And it's not that Georgiev isn't a great goalie, but he's just not up to the level of Ottinger. And, you know, if Audrey can keep this going, I think it's going to carry them far.
I feel like out of the west, these two teams are the best. I, no offense to Vancouver, Edmonton, but I think the stars and the abs are the two best out of the west if you want to be rhyming. But, um. And I think Vancouver, Edmonton, I mean, who. I think whoever wins this series, stars and avs goes on to the Stanley cup final.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I think Vancouver, they have a case. Yeah. I hope Vancouver wins. I don't think Edmonton, Edmonton's frauds. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see about all that. But I do think that they're somewhat frauds in the playoff this year. But, yeah, I just feel like stars and Vin, Stars and Canucks is going to be a good conference final if that happens. But yeah, man, the stars and abs, whoever wins this is going to be, I think, the best team in the west, like you said.
But yeah, I mean, it's going to be interesting what goes down game four tonight. Everyone listening is going to know what happened, but I'm very curious. I'm on edge about it.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I am too.
Then, honestly, like, I don't know if we said this last episode, I know I've said this multiple times to different people, but again, everyone on this list here deserves to be where they're at. I think that maybe Edmonton, you could give slack to. I mean, they played the king, so it's not like they really had too difficult of a road. No offense to all the king, actually, full offense to all the king fans out there, but I don't know, Edmonton, not that they don't deserve it, but everyone else outside of Edmonton no doubt deserves to be in the spot that they're in right now, at least in the west.
What about the east? You don't think anyone deserves to be there?
[00:31:41] Speaker B: I mean, fucking what? Rangers play the damn capitals.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: I mean, but they won the president's trophy. Of course we're gonna be in the second round.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: That's.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: I just feel like I mean, the Kings are a little bit better than the, the Capitals barely made it in.
[00:31:58] Speaker A: But I'm not saying even the islanders, I'm not saying about matchup. I'm just saying, like, throughout the season that they had, like, Vancouver had a great regular season. Edmonton, honestly, I mean, Edmonton did have a better second half to the season and big time. It's not to say, I'm not saying the Edmonton, I don't know what I'm saying, really. I guess.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: Fuck.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: But you know what I mean? Everyone here has done their work to get to this point in the playoffs. And honestly, all these teams, I don't really have anyone that I wouldn't think could possibly. Rangers are fucking good. I don't know if. I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. But what I do know is that this Vancouver Edmonton series is pretty good. So last night, I mean, it's been back and forth this whole series. I want to say it took, but it was like, back. Yeah, it's been back and forth. Um, all one goal games. All three games. Um, and I don't know, I feel like we're just starting to get into the nitty gritty of this series. It's been toss it back and forth.
JT or Brock Besser last night with the hat trick on game on Sunday and game three in the first period, too, which is crazy. And a natural hat trick. All three goals in a row in the first period is just wild.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: But definitely explain to the listeners a little bit about this parlay that we cooked up or actually our listeners cooked up. It's not even our fault.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So shout out the public. This is a, we, we're going to be doing some fan parlays for the people decided by the people. Um, before the. We did a four leg. Yeah, we did a four leg parlay. Um, we can maybe do a five leg next time, increase the odds a little bit. But we did have total goals over under six and a half. Connor McDavid under over one and a half points, silovs over under 26 and a half saves, and then JT Miller over under 2.5 shots. So we had everyone vote on our Instagram story. So every weekend we're going to be doing this for, for at least one of the games in this, in one of these series. This was the game that I just had a feeling was going to go well.
So we picked over, over six and a half goals, smashed easily. I mean, actually, you know what? That was somewhat close. It looked really good in the first period.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: But I think that it was four two with, like, a couple minutes left. They barely scored that empty netter, or, pardon me, they barely scored that last minute goal, which made it hit, um, under for Connor McDavid. Somehow that hit, I pretty surprised he didn't even score a point, which that odds would have been insane. So that hit then we had suaves. Had a great game. 41 save. Game stood on his head. I mean, he's. He's looking fucking excellent, too. I mean, speaking of Shasturkin, playing good still. Oz is playing good. I mean, to do that against the Oilers and the two highest scoring players in the playoffs right now, you know, Artur Silovs. I mean, he's putting Latvia on his back. He's putting Latvia on the map. I mean, what a fucking beauty, man. I mean, I'm sure the Canucks are stoked on that. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens if Demko comes back. Who they're gonna go with. Like, I feel like you gotta go with Silas. If he's gonna be hot, you gotta go with him. Like, yeah, but, yeah, going. Going back to the parlay. Sorry. So we're at our third leg right now. All three of those hit. Then we had JT Miller over 2.5 shots. He had two shots, I think, going into the third period. So I'm like, please, just get it. Just get one shot. One shot. Okay. Didn't end up getting the shot. He was on the ice with, like, 1 minute left, and he has this sick shot from his own zone all the way down the ice. All right? And I'm sure people saw this all the way down the ice, hits the post, which does not count as a shot, which some people probably don't know, but, yeah, that doesn't count as a shot on goal, even though it's the post, which NHL changed that shit.
But, yeah, we ended up not hitting the parlay because JT Miller didn't score that. Full ice, empty net, goal, game of inches.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: Game of.
[00:36:11] Speaker B: Yeah, man, it was. That was heartbreaking. Cause that was a plus 2100 odds parlay, which is pretty fucking crazy. If feel like if we would have hit that, we would have had some. A little bit of street cred in the sports betting community. Yeah, we've been tough. Tough fucking blow. That was our closest one all season. And, of course, it came down to that. I mean, that was heartbreaking, man. But, yeah, man, it was. It was a. It was a good parlay. We're going to be stoked for the next one. Hopefully we hit it.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I know we've been. We started off at the beginning of the season, we were doing like, six legs and people were like, oh, my gosh, you didn't hit. And I'm like, yeah, because it's six legs of a parlay. Like, then we turned it down to four, and we've gotten pretty close. That is the closest yes we've ever been.
I think the only win we've ever had that we've done publicly was the over six and a half steelheads game, which ended in beautiful. Not beautiful fashion, but it was just prime, prime, prime. Way to end an over six and a half.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: You get three plus three equals seven.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: Always seven, baby. Always steal heads or no. I think the score is three two. All we needed was a steelhead goal, and that over was going to hit for sure.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Yeah, three plus three equals seven. At Tate McCray, dude.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: Yeah, at tamara, too. Yeah, I forgot I did that. That was not me talking. That was the liquor talking. But, um, yeah, that Vancouver game was very interesting. All these games have been good. I think this series, it's hard. Tough to say, but I feel like this might go to seven. I feel like out of all these.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: I mean, come swinging back, McDavid goes pointless. I mean, I'd fucking hammer McDavid over one and a half points next game. I feel like he's going to be going hard in the paint. It's still crazy to me. I mean, he goes pointless one game and he's still second place in playoff points right now with trice total head. Speaking of dry sidel, the shit he said at the end of the game with posts aren't good. Goal pending about silobs is ridiculous. I don't know if you saw that, but there was an interview with Dry Seidel.
Yeah, fucking, he came out and was just. I mean, they were, they were like, how, what do you think about this? 23 year olds, you know, plays and saves and whatnot, and posts aren't, aren't good goaltending, which I think that's kind of snotty to say, and it might bite him in the ass, unfortunately.
I'm sure dry, dry statel is probably gonna get booed when he goes back to Vancouver for that, that comment.
But, yeah, man. I mean, what do you say, though, if you're on the opposing team, and especially after a loss?
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: What are you gonna say about that? But, I mean, not surprised that's coming from Dre's title. There's a lot of frustration in Edmonton right now, I think. Oh, yeah, they've been, that they're, they're a good team and every year and like, it's like, oh, is like the, or the Oilers going to choke and they are looking towards trending to choke right now. I might eat my words if this swings back Edmonton's way, but they are looking like they are not as strong as a team, as one Vancouver. But, you know, they're lacking in the goal pending department, especially, which I think that's, we talked about that all season, so might end up biting them in the ass and getting them knocked out.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: I think it will. I mean, I have too much sympathy for some of these teams, man. But I mean, Edmond, there's definitely a lot of frustration in Edmonton, and I think it's not just this year. It's been a culminating of the past, honestly, three seasons to go to the Western Conference final, play the Avalanche, they go on to win the cup, then you play the Knights and in the second round last year, and then they go on and win the cup. So, I mean, I'm not saying Vancouver is going to win the cup this year, but if it's the Edmonton luck, maybe it's a thing. Like I said, one Vancouver wins a.
[00:40:11] Speaker B: Cup, that'd be crazy.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Twice is coincidence. Three times as a pattern. So if Vancouver wins, all you got to do is play Edmonton and beat them in the Stanley cup finals and you got yourself a ring. But yeah, the real, I mean, there's a lot of frustration there, and I think we've been pointing fingers at the goaltender this entire time, Stuart Skinner, and he has not played where he needs to be playing in playoff hockey.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Lisa, series.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty good last series, but. Yeah. Yeah, but against Vancouver, you just can't do that. And Vancouver is a good team.
But I mean, seriously, looking at all these, it's it's tough to say who, who's going to take this, this, this ring right now. The Rangers look pretty dominant, but again, Carolina is right, right there with them. They're just not able to finish. So it's tough. It's really tough.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: I'd say the favorites are probably the Rangers right now. Yeah.
And like we said, the stars and abs, that series, I feel like that's also another series. Whoever wins that is going to, they're going to look really good, too. I think it's kind of between those two teams. I hope I'm really pulling for Vancouver. That would be fucking awesome. I really enjoy watching, like, Sidorov and both Lindholm I mean, those are former flames. Zidorov is running shit, man. I mean, he. I thought it was pretty funny, too. He said there's nothing good in Edmonton except for watching hockey, which I fully agree with. Edmonton is not a very good city to hang out, and I've done some time up there and it's. It's a big city, but there's just. There's no shit. I mean, especially compared to Calgary. I know.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:50] Speaker B: Everyone knows I love Calgary, but Calgary is just so much better, man. I mean, when it comes to the nightlife, restaurants, things to do, I think the only thing Edmonton might have is their. Their arena is a little bit nicer for right now. We're getting a new one, a few years, so.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: Cool. All right, well, yeah, I mean, let us know in the comments what you guys think about all these series. Who you think is going to take it? Who's opened your eyes a little bit? Who's disappointed you this round? Um, I mean, I think the biggest disappointment for me is Boston. I thought they were going to put up more of a fight in the past, at least. Game. Game two and game three, it just looked like, yeah, it was on a different level compared to them. Game four, call what you want, blame the refs, whatever, I don't care. Um, but I thought 40, 118. Yeah. Outshot 41 to 18, which again, like, this is. I'm going to go off on Boston again. This is what annoys me is because I see that and it's like, yeah, 41 to 18. Then they're like, well, yeah, because they got all these penalties call on them. So they're always on the power play. It's like, well, then have a better penalty kill because stop taking penalties. Like, there's so many ways you can combat that. And regardless, there's no way you get 18 shots on goal. And it's not just game four. That's the thing, too. It was game three and game two. You guys had 1517 and 18 shots on goal. It's not the rest fault. It's your fault. Figure it out. But with that, I think that's my end on Boston. I hope I don't have to speak about them again, and I hope this series is over on Tuesday. So when this episode's out, we'll see. But that being said, thank you guys for listening. Make sure you go follow us on Instagram so you can be a part of next week's parlay and vote on that. Hopefully when I. Yeah, post us on your story. If you ride with us let us know if you're gonna be, you know, riding that coattail with us. We probably have to prove ourselves first and actually get a bet first, but it's fun, you know, we're playing all together as a team, basically for this bet stuff. Um. Oh, yeah, we ride on those votes. Those votes are important to see what we think, what the masses think, and that's what we're going to go for. So, gal, you have any last thoughts?
[00:44:10] Speaker B: No. Shout out, everyone, for almost. That was the golden ticket, man. I thought we were going to hit that and I was stoked, but, uh, JT Miller just freaking didn't get three shots, but, uh, yeah, man, got a three v three hockey starting back up for me. I got to get tonight at 745. So stoked on getting back on the ice tonight and.
Yeah, man, thanks. Thanks for everyone, you know, interacting with us. I know we've gained some following our podcast in specific, so shout out all our fans and, yeah, that's, that's about it. Love you guys.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: Yeah, we love you guys. And we'll see you guys next week. And I have a feeling it could be on to round three next episode, maybe a game seven that we're going to be reacting to. But with that, we'll leave you guys with a thought of the day.
Let us know in the comments who you think is going to win the Stanley cup out of what you've seen out of them. I know it's bold, it's a little too early, but who's your favorite? Let us know. It's a requirement. You have to let us know. I'll hold you to gunpoint on that, but other than that, guys, like Gary said, thank you for listening and we'll see you guys next week.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: Peace. Peace.
